Damn on top of making multiple remakes and another pointless game "Christina". Sucks to be a patreon of his if he really does away with all tiers making everyone pay the same amount so he can make more money... LMAO once again proving the point of only doing it for the money and will change content based on that. Mind you no more 1$ tier everyone paying 8$.
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For all we know, Christina will end up being a much better game than TAC. It is almost certain to be better received and at the moment is free of the baggage that is weighing down this project. I've never seen a game played so much by people who seem to reject its entire premise and reason for existing.
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Because there was a mod for the earlier versions that made much more sense plot wise.
Going from weirdo to weirdo and the dialogues being cringier than rape and murder series,
it quickily devolved into watching another NTR mindless whore parody, throw plot outta here.
As explained before, we have mods for the early versions and them mods mend the plot.
Without the plot, we get helpless window watching the trainwreck of mindless promiscuity.
Still, as the protagonists both lived together and talked of a plot never actually acted on
in any meaningful way, as every time tension sparked, another deluge of mindless promiscuity
would come and sweep what little plot and tension had managed to come to the forefront.
Example: MC and his dad compete for girls - Dev made it almost guaranteed Ann resolved
the whole tension by giving in to the dad at the drop of the hat - plot and tension be damned.
Luckily for us, there is this mod that made it somewhat coherent MC could fight back
and Ann would hold on to the plot, making the whole thing actually worth while.
Of course, some players got hooked on the no plot no reason wagon and all that.
For actual gamers, there is the mod.
Going from weirdo to weirdo and the dialogues being cringier than rape and murder series,
it quickily devolved into watching another NTR mindless whore parody, throw plot outta here.
As explained before, we have mods for the early versions and them mods mend the plot.
Without the plot, we get helpless window watching the trainwreck of mindless promiscuity.
Still, as the protagonists both lived together and talked of a plot never actually acted on
in any meaningful way, as every time tension sparked, another deluge of mindless promiscuity
would come and sweep what little plot and tension had managed to come to the forefront.
Example: MC and his dad compete for girls - Dev made it almost guaranteed Ann resolved
the whole tension by giving in to the dad at the drop of the hat - plot and tension be damned.
Luckily for us, there is this mod that made it somewhat coherent MC could fight back
and Ann would hold on to the plot, making the whole thing actually worth while.
Of course, some players got hooked on the no plot no reason wagon and all that.
For actual gamers, there is the mod.
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Probably one of my biggest narrative gripes, when a game's writing is just 95~99% dialogue, with the thoughts and inner lives of the characters never being explored.
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Couldn't agree more. The eroticism which is completely lacking in most of the games on this site originates from the minds of the characters then blooms in how and when they verbalize those thoughts. Without communicating the workings of the mind all we have is reporting. Someone arrives on the scene, describes what has/is happening and then leaves until the next newsworthy occurrence. That, then, leads to a lack of depth and connection.
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Honestly? Adopting a deuteragonist setup I think could do wonders for the narrative.
Too bad that's just a pipe dream. The one thing that might have made a 3rd reboot worthwhile would be a narrative rework, and given how slavish this release has been to the original (same 'tell, don't show' story telling, same wooden characters, same cringe dialogue), there's zero reason to think anything like that is going to happen.
Can someone with some actual writing chops do an intervention here? Abduct the titular couple, and write a much better story around the original premise, please?
Too much internal dialogue, which happens in a lot of the games sorely lacking in sex scenes (ie AWAM) is boring.
There was a spicy mod that tried to improve the story, but from what I remember, the Dev asked the mod to stop? Can't remember off the top of my head, but the mod made Anne think mean thoughts about her hubby while she's getting nailed by her stud of the hour.
Wish I knew what happened to that, it brought some life to the story and closer to real life thoughts of what once was a loyal loving wife turned whore by her husband.
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I mean, if you want to lean into the cheating/netorare aspect over the sharing, that is absolutely the way to go. Being exposed to Anne's inner thoughts and dialogue in order to give an audience a peek at the things her husband can't know? If done well, that's super hot. The slow, but ultimately willing, turn to corruption and falling from grace of the primary female love interest is one of my all time favorite kinks (and it is also exceedingly rare). All too often we get turbosluts who instantly cave with zero tension for the express purpose of feeding into the cucking of the MC rather than exploring the debauchery of the love interest. For me, cuckoldry isn't fun. But cheating and corruption, the taboo of doing and getting off to things they know they shouldn't? That's lots of fun.
There's a good premise with a mediocre setup here, that is unfortunately being lost to cringe writing, a nonsensical plot with too many disposable characters, and now the umpteenth reboot. Again, we need a creative intervention to rescue Anne and place her sexy ass in a game with much better writing and a more focused plot, allowing her to slowly explore her latent exhibitionism; with the possibility of giving into temptation and crossing over the line from an open consensual relationship into one of cheating, lies, and ever increasing self gratification.
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I've said it before: this is a female protag game in which the majority of the narrative is mistakenly given to a male character. Tony is the least interesting person here. It would be so much better if we were privy to more of Anne's thoughts and desires instead of his simple-minded "ya babe, fuck him" BS.
Think about the first Martin scene (in the bathroom). The MC is given a set of choices: to keep Martin out of the shower, to let him in (but no sex), or to let him have sex with Anne. The latter two choices make absolutely no sense in a story in which Martin already stole his son's girlfriend with the power of his giant schlong. Many, perhaps most, players will go ahead and send him in there anyway, because that's the kind of game it is, but even for a guy with an out of control cuckolding fetish, there's one and only one answer he could rationally give.
Now, reconsider that scene if we're in Anne's head, rather than Tony's. Her husband tells Martin to stay out of the shower, and he does, but she can see that huge dick right there, and she's intrigued. Depending on what she's done, how far Tony's pushed her, how corrupted she is, she might just slip out of bed later that night and crawl into Martin's. A choice she makes, because there's actually a justification for her wanting to fuck him. That reason doesn't exist from Tony's POV. After which all her sneaking around behind her husband's back to bang his dad makes a lot more sense, because now she's addicted.
The same goes for the Dre scene in their apartment. If Tony joins them, she says later that she wishes he hadn't. Nothing at all comes of this, because Tony's an idiot and he doesn't actually care much about what Anne does or doesn't want. Wouldn't that scene be better if Anne was in bed, thinking to herself that she wishes Tony had left her and Dre alone, and plotting to make that happen at some point?
Again: with Ryan, she can cheat on her husband, but the game's ridiculous about setting it up, because the perspective is wrong. Tony has to send Ryan home, and then he has to leave the bar himself. In other words, Tony has to take two actions to make her cheat on him; if he doesn't do those things, there's no way to know whether or not Anne and Ryan fucked. How does that make sense? Ryan should leave the bar for "reasons," Anne should decide that she wants to fuck him, and Tony shouldn't find out until later...and I don't mean the next morning. We can still see the scene if we're playing from Anne's POV, but now there's actual narrative intrigue; we know she's cheated, we can learn why she's cheated, and now that's something she and her husband are going to have to deal with. As it stands, they have a lame breakfast confrontation in which Tony whines that she did something he's not only been begging her to do, but in which he specifically set up the conditions for her to do it. And now he's upset, for about a minute, because she hid it from him. Wouldn't it be so much better if she hid it from him for a long time? If, a few weeks down the road, he was forced to confront the fact that Anne's not really doing this for the sake of his fetish anymore?
I realize why devs don't write female protag games, but this one should be. Or at least dual protag.
Think about the first Martin scene (in the bathroom). The MC is given a set of choices: to keep Martin out of the shower, to let him in (but no sex), or to let him have sex with Anne. The latter two choices make absolutely no sense in a story in which Martin already stole his son's girlfriend with the power of his giant schlong. Many, perhaps most, players will go ahead and send him in there anyway, because that's the kind of game it is, but even for a guy with an out of control cuckolding fetish, there's one and only one answer he could rationally give.
Now, reconsider that scene if we're in Anne's head, rather than Tony's. Her husband tells Martin to stay out of the shower, and he does, but she can see that huge dick right there, and she's intrigued. Depending on what she's done, how far Tony's pushed her, how corrupted she is, she might just slip out of bed later that night and crawl into Martin's. A choice she makes, because there's actually a justification for her wanting to fuck him. That reason doesn't exist from Tony's POV. After which all her sneaking around behind her husband's back to bang his dad makes a lot more sense, because now she's addicted.
The same goes for the Dre scene in their apartment. If Tony joins them, she says later that she wishes he hadn't. Nothing at all comes of this, because Tony's an idiot and he doesn't actually care much about what Anne does or doesn't want. Wouldn't that scene be better if Anne was in bed, thinking to herself that she wishes Tony had left her and Dre alone, and plotting to make that happen at some point?
Again: with Ryan, she can cheat on her husband, but the game's ridiculous about setting it up, because the perspective is wrong. Tony has to send Ryan home, and then he has to leave the bar himself. In other words, Tony has to take two actions to make her cheat on him; if he doesn't do those things, there's no way to know whether or not Anne and Ryan fucked. How does that make sense? Ryan should leave the bar for "reasons," Anne should decide that she wants to fuck him, and Tony shouldn't find out until later...and I don't mean the next morning. We can still see the scene if we're playing from Anne's POV, but now there's actual narrative intrigue; we know she's cheated, we can learn why she's cheated, and now that's something she and her husband are going to have to deal with. As it stands, they have a lame breakfast confrontation in which Tony whines that she did something he's not only been begging her to do, but in which he specifically set up the conditions for her to do it. And now he's upset, for about a minute, because she hid it from him. Wouldn't it be so much better if she hid it from him for a long time? If, a few weeks down the road, he was forced to confront the fact that Anne's not really doing this for the sake of his fetish anymore?
I realize why devs don't write female protag games, but this one should be. Or at least dual protag.
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I'm pretty sure you just gave that scenario more thought than the dev ever did.
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The other reason the game shouldn't be told exclusively from Tony's POV is that he doesn't actually care what Anne wants. His thinking never evolves beyond the initial idea: that it would be hot for her to have sex with other people and let him watch/tell him about it. In the beginning, he pushes and pushes and pushes (despite her reluctance) until she finally starts giving in. Once she goes all the way, he simply expects it of her. He gets less and less involved with her activities as the story goes on, and a large percentage of the ideas and adventures are actually initiated by Anne. Meanwhile, he's doing all sorts of things he shouldn't — having sex with masseuses, waitresses, his ex, coworkers she specifically asked him not to have sex with, her best friend without clearing it in advance (even though she's okay with it), and so forth — and usually not even bothering to lie about it; he just doesn't tell her.
The story stops being about Tony's cuckold fetish pretty early on; most of what's happening on the screen is strictly for the players' enjoyment, which is one of the many ways the story went off the rails. But someone does have reasons for what they're doing or not doing, and that's Anne. Which is why we should be in her head, not her husband's. Especially because he's a moron.
The story stops being about Tony's cuckold fetish pretty early on; most of what's happening on the screen is strictly for the players' enjoyment, which is one of the many ways the story went off the rails. But someone does have reasons for what they're doing or not doing, and that's Anne. Which is why we should be in her head, not her husband's. Especially because he's a moron.
I mean they're both pretty vapid, it's not like anne really cares about his wishes; I remember playing it the first time and chuckling when you dont wanna go to the shoe store and you go anyway, or you turn down the first vacation waiter and she gets all butthurt.
Face it, both characters are kiddie-pool-deep, and that's not always a bad thing, this is a porn game after all..
Nothing that either of them does indicates to me they actually care about one another, but until nothing is forever or life worth living releases an update, I have to post here
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Anne hesitates at the beginning of the game, but it is Tony who manipulates her and pushes her into the arms of other guys. He created the monster slut Turbo Anne who fucks everything that is out of his control. And then Tony goes sideways. For me it was hopeless because they stopped working as a couple. Tony the idiot has been outsmarted by Martin twice, of course it all depends on our choices. Tony should say you stole my girlfriend, just try to steal my wife and I'll kill you.
I'm liking the amount of respectful constructive criticism in this thread lately.
By the time all the events you mention happen, Anne and Tony are in an open relationship, so it can't be cheating. Anne has a free pass to have sex with whoever she wants, and she doesn't need to tell Tony about them if she doesn't feel like it, and vice versa he is able to do the same with other women. We know this because Tony himself has sex with various women and never tells Anne about them. This suggests there is an unspoken agreement between the two of them, to only tell each other about their individual sexual encounters if they want to.
If what you said was correct, then both Tony and Anne would get extremely upset when they found out about the other person's sexual encounters, and yet the only time that happened was when Tony found out about Anne having sex with Martin. On every other occasion, both Tony and Anne pretty much accepted the revelation calmly and without any indication that they considered the other person to have cheated. That may be your interpretation, but it's not how Tony or Anne view it.
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Regardless of the merits or faults of this game. What I don't understand is the need for yet another revamp. It seems to me, that the Dev doesn't have any longterm plan for this game, which is maybe why he keeps falling back to revamps of older content? Why not end the game first, and then revamp it when it's completed? He could probably end it, in a few more updates if he really wanted to. At the present rate of ten days per update, it's going to take another 9 updates at least, to get up to date. Which probably means 2 years without any continuation of the game. I can't imagine any of his patrons are that interested in another revamp, that they're willing to wait two years to get further progress in the game?
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This leads again in a nonsense in the storyline... Martin appearas in the CH9 Tony invited Martin to go in the bathroom
Martin appears at the end of the chapter 7 and Anne and Tony are on the "same page"
Anne has already had sex with about 10 men and she in many cases most of the time she decides who she wants to have sex with.
but she is not forced to tell tony everything... there are options where Tony can choose not to let Anne tell about what she did.
It seems to me that you want to tell Mircom the same things that led him to the decision to write the original story of this legendary couple...
I'm not sure but I'm afraid you will be disappointed again with Tacos
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I'm not surprised that the topic of Martin always comes up.
You show up here. I ask the developer a question and I know I'm going to like Tacos. I have to post my questions here and his answers.
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It think the calm acceptance is less an active considered choice by the author to depict two adult well fleshed out characters trying to make an open relationship work, and more so that actually having either of them respond in anger would threaten to derail what little narrative is there.
It's not thoughtfulness, but rather the opposite, in that the author never actually intended to explore the logical conclusions of their actions. That's why they kiss and make up and it all gets brushed under the rug, cause actually dealing with it head on in a way that made sense or had any consequences would be hard.
They act like they do to maintain the status quo.
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