VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS S2 P3b] [Mircom3D]

[Leongen43]

Mircom3D made several things clear, such as that Martín was not a Savior but rather a calamity for the mc, Martin boy was right about Emma, that she was the one who ended the relationship, that the mc does not push but rather that encourages or persuades her to do things which is something that bothered me that they thought that mc will somehow force Anne, now that there are rules and they are like the ones I use, do you think that Anne has the ability to block it and if mc doesn't respect her decision that would act ntr, in the matter of Martin unless we fix things with him or reach a middle ground it is possible that Anne will not work for Martin, what do you think because if so the game would have a big change compared to TAC?

 

[EvolutionKills]

Christina!
If you don't know about Christina...
you know nothing about these developers....

Check that out! A brownnoser with the opinion that only other brownnosers have valid opinions. How original.

As opposed to people being able to form their own opinions based on demonstrable history. I don't care about what the dev has announced they plan to do in the future. My criticism is rooted in what they have done, and failed to do, already. I don't need to be keyed into all of the dev's wider meta-plans for the future to have valid criticism of this game in the here and now.

That I or anyone else would need to explain this to you, only speaks to your critical lack of anything remotely approaching objectivity.

he don't deserve success?
So you are a hater!

Hater? Nah. Spite takes lots of energy. I'm more bemused than anything else. You'd think that with their 3rd bite at the apple, this dev would be past making rookie tier mistakes. But they keep demonstrating that they are, in fact, just that incompetent.

How long does it take to develop a sensible plot for this scenario? According to you and this dev, 6 years and counting. You seem to be super excited and stoked about that. Myself? I think that's pretty cringe and super embarrassing.

I know very well this.. ddo you want to teach me?
That is why i just replay to your specific phrase about animation only...
the priority of this dev is precisely to be true to the time frame he promised his paying supporters and this story and so interesting that the Animations decided by Mirco, are more than enough to keep the processing time promised
here you are repeating yourself and still not understanding that Mircom worked on it for 6 years and is now devoting one hundred percent of his time to developing games for adults
and as said the quality of the animation that the author decides to do are in accordance with his workflow and promised scheduled time

he will release an update every month up to the end of Tacos.

Are you on the dev's payroll? Are you their PR manager?



If so, they should hire a new one. You're not particularly skilled at it.

With these first meaningless questions of yours do you think you are making yourself interesting in my eyes?

Fuck no. I'm not here to impress you.

Fun Fact: Neither is anyone else.

I thought you would realize thati had caught you on why you were talking about animations in hopes of adding delay to Mircon3D's workflow by preventing it from fulfilling its promises to its paying supporters....
but look it doesn't work with me!!!
You are just making yourself stupid if you think this trick will work with him

Oh god. You can't be this stupid. Can you?

You think I was ragging on the shit animation because I want the dev to spend more time on it, in some Machiavellian ploy to further delay the release of updates for this game?



Holy shit. There is being a simp, and then there is being a SIMP.

I can only add you to my blacklist
welcome to the world of the ignored people who write only repetitive nonsense

congratulations!

Literally no one thinks you're cool. Not a one. At best, they're indifferent to your act. At worse, they see your posturing for the whiney primadonna that you are. What has gone wrong with your life and your priorities where you need to go to the mat as a fully fledged White Knight for an (at best) lower mid-tier erotica developer? Not social justice, or equality, or the environment, or the fight against cancer, genocide, or world hunger. You are spending your time, effort, and energy being a White Knight for this.

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I literally cannot think of a sicker burn than to point out that obvious fact, and just let you continue to invoke the Streisand Effect.

 

[SevenCostanza]

Mircom3D made several things clear, such as that Martín was not a Savior but rather a calamity for the mc, Martin boy was right about Emma, that she was the one who ended the relationship, that the mc does not push but rather that encourages or persuades her to do things which is something that bothered me that they thought that mc will somehow force Anne, now that there are rules and they are like the ones I use, do you think that Anne has the ability to block it and if mc doesn't respect her decision that would act ntr, in the matter of Martin unless we fix things with him or reach a middle ground it is possible that Anne will not work for Martin, what do you think because if so the game would have a big change compared to Toc?

Unless the entire Martin story line is changed from the beginning it most likely will remain the way it's always been. Like the entire back story of him and the MC and his ex and how the wife knows the back story and how it affected him would need to change. Or they need to take the decision out of the MC's hands because that was just ridiculous. "Martin screwed me over and betrayed me and left lasting scars so stay away from him... oh yea go ahead and shower together." Huh?! The only issue with this is that it then becomes forced on the player which is another problem.
Even with no rules to their relationship it should have been obvious that Martin should be a no-go. Martin is one of, if not, the main 'cheating' route antagonist so even with rules it's likely things will progress much like in the old versions.
Maybe if it was like Martin was constantly cheating on MC's mother throughout their marriage and she eventually ended herself because of it and the MC held some deep resentment towards the dad but he's been trying to mend fences and fix their relationship and then Martin and the FMC slowly and reluctantly get closer or something behind the MC's back. Again, this doesn't solve the problem of how to trigger this series of events without some how giving the player the choice to let it happen but at least it's slightly more believable for Martin and the wife to get closer.
A lot of the problems stem from the choices being from the MC pov and not the wife.
So yea basically I don't see the Martin arc changing dramatically compared to previously unless there is some serious retconning or an entirely new approach to that arc which I doubt will happen seeing how TACOS has been so far.

 

[Adviar5050]

I agree. The developer has done a great job of setting up Martin even before he introduces him to the story. It will be interesting to see how Mircom deals with him when we finally meet him

 

[Leongen43]

Unless the entire Martin story line is changed from the beginning it most likely will remain the way it's always been. Like the entire back story of him and the MC and his ex and how the wife knows the back story and how it affected him would need to change. Or they need to take the decision out of the MC's hands because that was just ridiculous. "Martin screwed me over and betrayed me and left lasting scars so stay away from him... oh yea go ahead and shower together." Huh?! The only issue with this is that it then becomes forced on the player which is another problem.
Even with no rules to their relationship it should have been obvious that Martin should be a no-go. Martin is one of, if not, the main 'cheating' route antagonist so even with rules it's likely things will progress much like in the old versions.
Maybe if it was like Martin was constantly cheating on MC's mother throughout their marriage and she eventually ended herself because of it and the MC held some deep resentment towards the dad but he's been trying to mend fences and fix their relationship and then Martin and the FMC slowly and reluctantly get closer or something behind the MC's back. Again, this doesn't solve the problem of how to trigger this series of events without some how giving the player the choice to let it happen but at least it's slightly more believable for Martin and the wife to get closer.
A lot of the problems stem from the choices being from the MC pov and not the wife.
So yea basically I don't see the Martin arc changing dramatically compared to previously unless there is some serious retconning or an entirely new approach to that arc which I doubt will happen seeing how TACOS has been so far.

It's not about Martin's personality, which is already written and I don't think it's going to change much, but with rules we might have the option of preventing him from coming to the house like what happened with Ryan and we find him in another type of scene and we find him. Another is what Anne's attitude will be like now that she knows from their past that Martín was a calamity for the MC, the scenarios that I see possible with Martin having sex with Anne are if we have a bad relationship with her and the option of ntr or if we have the option to fix the differences to a certain extent with him, are the possible scenarios that I now see maybe there are more

 

[88stanford88]

Even with no rules to their relationship it should have been obvious that Martin should be a no-go.

about this Mircom is following a bit what i suggest him in my post here
The main rule in this adventure is make her comfortable in the sharing her with others... but at the end of 5b sheis again the one that want talk in serious way as she made in tac but after chapter 10 and in the barbados annyversary vacation
in 5b she is the one that start for first after fucking with the Pizza guy
I'm not ssure that this happens in the different routes so i do not want spoiler that much
butùthe main rule exist also in Tac and is that they have to be 100% honest with each other

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and up to here everything is obvious
but the surprise for me is this,,, she ask to be 100% honest as always but there is more




I live the last 3 screenshots open because they are creating the rules during the progression of their adventures and this time in tacos they talk about rules earlier than as it was in the old release

And as everyone know:
RULES ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN !

SEE YA!

 

[Dessolos]

After seeing the ground rules and Martin as a no go zone. I think the Martin cheating will only happen in one of a few ways.

1. If Anne and Tony have another serious talk and this time Anne sets some no go zones for Tony and he breaks them. Then I think that will open Anne up to cheating with just Martin since he is a no go zone and Anne will see that as a equal trade.

2. Low relationship score as well but I think this would open her up to cheating with more than just Martin.

3. Since Anne kind of giving Tony consent to play too and if Tony ends up playing more and denying / stopping Anne I can see this one opening up a cheating path as well. But this might fall under low relationship score as well.

 

[Leongen43]

After seeing the ground rules and Martin as a no go zone. I think the Martin cheating will only happen in one of a few ways.

1. If Anne and Tony have another serious talk and this time Anne sets some no go zones for Tony and he breaks them. Then I think that will open Anne up to cheating with just Martin since he is a no go zone and Anne will see that as a equal trade.

2. Low relationship score as well but I think this would open her up to cheating with more than just Martin.

3. Since Anne kind of giving Tony consent to play too and if Tony ends up playing more and denying / stopping Anne I can see this one opening up a cheating path as well. But this might fall under low relationship score as well.

The scenarios you described are nothing new to me because I described them before in other posts, what you are missing is the possibility that the mc and Martin can fix their relationship to a certain extent and the possibility of a soft ntr where Anne can work and have sex with Martín without having to hide it from the MC, although it seems impossible for us there is still the possibility because it is a fictional story and it would serve to vary the content of the game

 

[Dessolos]

The scenarios you described are nothing new to me because I described them before in other posts, what you are missing is the possibility that the mc and Martin can fix their relationship to a certain extent and the possibility of a soft ntr where Anne can work and have sex with Martín without having to hide it from the MC, although it seems impossible for us there is still the possibility because it is a fictional story and it would serve to vary the content of the game

ah yeah I did miss your post truthfully just felt like sharing what I thought after thinking about it some. What you describe I think would be a nice and welcome change.

 

[doccop63]

There is a short KN that I downloaded a few weeks ago called, My Life As A Stewardess. It deals with Anne and Tony. There's a storyline in it that will satisfy a few people in the Anne/Martin controversy. There's also elements that will piss some people off as well but I enjoyed it. It's not very large as data goes and it is very interesting.

 

[Leongen43]

ah yeah I did miss your post truthfully just felt like sharing what I thought after thinking about it some. What you describe I think would be a nice and welcome change.

OK, but you owe a like for that , seriously, it's kind of strange that the posts I exchanged with Grumpy and the others are now the rule of the relationship when it seemed like they were against them, the dialogues that Anne has about the rules They are like my posts. Does that mean that Mircom3D called me a bitch in a subtle way?

 

[Jstforme]

Putting aside our differences for a moment, you played the update and if you did, you read the part where they talk about the rules, they don't sound much like the post I wrote several times about having rules to not hurt your couple, the distance, the honesty and that the mc should be there watching or participating when Anne has sex with others, I reblogged my posts and many were what I exchanged with grumpy and that even Martín boy (88standford88) made fun of me saying that I was the good boy for thinking like that , what do you think?

I don't see how that's possible to be honest. Your rules are correct, and it's the way it should be in a perfect world...but people are assholes and liars by nature, and women learn at a very early age how easy it is to manipulate a situation to their advantage...Hell, now a days women are encouraged/trained via social media to do so. IMHO, a couple that opens their marriage, especially a young marriage like the TACO couple, it's because their is an element in the relationship that can't be met by the spouse. Once that missing element is found in another person, the problems start from there.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

The scenarios you described are nothing new to me because I described them before in other posts, what you are missing is the possibility that the mc and Martin can fix their relationship to a certain extent and the possibility of a soft ntr where Anne can work and have sex with Martín without having to hide it from the MC, although it seems impossible for us there is still the possibility because it is a fictional story and it would serve to vary the content of the game

Some times my friend I worry about your sanity . Martin and Tony sharing Anne, too much for me.

 

[Leongen43]

Some times my friend I worry about your sanity . Martin and Tony sharing Anne, too much for me.

It is a possibility that I am open to if the option appears, although Anne being loyal throughout the story makes it harder for me to believe with all the stabs she gave me in Tac, but if Anne is loyal and the only way to have sex with Kelsie would be If you let her have sex with Martín, what would you do? Would you take her to the airport saying I'll come pick her up on Thursday so you can go with Kelsie?

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

It is a possibility that I am open to if the option appears, although Anne being loyal throughout the story makes it harder for me to believe with all the stabs she gave me in Tac, but if Anne is loyal and the only way to have sex with Kelsie would be If you let her have sex with Martín, what would you do? Would you take her to the airport saying I'll come pick her up on Thursday so you can go with Kelsie?

The couple being happy and staying together is my preference but if Anne and Martin betray MC. I would want Martin and Anne to meet a slow plane falling out of the sky fiery death. MC and the wonderful Kelsey running off together. Kelsey will sooth his wounded heart

 

[Leongen43]

The couple being happy and staying together is my preference but if Anne and Martin betray MC. I would want Martin and Anne to meet a slow plane falling out of the sky fiery death. MC and the wonderful Kelsey running off together. Kelsey will sooth his wounded heart:sneaks:

I would love the option that they end up together and that their relationship is stronger than at the beginning and shows that the decision they made was the right one, but if she betrays me again I would prefer the plane to crash on a frozen mountain or a desert island so that Anne practices cannibalism with Martin and then the bitch dies of hunger

 

[Leongen43]

Can you imagine that scenario that Anne described before where approaches Martin and he thinks she is going to give him a blowjob and without him realizing it she bites off his penis and eats it like it were a hot dog, horrible see but if we enjoy it would it be wrong?

 

[Dessolos]

Can you imagine that scenario that Anne described before where approaches Martin and he thinks she is going to give him a blowjob and without him realizing it she bites off his penis and eats it like it were a hot dog, horrible see but if we enjoy it would it be wrong?

lmfao that cracked me up and is something I wouldn't mind seeing would be pretty funny to see in game honestly cause how much of a pos Martin is.

 

[Leongen43]

Something that I have to admit that a fellow member of the forum wrote and he is absolutely right is that the rules scene had to have been before the spa scene because Anne's attitude when we chose that the mc does not want her to have sex with those me It seemed like crap because the most normal thing would be for her to understand that there is a world of difference between fantasy and reality and if he wasn't sure she should have been understanding with him but instead she decided to get angry, something that I thought was terrible about her, an attitude of Damn bitch because the mc is supposed to be the love of her life and she would never have to treat him like that and I say this from experience because I would never get angry with my wife if she doesn't feel safe taking a step that she doesn't feel ready for even if If she were to encourage me and then regret it because she is the love of my life and I would never make her feel bad, it is strange that Mircom3D does not understand something like this, I hope you understand my point

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Something that I have to admit that a fellow member of the forum wrote and he is absolutely right is that the rules scene had to have been before the spa scene because Anne's attitude when we chose that the mc does not want her to have sex with those me It seemed like crap because the most normal thing would be for her to understand that there is a world of difference between fantasy and reality and if he wasn't sure she should have been understanding with him but instead she decided to get angry, something that I thought was terrible about her, an attitude of Damn bitch because the mc is supposed to be the love of her life and she would never have to treat him like that and I say this from experience because I would never get angry with my wife if she doesn't feel safe taking a step that she doesn't feel ready for even if If she were to encourage me and then regret it because she is the love of my life and I would never make her feel bad, it is strange that Mircom3D does not understand something like this, I hope you understand my point

for the first time in a long time I came here to read how the game is progressing, , I see the game has not changed since then. and I agree with you!