VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS S2 P3b] [Mircom3D]

[88stanford88]

This thread is really out of control most of the times with complaining about TAC, a version of a game that can't be changed anymore and its topic should long be closed by now!

On this and many others of your posts I have always agreed... but I at least have a reason to continue to have fun since if you look in my black list you will understand...
I can't stand people who spread falsehoods d inaccuracies....
I came in January in this thread and I always tried to talk about how the logic of the story develops...

I used to recommend playing the game by not identifying with the MC because I thought it was the understandable revulsion at feeling cuckolded that made them complain

Now they have made me an expert on it, and now I have decided to play THE MC and set out to fuck every woman I meet.
as you can see I hate repeating myself and I have peace with experimenting...now I am not Martin.... I am Tony

Actually i have about 18 users in my black list in fact on this page (702) I only see mine and your posts
right now I don't care to look at what they write about me ... because they always repeat the same mantra

I can just suggest to see this post
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-adventurous-couple-tacos-part-5b-mircom3d.7192/post-10632227
I was in the "Therapist" phase trying to make it clear that it was better to play without identifying with the MC

I have done my best to make them believe i was Martin... some of them at first thought I was an alt account of Mrcom3D
Now I'm the MC!

it was very funny!

 

[88stanford88]

"the wiser one yields"

or he can make a black list with 18 account that it is very easy that some of them are ALT accounts!
I just want talk about the game and when i see phrase like
"Why Anne in the Keisey event does not stop us???"
this are the perfect kind of sentence where with some pic from the game is very easy to back the discussion inside the real storyline

 

[Joratox]

Can we just press ignore on the ppl that derail the threads and have talks about the actual game being developed ? Instead of versions that even the developer said got out of hand and are stopped for that reason ?
I come here from time to time to check the game progress, maybe if there are updates from patreon and such...and I always see pages of ppl arguing about nothing worthwhile.

 

[88stanford88]

Can we just press ignore on the ppl that derail the threads and have talks about the actual game being developed ?

Sure you can ignore all the users you want
EG: if you ignore me i will never recieve this reaplay to you,

Instead of versions that even the developer said got out of hand and are stopped for that reason ?

About the old version the dev said that not all the old game slip out of his hands...
the Dev message is date Feb 2023 and he was referring only chapters from 12 or 13 to 15

Anyway the developer has an account in F95 and he is in control of this thread and he is the one who chose to use the same thread of the old edition.
The plot is basically identical.. that is why is allowed to compare the old version with the new TACOS
I suggest you to read this post (if you have not read it already) with his answers on the most common question from the TAC "complainers"
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-adventurous-couple-tacos-part-5b-mircom3d.7192/post-10190687

 

[Slick Bean]

This dev makes players give input for both scenes of Ann and scenes of Tony.

not all the old game slip out of his hands

I do not understand why they complain that much if something happens what is out of their hands. They play as casanova, act dishonestly and wonder and feel attacked when the LI beginns to cheat.
This is how the game is coded it. Not RL.

Sudden left turns where Ann or Tony fly off the handle will always irk players,
because this dev has been consistently giving them choices to decide on the scenes.

It is only fair gamers will rage if dev wants to do away with the adventurous choices
players have made all throughout the story at some point where Ann or Tony make
uncomprehensible choices for those gamers who chose other adventurous paths for our heroes.

 

[Dessolos]

I can only empathize with someone in novels which I'm reading but can't do that in games and won't ever do it. I try to examine all routes available and the most important thing for me is the coherence of the plot.
Somehow I can only imagine how people feel if they imagine themselve as the MC, but I do not understand why they complain that much if something happens what is out of their hands. They play as casanova, act dishonestly and wonder and feel attacked when the LI beginns to cheat.
This is how the game is coded it. Not RL.

Yeah I always play these games disconnected from the MC I treat the MC like i'm just a player controlling the character like in any other normal AAA game while making the choices that I as the player want to make and not thinking about the MC most of the time. Which is one reason I think I can enjoy some games on here others dislike or I never really see MC's as being weak, walked over or whatever else people complain about in MC's. Since it's hard to have an opinion about a MC if I dont think about them.

 

[sagerock820]

My hero, on his high horse defending the thread bully. Well done. You think your defending the victim, your defending the bully.

I lost count of the amount of times he has gone after me unprovoked on two different threads. The first few times I didn't even know who the hell he was. He goes after nearly every new poster on this thread. Everyone's crime, we dare to have a different opinion. I've been watching him do it ever since I joined this forum. This was one of the first threads I watched. He has brought this on himself. I'm done with him going after people for having a different opinion. This is not the only place he has gotten a lot of flak in for being an ass and attacking people. Its been going on long before Leongen ever arrived on the scene. Go for a wade through the 700 pages and have a look.

I stopped replying to him awhile ago and just ignore him now. He spews the same old thing over and over again. He could care less for anyone else's opinion. He is not worth the time or effort.

 

[Leongen43]

Yeah I always play these games disconnected from the MC I treat the MC like i'm just a player controlling the character like in any other normal AAA game while making the choices that I as the player want to make and not thinking about the MC most of the time. Which is one reason I think I can enjoy some games on here others dislike or I never really see MC's as being weak, walked over or whatever else people complain about in MC's. Since it's hard to have an opinion about a MC if I dont think about them.

It's true, I see it as a game that I enjoy like others that I download, I never understand why they are so serious when it would be better to have fun without disrespecting each other and everyone has their own opinion about the game, this is the only thread where I have this problem in others I get along well with everyone, even though I'm not going to give up because I have good colleagues, friends and my grumpy brother who I will always support and help if they need me

Speaking a little about the game, you didn't find it strange, the gym animations in this latest update seem like they are from another game, it must be experienced, I would like 3dcg animations of group sex, such as an animation of Anne kicking Martin's testicles, we would have the option to see it in different angles like in the scene behind the gym?

 

[88stanford88]

Somehow I can only imagine how people feel if they imagine themselve as the MC, but I do not understand why they complain that much if something happens what is out of their hands. They play as casanova, act dishonestly and wonder and feel attacked when the LI beginns to cheat.

For me is different because about 25 years ago I was for more than 10 years in a relationship with a girl who was considered a nymphomaniac...but she was too beautiful and I fell in love when I was 18 Years old and playing on a band.... she is a singer and actress but also worked at an FM radio station in my town that was run by friends....
She fell in love with me but was reluctant and from the beginning told me that she was certainly not a saint...after all, a lot of my friends knew her...let's say she was a very popular 18 year old girl...but after a year we fell in love and for at least 4/5 years we were faithful to each other

I was young she was young and i pushed her about show off her body..

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without making it too long -- even though it's been years we still hang out -- and I think for me the best way to play this novel is play as the MC.

I can only empathize with someone in novels which I'm reading but can't do that in games and won't ever do it

here i don't agree with you-- we are talking about erotic novels! that is a specific genre
I believe reading a novel in a book is not very different from playing a game where it is about a novella---so on this point I don't soo agree... a novel, a movie, a game... if they are well written they are interesting and deserves the same respect...

it's not that just because it's a video game it's to be considered as something inferior as second rate art

I believe that a well-written novel indeed is much more complicated to write and translate as a interactive video game and we are obviously talking about erotic literature
write a good story is not easy but make an interactive story is much more complicated!

classic erotic literature was written on paper because computers didn't exist then

today writers of erotic literature use current technologies and maybe in 40 years this and other games will be considered classic games about eroticism and sex

this sentence of yours I find too classist towards an art that is in continuous development
if the story is written well, it doesn't matter what medium is used to tell it.... in fact I think interactive stories are potentially better... and maybe one day this will be considered a masterpiece of its genre!

The story is the most important thing... the technology is just related to the time we are living today!

 

[88stanford88]

It is only fair gamers will rage if dev wants to do away with the adventurous choices

here is your error
it is not a game about adventures ...
this Game is about The Adventurous Couple...
there are no adventures..

It is all about my wife and I...
and we are adventurous within our relationship.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

It's true, I see it as a game that I enjoy like others that I download, I never understand why they are so serious when it would be better to have fun without disrespecting each other and everyone has their own opinion about the game, this is the only thread where I have this problem in others I get along well with everyone, even though I'm not going to give up because I have good colleagues, friends and my grumpy brother who I will always support and help if they need me

Speaking a little about the game, you didn't find it strange, the gym animations in this latest update seem like they are from another game, it must be experienced, I would like 3dcg animations of group sex, such as an animation of Anne kicking Martin's testicles, we would have the option to see it in different angles like in the scene behind the gym?

Always my friend. You know S and I were initially friendly engaging on the SG thread. I even defended him. Then suddenly he just launched in to a personal attack and then asked me to join his page. It was bizarre.

I stopped replying to him awhile ago and just ignore him now. He spews the same old thing over and over again. He could care less for anyone else's opinion. He is not worth the time or effort.

You're right. I stopped for a long time, but I got sick of him attacking people.

Yeah I always play these games disconnected from the MC I treat the MC like i'm just a player controlling the character like in any other normal AAA game while making the choices that I as the player want to make and not thinking about the MC most of the time. Which is one reason I think I can enjoy some games on here others dislike or I never really see MC's as being weak, walked over or whatever else people complain about in MC's. Since it's hard to have an opinion about a MC if I dont think about them.

Interesting POV. I like to immerse myself in the character and the game. At times that can stir emotions up if my MC is being attacked or betrayed or whatever. I then want justice for my MC at some stage in the story. It also can lead me to feeling close affiliations with other characters. In TACOS I feel affiliated with Kelsey as she gives the MC such strong affection. She lets him know of her desire for him without causing him drama. The negative side, in TAC, Anne's betrayal really pissed me off.

 

[Dessolos]

Interesting POV. I like to immerse myself in the character and the game. At times that can stir emotions up if my MC is being attacked or betrayed or whatever. I then want justice for my MC at some stage in the story. It also can lead me to feeling close affiliations with other characters. In TACOS I feel affiliated with Kelsey as she gives the MC such strong affection. She lets him know of her desire for him without causing him drama. The negative side, in TAC, Anne's betrayal really pissed me off.

Yeah I wish it was something I was able to do easily not sure if it's that just a side effect from how I been gaming for my entire life or what. But to immerse my self I have to actively try to think like the mc or what he would do. Which is something that doesn't come easy or nature to me. So I just find it easier to not even try immerse myself and just disconnect myself from a MC and play like how I been for years. So because how I play the only emotion I really feel is from the side / pov of other characters.

 

[Leongen43]

Always my friend. You know S and I were initially friendly engaging on the SG thread. I even defended him. Then suddenly he just launched in to a personal attack and then asked me to join his page. It was bizarre.


You're right. I stopped for a long time, but I got sick of him attacking people.


Interesting POV. I like to immerse myself in the character and the game. At times that can stir emotions up if my MC is being attacked or betrayed or whatever. I then want justice for my MC at some stage in the story. It also can lead me to feeling close affiliations with other characters. In TACOS I feel affiliated with Kelsey as she gives the MC such strong affection. She lets him know of her desire for him without causing him drama. The negative side, in TAC, Anne's betrayal really pissed me off.

My problem with 88stanford88 did not happen because of something he did against me but because of that lack of respect towards the other members and that was when I started to face it

When I play I like to have both looks to understand the game better but I have to admit that the mc of this game has some things that I don't understand, like why he is so permissive with Anne especially when she has that double face with him and when she trusts him He lets it pass as if nothing had happened, is it strange or did it just seem to me?

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Yeah I wish it was something I was able to do easily not sure if it's that just a side effect from how I been gaming for my entire life or what. But to immerse my self I have to actively try to think like the mc or what he would do. Which is something that doesn't come easy or nature to me. So I just find it easier to not even try immerse myself and just disconnect myself from a MC and play like how I been for years. So because how I play the only emotion I really feel is from the side / pov of other characters.

Fair enough, we all approach gaming with our own POVs and intricacies. It makes it interesting.

 

[Dessolos]

lol that treadmill animation made me laugh so hard . I didnt even look at all of them in the update as I just kind of skimmed through

 

[88stanford88]

Indeed the animation on the treadmill is missing sth. The movement how the legs stretches forward is wrong, it misses the bent knee.
Also the timing in renpy for the gym run .png images is too fast.
A convertion into webm for the animation could have been the better option, especially with regard to the size Part 5b already reached.
116 png images alone for seeing both girls running on the treadmill.

as I said in another post the animations is not so important in this game... and for sure there will be time to fix in the future updates

But I think the most important thing for Mircom is to respect the updates release timing

in my opinion this must be the main focus for the dev.... if animations will require a fix (as it is) this will be for sure fixed in future updates... for now we are in the holiday season And this is the time when people spend money most easily and until Jan 2024 there must a big story progression in the Punta Cana vacation and more...

than later in the 2024 he will for sure fix the animation... with a little delaying the update release and a good motivation to do that

in the winter holiday season it is not the best time to start posting some stupid excuse for delaying the updates

 

[Leongen43]

For you it may not be important but for mircom3d it should be, that's why it seems that he is experienced, because he must know in order for his product to be marketed to a larger audience he must improve everything possible to sell his game on steam, gog, epic, he knows that he will have strong competition because no matter how good his story is, it could be overshadowed by titles with very high quality animations thanks to tool updates

 

[atrebor68]

Uhm, I gave another chance at this game, but now it shows that is really old in storyline and concept. If 4-5 years a story like TAC was interesting for the taboo, now seems tò watch a '80 porn movie.

 

[Dessolos]

I'm fine with bad animation if the characters and story are good enough they make up for it since I know animations isnt easy for every dev to learn. Which to me this game is more of a guilty pleasure that's enjoyable and nothing more. But when I see a animation that isnt just bad but cringeworthy and makes you laugh like the treadmill one it makes me wonder why was that one even included. Since he had to know that one lacked quality but on a large margin than the rest. But at the end of the day not a huge deal to me, just makes me question it.

 

[88stanford88]

Uhm, I gave another chance at this game, but now it shows that is really old in storyline and concept. If 4-5 years a story like TAC was interesting for the taboo, now seems tò watch a '80 porn movie.

porn movies from the 80's?? LOL they are classics and some of them are masterpiece but....
They were blurry and without any plot...
you couldn't even see the actors' faces because they framed full-screen fucking zooming in on genitals. i did a search in XVideos where there are a lot of classic movies... the best for the plot was italian with Moana Pozzi and Selene!

Porn movies in '80s are better than the now-day porns bc today they are all tfilmed in the same room with a sofa or somthing like that... Legal Porn ecc.. no plot.. just always the 5 or 6 same scenes with different actress

I think getting some idea from the '80s porn movie is very good idea!
but this idea was taken from a couple therapy group!

Well if you're saying they're reminiscent of a classic porn genre I can maybe go along with you but here we are talking about in interactive game from only 4 years ago that was was never completed and back in the '80 my uncle was a fan of them and i was a kid just in my early teens.

In any case I'm happy that you give another chance to this game.. it is masterpiece!

Tacos started in March 2023 and in the '80s there was no iPhones and Gopro cameras ..


maybe in the '80s the best computer was a Commodore 64 and only in the late '80s