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Chillout1984

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She is guaranteed to be the niece of one of them. She didn't ask and he didn't say anything because the dev didn't want the cat out of the bag yet. If she isn't related I have never understood a thing about porn games. I'm not a fan of the situation but I figure the MC will of course rescue his cousin so that she doesn't do more than one trick.
That's the issue though. With a lot if not most stories, you can see the twist/surprise reveal coming from miles away just because characters don't ask/talk about obvious things. So if she is indeed a niece of them both, them not asking about Roxy's aunt has the opposite effect of what the dev was trying to do. A different way that could've worked however while still one of them being her aunt, is for example Roxy knows the aunt by a different name than MC does, like a completely different birth name or something.
 

zeromike

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Got to say, the first time with the sister was really badly done. Only 2 camera angels both close ups...like that's the worst sex scene in the game so far imo, even the forplay with other LI's was better done.
Roxy's scene was a bit better still too much close up.
It seems to be his MO. The early scene that was removed with the aunt was just a closeup with no other angles. A bit of variety in the camera angles helps even if you don't add other positions.
 
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we might need to find some middle ground that'll make sense for us both, which is why we'll be spitballing some ideas which I'll eventually turn into a poll for you guys to vote on. I will, of course, have a couple of my special landlady love stories as an option, and if those win, then those win. But, at some point, we might need to do one for his supporters, so keep that in mind.

ALWAYS remember that when talking about NTR, there is no such thing as a "light NTR", i.e. there is no middle ground. There is only ON/OFF. "Light NTR" is enough for most of the harem players to put the game on the ignorelist. Or actually, for the majority of players, if there is a so-called light NTR, the game will end up on the ignorelist. There is no mild version of that hated thing, but all either ON/OFF, so one NTR image will throw the game on the ignorelist. And then a large number of potential supporters will also be thrown out of the game if there is a middle ground NTR. At the same time you are doing unnecessary work when there are no more players. It's been seen here far too many times that if DEV brings in a NTR in the middle of a game, it ruins everything and the game gets abandoned with a tag in the title. Don't even think about any middle ground NTR.
 

Chillout1984

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ALWAYS remember that when talking about NTR, there is no such thing as a "light NTR", i.e. there is no middle ground. There is only ON/OFF. "Light NTR" is enough for most of the harem players to put the game on the ignorelist. Or actually, for the majority of players, if there is a so-called light NTR, the game will end up on the ignorelist. There is no mild version of that hated thing, but all either ON/OFF, so one NTR image will throw the game on the ignorelist. And then a large number of potential supporters will also be thrown out of the game if there is a middle ground NTR. At the same time you are doing unnecessary work when there are no more players. It's been seen here far too many times that if DEV brings in a NTR in the middle of a game, it ruins everything and the game gets abandoned with a tag in the title. Don't even think about any middle ground NTR.
There are two good middlegrounds for it: Make it optional depending on your choices and easily avoidable (like make it clear in the choice that it leads to NTR) or let it happen storywise, but make it optional to watch the sex scenes.
That way (especially the first option) you make both NTR haters and lovers happy.
 

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There are two good middlegrounds for it: Make it optional depending on your choices and easily avoidable (like make it clear in the choice that it leads to NTR) or let it happen storywise, but make it optional to watch the sex scenes.
That way (especially the first option) you make both NTR haters and lovers happy.
nope.. Speaking for me, and not for all.

respectfully

would rather pay and support a dev who only cater to content I consume that they enjoy as well. Not funding cuck content period. Most of the time the NTR side gets more content then the vanilla/harem side.. A huge waste of time. I did this in the past, never again.

Optional or not.

I am GOOD.

I stand by pick a side and stick with it. It's impossible to make everyone happy. There are only a few exceptions of games that successfully pulled it off mixing oil and water. And even then the comments on those games are still a battleground.
 
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Beast Within

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There are two good middlegrounds for it: Make it optional depending on your choices and easily avoidable (like make it clear in the choice that it leads to NTR) or let it happen storywise, but make it optional to watch the sex scenes.
That way (especially the first option) you make both NTR haters and lovers happy.
at this point most harem fans dont touch a game if it has ntr in whatever shape or form. even if it is implied that something happened the dev is fucked. there are many many examples but no need to go far. just see what happened with emi. I know people ( me included) who wont touch a game if it has unavoidable lesbians in it. as for the "what ifs", just check what happened with research into affection when the idea was dropped that they MIGHT make some ntr "what ifs". the dev nealry kissed asses to keep his patrons promising he would put that dogshit into a different game and when that idea didnt work he dumped it completely., because at the end of the day a full wallet is far better than an empty one.
the cuck lovers went all picachu face when their pride and joy, deliverance, finished and the dev came out publicly and said that he wont ever make a ntr/sharing/swinging game again, because his biggest mistake was adding avoidable sharing in deliverance and that plummeted his subscribers and hurt his profit. a lot!
 

bigjack910

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It's tough because Chapter 8 gave me exactly what I had been wanting for a while, and yet it left me feeling disappointed. Felt that way about the latest Altered Destiny as well. Guess we will need to wait for some *deeper* developments with certain characters before it's truly worthwhile.
 
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44 minutes ago

Hey all,

I wanted to jump on real quick and give a little update for episode 8 and also do a couple of introductions as well and update you on some changes to the plans and other little things going forward.
  • The Introductions:
I'd like to introduce you to a couple of people. The first being the lovely lady in the render, Roxy. The poll has finished, and you guys have spoken; with a whopping 39%, the name has been set. She'll be introduced in episode 8 and will play quite a vital role.

Second, I'd like to introduce you to Kingcrab. If you're in the Discord group, I'm sure you've seen him around, and the name won't be new to you, but he's been a patron for quite a while and has been somewhat of an unofficial proofreader for some time also. But we got to talking over the last couple of weeks about the lack of progress in the game, and after some back and forth, we were able to identify some issues that were causing the delays, the big one being my own laziness... but we won't talk about that :p Another is simply my lack of motivation to write; this is why I write mini games most of the time, to write something fresh to put me back in the mood for writing the cabin. But after talking for some time, we got onto the discussion of the possibility of him coming on as a writer. At this point, I had about half of the script done, maybe a little less, but he started off with the Roxy introduction scene, and after a couple of days, he came back with a finished story, and although his initial script was good, it needed to be tweaked a bit due to the formal nature he was writing at times. He tweaked it and got it just right. Then he worked on another scene ( 2nd to last ) and that one had far fewer issues. I think 95% of the issues were mostly code issues that I would be doing anyway, like incorrect code names for characters, etc. Then, he worked on the final scene, and let me tell you, it was perfect. Not a single issue, and the story was spot on. I feel like I rambled a little there; long story short, Kingcrab is joining the team as a writer. In theory, this should boost productivity and, in turn, make the release windows shorter. Not to mention, he's already made a start on episode 9 so while I'm chugging away at episode 8, he's going to do episode 9 and so on.
  • The Faults:
My laziness aside, I did discover a major fault that was slowing down production. I've had the issue before and fixed it, but I hadn't had it in so long that I didn't notice it had cropped back up again until it was too late. There is a Daz asset called Octane Render, which is supposed to be a super awesome render engine; in my opinion, it's dog shite, but what do I know? The issue with Octane Render is it infects your assets with little nodes. Unless you have "show hidden nodes" turned on, you'll never know you have them. Now, normally I would have "show hidden nodes" turned on, but a few months back, I formatted my PC and forgot to enable it again when I reinstalled everything, so once again, I was slowly infected once more. "But Cell, what's the big issue with that?" I hear you say, Well, the issue with that is some of my renders had over 50,000 hidden nodes, making a single DUF over 1GB in size. Keep in mind a normal Duf shouldn't be more than 2,000kb, so you can see the issue. It took no less than 40 minutes to load a render and about 4 hours to delete all 50,000 nodes. It's safe to say this weekend was a waste. But the nodes are gone, and "show hidden nodes" is enabled once more, so I shouldn't have that issue anymore, and production speed can pick up.
  • Some Changes:
Now, I know I said I wasn't going to make any more minigames until at least episode 10 is done... or was it episode 9? ... I don't know, but I said something. Either way, I will need to work on one soon. I'm at a point where if I don't get one out by July, I won't be able to afford the very cushy lifestyle I've become accustomed to ( eating £1 pizza and having the luxury of jerking off all day ). But in all honesty, Steam revenue is way down, to the point where The Cabin probably makes around $40 a month and Adverse Effects is maybe a little higher. With Kingcrab taking the helm of writing The Cabin ( under my watchful eye, of course ), I have a little time freed up to write something new. "But... you were just talking about speeding up production of The Cabin, Cell, my dear boy. Wouldn't doing the art for a minigame slow you back down?" Ah, I hear you; it absolutely would, which is why I won't be doing the art. I've been in talks with another artist ( I say "another" like I'm one myself ), and he's agreed to do the art while I do the writing/coding. So we shouldn't see a dip in productivity, at least no more than the shittiness we've already seen

There was more I wanted to talk about, but it took me that long to ramble above that I forgot what I was going to say. I'll leave you with this: the artist I plan on doing a minigame with mostly does NTR or female-led corruption games. As you know... I don't. That being said, we might need to find some middle ground that'll make sense for us both, which is why we'll be spitballing some ideas which I'll eventually turn into a poll for you guys to vote on. I will, of course, have a couple of my special landlady love stories as an option, and if those win, then those win. But, at some point, we might need to do one for his supporters, so keep that in mind.
NTR here we go again, god-damn it.
 

crazygame

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IIRC you also must have the relevant love interest variable = 1 for the sex scenes to occur. The are lli, gli and hli for Lisa, Grace and Hazel respectively.
hello is there a way to update the variable without having to play again. Like others game with shit+O? what is the name of the variable in the game?
 

asahibito

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hello is there a way to update the variable without having to play again. Like others game with shit+O? what is the name of the variable in the game?
Gli, hli, lli respectively.
or just use my gallery mod for those scenes.
 

_SerapH_

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NTR here we go again, god-damn it.
NTR here we go again, god-damn it.
Dude, it's pretty obvious what's going on. The developer probably screwed up the game a lot and lost a lot of players, and now he's going to try to recover this way, so I guess that's it. It was good while it lasted, but the future looks bleak and once you go down that path, there's no turning back. Honestly, if he does that he's really stupid and nothing more, he's going to lose the rest of the players who still have hope for the game to get better but continuing to make mistakes will ruin his reputation but if he thinks this is what's best for him I wish him luck.
 
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