BMVV

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Things are getting kind of slow as I progress the game. How much content is in december and beyond of story mode? I'm in chapter 4 Feels like there might be more. I remember from the last time I played there was some content with potentially getting one of your drivers or whatever in the pit or saving them but I don't know what happens after that.

Also how do I make it less slow? And Can I use my body changing stuff on my Pit Slaves? Last time we couldn't give a slave a dick or a vagina so I was wondering if we could now.
 

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Things are getting kind of slow as I progress the game. How much content is in december and beyond of story mode? I'm in chapter 4 Feels like there might be more. I remember from the last time I played there was some content with potentially getting one of your drivers or whatever in the pit or saving them but I don't know what happens after that.

Also how do I make it less slow? And Can I use my body changing stuff on my Pit Slaves? Last time we couldn't give a slave a dick or a vagina so I was wondering if we could now.
Story ends in February

In terms of slow I have 0 context for how you're actually playing so not sure what to recommend.

As for The Pit, yeah you can give them BMB, TSM, and the other one I forget what is called. But they work differently to how you would think
 

BMVV

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Story ends in February

In terms of slow I have 0 context for how you're actually playing so not sure what to recommend.

As for The Pit, yeah you can give them BMB, TSM, and the other one I forget what is called. But they work differently to how you would think
I mean the game kind of lags the further into the story I get. I heard it had something to do with save file size?

Anyway, when do I get to give the Pit Slaves transformatives?
 

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I mean the game kind of lags the further into the story I get. I heard it had something to do with save file size?

Anyway, when do I get to give the Pit Slaves transformatives?
1. Turn off Autosave in Settings. That's the biggest issue. Just manually save and that should fix most of the lag
2. It's in the Menu somewhere. I wanna say the Lab portion or Surgery? Whatever that's called.
 
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BMVV

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Must not have gotten far enough into the story to be able to use BMB and TSM in the Pit yet cuz I don't see the ability to use it anywhere.

I also have no saves or auto saves but it still lags. I think the general data is just slowing things down. I'll try a different browser or something. Using Firefox.
 

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Just for confirmation then, all the groping and fingering etc in the kitchen that you could previously do with the mother as she stood at the kitchen stove along with the rubbing thighs, kissing neck, fingering on the sofa, all the nightime events in the both of the bedrooms that could previously be done (if you were playing as an absolute sexual maniac) - all of those events will never come back?
Oh I joined too late for that sounds a shame to have lost it,
 

BMVV

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Here, ripped from the game files :

Code:
"Oral Fixation":
name: "Oral Fixation",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [1,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["oral", 1],
value: 1500

"Oral Expert":
name: "Oral Expert",
perkReq: "Oral Fixation", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [2,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["oral", 3],
value: 4500

"Oral Lover":
name: "Oral Lover",
perkReq: "Oral Expert", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [4,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["oral", 5],
value: 9000

"Oral Obsession":
name: "Oral Obsession",
perkReq: "Oral Lover", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [6,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["oral", 10],
value: 18000

"Anal Fixation":
name: "Anal Fixation",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [1,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["anal", 1],
value: 1500

"Anal Expert":
name: "Anal Expert",
perkReq: "Anal Fixation", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [3,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["anal", 3],
value: 4500

"Nipple Fixation":
name: "Nipple Fixation",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [1,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["breasts", 1],
value: 1500

"Breeding Kink":
name: "Breeding Kink",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [2,10], wlpReq: [0,8], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["pussy", 1],
value: 4500,
bonusPerk: "Submissive", bonusValue: 10000

"Nymphomaniac":
name: "Nymphomaniac",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none", traitNeg: "Frigid",
sexReq: [8,10], wlpReq: [0,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["none"],
value: 15000

"Dominant":
name: "Dominant",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [0,10], wlpReq: [4,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["dom", 1],
value: 4500

"Sadistic":
name: "Sadistic",
perkReq: "Dominant", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [4,10], wlpReq: [6,10], ltyReq: [2,10],
skillReq: ["dom", 3],
value: 4500

"Cruel":
name: "Cruel",
perkReq: "Sadistic", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [2,10], wlpReq: [8,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["dom", 5],
value: 7500

"Evil":
name: "Evil",
perkReq: "Cruel", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [0,10], wlpReq: [10,10], ltyReq: [0,10],
skillReq: ["dom", 10],
value: 15000

"Submissive":
name: "Submissive",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [0,10], wlpReq: [0,2], ltyReq: [4,10],
skillReq: ["sub", 1],
value: 1500,
bonusPerk: "Breeding Kink", bonusValue: 10000

"Masochistic":
name: "Masochistic",
perkReq: "Submissive", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [4,10], wlpReq: [0,4], ltyReq: [6,10],
skillReq: ["sub", 3],
value: 4500

"Subservient":
name: "Subservient",
perkReq: "Masochistic", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [2,10], wlpReq: [0,4], ltyReq: [8,10],
skillReq: ["sub", 5],
value: 7500

"Willing Slave":
name: "Willing Slave",
perkReq: "Subservient", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [0,10], wlpReq: [0,1], ltyReq: [10,10],
skillReq: ["sub", 10],
value: 15000

"Pet":
name: "Pet",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [2,10], wlpReq: [0,8], ltyReq: [2,10],
skillReq: ["pet", 1],
value: 3000

"Submissive Pet":
name: "Submissive Pet",
perkReq: "Pet", traitReq: "none",
sexReq: [2,10], wlpReq: [0,8], ltyReq: [4,10],
skillReq: ["sub", 3],
value: 4500,
bonusPerk: "Submissive", bonusValue: 10000

"Mute":
name: "Mute",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 4500,
bonusPerk: "Submissive", bonusValue: 20000

"Clipped Heels":
name: "Clipped Heels",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 4500,
bonusPerk: "Nymphomaniac", bonusValue: 20000

"Permanent Makeup":
name: "Permanent Makeup",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 4500,
bonusPerk: "Nymphomaniac", bonusValue: 20000

"Augmented Breasts":
name: "Augmented Breasts",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 9000,
bonusPerk: "Nymphomaniac", bonusValue: 20000

"Small Breasts":
name: "Small Breasts",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 3000

"Large Breasts":
name: "Large Breasts",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 3000,
bonusPerk: "Nymphomaniac", bonusValue: 20000

"Feminized Voice":
name: "Feminized Voice",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 4500

"Castrated":
name: "Castrated",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 7500

"Feminized":
name: "Feminized",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 15000,
bonusPerk: "Castrated", bonusValue: 30000

"Pulled Heels":
name: "Pulled Heels",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 13500,
bonusPerk: "Submissive", bonusValue: 20000

"Animal Ears":
name: "Animal Ears",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 15000,
bonusPerk: "Pet", bonusValue: 20000

"Room Slave":
name: "Room Slave",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 0,

"Get Pussy":
name: "Get Pussy",
perkReq: "none", traitReq: "Special",
value: 50000,
Code:
"none":
name: "None",
sex: 0, wlp: 0, lty: 0

"frigid":
name: "Frigid",
sex: -3, wlp: -1, lty: 0,
oral: -5, anal: -5, pussy: -5,
value: -5000

"bratty":
name: "Bratty",
sex: 2, wlp: 3, lty: -3,
value: -2000

"stubborn":
name: "Stubborn",
sex: 0, wlp: 3, lty: -3,
value: -1000

"violent":
name: "Violent",
sex: -2, wlp: 5, lty: -5,
dom: 5, sub: -5,
value: -2500

"timid":
name: "Timid",
sex: -3, wlp: -3, lty: 1,
dom: -5, sub: 5,
value: -1000

"inexperienced":
name: "Inexperienced",
sex: -2, wlp: 2, lty: -2,
oral: -1, anal: -1, pussy: -1,
value: 0

"hypersexual":
name: "Hypersexual",
sex: 3, wlp: -2, lty: -4,
oral: 2, anal: 2, pussy: 2,
value: 10000

"peoplepleaser":
name: "People Pleaser",
sex: -2, wlp: -3, lty: 3,
oral: 2, breasts: 2,
value: 5000

"oraladdict":
name: "Oral Addict",
sex: 1, wlp: -2, lty: 0,
oral: 5, pussy: -3,
value: 10000

"analaddict":
name: "Anal Addict",
sex: 3, wlp: -2, lty: 0,
anal: 5, pussy: -3,
value: 10000

"oralaversion":
name: "Oral Aversion",
oral: -5,
value: -2000

"analaversion":
name: "Anal Aversion",
anal: -5,
value: -2000
Am too lazy for maths, but a slave with sub/nympo/breeding kink + slutty makeup/large breasts sells for a lot without costing too much. Technically fully feminized male slaves with those traits will sell for more but they they are absurdly expensive to make.

Also I thought 3 traits is the limit but there are some that require 3 other traits so I don't know how to get them.
Did anybody figure out how to get more than 3 traits?
 

ghswhshgtr

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guys, how i can start fuck with john, one time i get it very early, now i cant do this in chapter 3. wheres my mistake
 

qwsaq

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guys, how i can start fuck with john, one time i get it very early, now i cant do this in chapter 3. wheres my mistake
You talking about Dom John?
Before you ever dose him, be submissive and suck his dick in the bathroom. Dosing him after should trigger it. You know you got it when you receive the "Johnny Be Bad" achievement.
It's recommended you don't dose Penny either as that can prevent Dom John progress as well.

Any other John related content is just a "normal" serum path.
 

RubyLynnPaxton

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I mean the game kind of lags the further into the story I get. I heard it had something to do with save file size?

Anyway, when do I get to give the Pit Slaves transformatives?

I put out the fix in the discord. There is save bloat because every time an event happens, it is being pushed into the list of unlocked events, regardless of whether they are already in the list or not. Its a simple fix of a few lines, just replacing push with pushUnique.

You can apply it to your own. Fixing the save is more involved so I recommend starting a new game if you apply my fix.
 

qwsaq

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Possibly a stupid question:
Someone mentioned a variant of Dom John if you dosed Penny to be dominant first. When I tried it, Penny would make a passing reference to John's behavior but there was no progression.
Is there currently a way to progress that I'm not aware of?
If not, is it planned?
 

HaseoOfDeath

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Possibly a stupid question:
Someone mentioned a variant of Dom John if you dosed Penny to be dominant first. When I tried it, Penny would make a passing reference to John's behavior but there was no progression.
Is there currently a way to progress that I'm not aware of?
If not, is it planned?
If you Dosed Penny to follow your instructions above all or made her into a Dom, Dom John will NEVER start. That's what the passing mention is for but otherwise it won't ever proceed
 
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Arkanae

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Question for any of you who have played this recently (i.e. in the last year or so): are the endings for Ava complete now?
Westane has been dangling around the Ava and Dakota endings for several years now, so I am waiting until the endings are here to play this again.
 
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rjmm

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I remember the choices for the mother being more modular instead of fixed paths, what happened?
 

HaseoOfDeath

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Question for any of you who have played this recently (i.e. in the last year or so): are the endings for Ava complete now?
Westane has been dangling around the Ava and Dakota endings for several years now, so I am waiting until the endings are here to play this again.
Ava, Tasha, Penny, Diana, Dom John and Dakota are all content complete. They all have MCSX and all of their content is turned on now.

I remember the choices for the mother being more modular instead of fixed paths, what happened?
That still hasn't changed. You still have your Dom Mom and Sub Mom stuff and it spreads out the same way. You'll find more freedom with Ava and Dakota especially because with Dakota you can restart her Dosing if on Love Route and with Ava, you have more endings to work towards in regards to MCSX.
 
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