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Cirdon

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Like another guy pointed out earlier there's some strong sub vibes coming from the MC like the way he keeps passively letting people boss him around and teasing him all the time.
Well, looking at the developer's tags intended in future development

Anal, Ahegao, BDSM(Light), Exhibitionism, Footjob, Group Sex, Incest, Interracial, Lesbian, Masterbation, Pregnancy, Sex Toys, Spanking, Teasing, Titfuck, Virgin, Voyeurism, Romance
Spanking, Anal, and sex toys could imply the MC's getting pegged.

BDSM (light) could imply the MC's getting tortured a bit. Or somebody likes getting restrained and it's consensual. (because after all though in the real world, BDSM is consensual, and non-consensual BDSM is considered torture, in games, if somebody's getting restrained and sexual stuff done to them it's listed as BDSM whether it's consensual or not.)

Voyeurism is implying either we're watching some ladies have some fun, or somebody's watching us have fun.

Side rant: I don't know why interracial is even a tag anymore. Who cares if the people having sex have different colored skin?
 

Heavy Sleeper

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Still, sexual orientation won't change out of necessity. You are what you are. A straight woman won't "turn" bi or lesbian just because she has to have sex with other women to grow her power, like a lesbian wouldn't "turn" straight if she had to have sex with men for the same reason.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. We'll just have to wait and see where's this is going. If it goes full on lesbian focused, I'll just stop playing. No harm done.
the thing is people keep complaining about, while the dev already said that the lesbian stuff could be ignored.
 
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the thing is people keep complaining about, while the dev already said that the lesbian stuff could be ignored.
He said they are going to be skippable, he didn't say anything about their volume, and if every single female character is bisexual and the MC passive as hell, it's not hard to undestrand why someone would be worried that will be the main focus of the game.
 

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Well, looking at the developer's tags intended in future development

Spanking, Anal, and sex toys could imply the MC's getting pegged.

BDSM (light) could imply the MC's getting tortured a bit. Or somebody likes getting restrained and it's consensual. (because after all though in the real world, BDSM is consensual, and non-consensual BDSM is considered torture, in games, if somebody's getting restrained and sexual stuff done to them it's listed as BDSM whether it's consensual or not.)
All that screams "Female Domination" to me and yet this wasn't amongst the planned tags.


Side rant: I don't know why interracial is even a tag anymore. Who cares if the people having sex have different colored skin?
A lot of people. It's a very popular fetish.
 

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Well, looking at the developer's tags intended in future development



Spanking, Anal, and sex toys could imply the MC's getting pegged.

BDSM (light) could imply the MC's getting tortured a bit. Or somebody likes getting restrained and it's consensual. (because after all though in the real world, BDSM is consensual, and non-consensual BDSM is considered torture, in games, if somebody's getting restrained and sexual stuff done to them it's listed as BDSM whether it's consensual or not.)

Voyeurism is implying either we're watching some ladies have some fun, or somebody's watching us have fun.

Side rant: I don't know why interracial is even a tag anymore. Who cares if the people having sex have different colored skin?
All intented tags can also be applied for girls too. Why you are hell bent on assuming this is a sub MC game with lots of female domination? Did dev told you that?
 

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Looks good. Similar to a VN premise I had if I had the slightest notion how to code. lol.

Does it already have the listed sex scenes or are those placeholders for future planned content?
 

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All intented tags can also be applied for girls too. Why you are hell bent on assuming this is a sub MC game with lots of female domination? Did dev told you that?
The Dev didnt' tell me anything. I'm not bent on assuming any such thing.

I'm just saying that it *could* be implied.

And yes, the fact that there is no FemDom tag much more strongly implies it's *not* happening to the MC.
 

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He said they are going to be skippable, he didn't say anything about their volume, and if every single female character is bisexual and the MC passive as hell, it's not hard to undestrand why someone would be worried that will be the main focus of the game.
this is a harem game, why would the dev make a harem game with a male mc where the only thing you can do is watch lesbians? it's the first release of the game, and people come here in flocks hating on the game for that...

Just let the dev prove themselves before running wild with accusation.

This is a setup for a typical Japanese harem game to the "sub mc" trope, not a lesbian game. I get you don't like it, but stop shoving your opinions into the dev throats when on his first release(before an hotfix even) when he already is aware not everybody is into women getting it on with women and gave you the option to skip it.
 
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it's also possible that this games suffers from the idea that the mc has to be super weak before becoming dominate, which is just not true. You don't need to start at -100 to get to a 100, if this game is about a sub mc then it's a non issue but otherwise it just an annoying and tired trend that really shouldn't come up in any story that want to take it self seriously.
If it's any consolation, MCs attitude with his gf before the reveal showed that he was definitely not a weak sub boy.

I'm sure that his current passive attitude is going to be explained as him being overwhelmed by everything going on (fair enough) but I think more internal monologuing could definitely help the reader come to that understanding.

And we start by having his two moms reassuring him that everything is ok, and to just answer the questions asked and all will be explained, so him entering autopilot and do what he's told makes sense. Again, more monologue could help here.

And I also think the author may have underestimated how visceral some readers' reactions to the mind wipe reveal would be. For him, it may have been just a simple explanation as to how and why the MC never knew about the world of magic growing up, even though he lived in a house with 5 witches.

To some of us, though, the mind manipulation is a complete destruction of any and all trust that the MC is supposed to have in his mothers, and his sisters too if they knew of it and allowed it to happen.

There is nothing about his memory or feelings that he can trust are his own as opposed to what was put there by these witches. Every assumption he has must be questioned. Are they really his family? What else are they hiding? Does he actually love them, or are they making him love them?

And it'll all come down to them saying "We just erased a few memories to keep you safe. Trust us."

Anyways, I'm very interested to see how the dev deals with this. I expect, though I hope against it, that he will just handwave it and move on with the story.

Personally I would love to see MC get back all of the memories that were taken from him, with a quick montage of all the cool stuff that he witnessed over the years, and then have wards put on his mind so that nothing like this could ever be done again.

If it turns out his mothers did this with the knowledge that it could all be reversed if he ever showed magical aptitude, it would go a very long way at reestablishing the trust that right now just does not exist.

I may be totally overthinking this, but for me that's the danger of the mind manipulation rabbit hole.
 

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That's still doesn't make "every girl is a bi" logic. There may be some girls who hate this bi culture but still doing it becoz of their witch tradition and surivial. If dev shown every girl is happy being a bi, than thats just porn logic and unrealistic. I know this is fantasy game and thats makes it unreal too. But, i'm just saying just because they are witch and energy transfer possible only by girls, doesn't absolutely mean they "want" it. They just need it.
Gay for the stay, bro. Lol
 
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this is a harem game, why would the dev make a harem game with a male mc where the only thing you can do is watch lesbians? it's the first release of the game, and people come here in flocks hating on the game for that...

Just let the dev prove themselves before running wild with accusation.

This is a setup for a typical Japanese harem game to the "sub mc" trope, not a lesbian game. I get you don't like it, but stop shoving your opinions into the dev throats when on his first release(before an hotfix even) he already is aware not everybody is into women getting it on with women.
Calm down man. No one is shoving his opinion into anyone's throat, no one accuses anyone, about anything and no one is hating on the game! How on earth can random people talking to each other on a pirate site be any of those things? The whole point of these threads is to write our thoughts about the games! That's what we're doing.
 
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If it's any consolation, MCs attitude with his gf before the reveal showed that he was definitely not a weak sub boy.

I'm sure that his current passive attitude is going to be explained as him being overwhelmed by everything going on (fair enough) but I think more internal monologuing could definitely help the reader come to that understanding.

And we start by having his two moms reassuring him that everything is ok, and to just answer the questions asked and all will be explained, so him entering autopilot and do what he's told makes sense. Again, more monologue could help here.

And I also think the author may have underestimated how visceral some readers' reactions to the mind wipe reveal would be. For him, it may have been just a simple explanation as to how and why the MC never knew about the world of magic growing up, even though he lived in a house with 5 witches.

To so of us, though, the mind manipulation is a complete destruction of any and all trust that the MC is supposed to have in his mothers, and his sisters too if they knew of it and allowed it to happen.

There is nothing about his memory or feelings that he can trust are his own as opposed to what was out there by these witches. Every assumption he has must be questioned. Are they really his family? What else are they hiding? Does he actually love them, or are they making him love them?

And it'll all come down to them saying "We just erased a few memories to keep you safe. Trust us."

Anyways, I'm very interested to see how the dev deals with this. I expect, though I hope against it, that he will just handwave it and move on with the story.

Personally I would love to see MC get back all of the memories that were taken from him, with a quick montage of all the cool stuff that he witnessed over the years, and then have wards put on his mind so that nothing like this could ever be done again.

If it turns out his mothers did this with the knowledge that it could all be reversed if he ever showed magical aptitude, it would go a very long way at reestablishing the trust that right now just does not exist.

I may be totally overthinking this, but for me that's the danger of the mind manipulation rabbit hole.
that's why I don't really like reading too much into a first release, sure it show us some plots but I've seen so many games change a lot from 1 release to another. And with every first release there are people who act like it's the end of the world if there is one thing they don't like.

He might be passive because of that, or the story doesn't even try to delve too much into peoples emotions and it will just be a very light hearted story.

I don't mind lesbians, but I do prefer the mc to be involved obviously but this is the first release and the first time the mc came into the school, I don't expect him to start banging every teacher and student. As much as he needs to get use to the world, they need to get use to him.

But jumping to conclusion of how the game is going to be by it first release, feels crazy to me. Obviously other peoples have different approaches, but I like to see more content before I can really delve into what the game is.
 
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Cirdon

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I may be totally overthinking this, but for me that's the danger of the mind manipulation rabbit hole.
Of overthink is kinda my thing too.

"You see magic is not something nonmagical people ever expect to see so they can be very open to suggestion"

"Often they just think it is their eyes playing tricks on them"
The fact they had to adjust his memories numerous times implies to me that he didn't think his eyes were playing tricks on him, so he wasn't a nonmagical person, perhaps an early sign his mother's knew he had magic but ignored because he was male.

And the interrupted "And" also indicates there were other times his memory had to be altered other than when his sisters started manifesting their abilities. That's gonna come back.
 

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If it's any consolation, MCs attitude with his gf before the reveal showed that he was definitely not a weak sub boy.

I'm sure that his current passive attitude is going to be explained as him being overwhelmed by everything going on (fair enough) but I think more internal monologuing could definitely help the reader come to that understanding.

And we start by having his two moms reassuring him that everything is ok, and to just answer the questions asked and all will be explained, so him entering autopilot and do what he's told makes sense. Again, more monologue could help here.

And I also think the author may have underestimated how visceral some readers' reactions to the mind wipe reveal would be. For him, it may have been just a simple explanation as to how and why the MC never knew about the world of magic growing up, even though he lived in a house with 5 witches.

To so of us, though, the mind manipulation is a complete destruction of any and all trust that the MC is supposed to have in his mothers, and his sisters too if they knew of it and allowed it to happen.

There is nothing about his memory or feelings that he can trust are his own as opposed to what was out there by these witches. Every assumption he has must be questioned. Are they really his family? What else are they hiding? Does he actually love them, or are they making him love them?

And it'll all come down to them saying "We just erased a few memories to keep you safe. Trust us."

Anyways, I'm very interested to see how the dev deals with this. I expect, though I hope against it, that he will just handwave it and move on with the story.

Personally I would love to see MC get back all of the memories that were taken from him, with a quick montage of all the cool stuff that he witnessed over the years, and then have wards put on his mind so that nothing like this could ever be done again.

If it turns out his mothers did this with the knowledge that it could all be reversed if he ever showed magical aptitude, it would go a very long way at reestablishing the trust that right now just does not exist.

I may be totally overthinking this, but for me that's the danger of the mind manipulation rabbit hole.
At the end of the day It all comes down to the dev's skills in telling his story. It has a solid premise with great opportunities for drama, backstabbings, discoveries and whatnot, but we can't have the MC acting like so emotionless and thoughtless forever
 

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Calm down man. No one is shoving his opinion into anyone's throat, no one accuses anyone, about anything and no one is hating on the game! How on earth can random people talking to each other on a pirate site be any of those things? The whole point of these threads is to write our thoughts about the games! That's what we're doing.
You are right, I used harsher words then I should have. But people are assuming a lot about the game from the first release.

Seen as I don't really care if the girls stay together in harem games(or just have fun with other girls before they are in the harem), it's a bit harder for me to completely see your point of view but I get the feeling of a true harem when you are the king(like WVM).

Sorry for coming off antagonistic, but I do believe that first release really don't mean a lot in the grand scheme of the game.
 
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Does any body else feels confused like who the mc birth dad or where he is or still alive or the part where the mc found out he was mind fuck like if that was me i be loosing my shit asking my self am i real is my family real if they could do that what else they did to me shit am i dreaming right now things like that but no the mc go along with it for all we know they could be controlling him.
 

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Gorgeous Renders, interesting premise, and a harem of sexy girls in stockings?
you son of a bitch, i'm in.jpg Too!
 
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