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I don't trust this dev anymore. Even if he doesn't add past scenes he will add shitty LIs or other objectional contents for sure. It's his true calling.
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Gotta love overviews that are about blowing smoke up your ass rather than tell you what the game is about. No red flags there at all.
What the fuck is he thinking?A sexual scene with several characters 1000s of years into the past that involves one of the girls? Sure I'd be down to watch one of the potential LIs and apparent face of the game have a scene dedicated to getting dicked down by characters that aren't the MC. /s
What an utter disappointment. Even if the dev is unsure, the fact that it crossed their mind doesn't bode well.
. I mean sure, shit happens before you meet someone but you normally don't know about it, let alone be shown in HD and with full animations , and thats the main LI that will be forced and with MC all game? Did the dev got shown a video gangbang of his wife or something and thinks that's normal? I can't get my head around why anyone would think of adding such scenes in a supposed non ntr game, but devs always surprise me with new bullshit every day.
Guess this one goes on ignore as well
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Nvm, he discarded the idea apparently, but he just planning that shit is a red flag, and changing his mind so quickly as well, so I'll just ignore it anyway. Plus berserk as inspiration isn't a good sign either
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So, wasn't really gonna pay this game any mind but decided to read the comments.
You guys really, REALLY need to chill down with being literal cucks. I'm sorry, but that's what I feel like when reading some of the comments.
To begin with, I don't think there's a problem with having characters fuck around, that's not even what NTR means.
NTR only happens when the character is someone "you appreciate" like the main character's girlfriend or someone in the main character's harem, and they fuck around.
Complaining about a character fucking someone else 1000 years in the past is like complaining for NTR because a woman you're fucking with has sexual experience.
So, what, do you want every woman you meet to be a virgin whom has never comitted sin or had sex? Get the fuck out of here, you have the actual perfect attitude of a cuck "Nooooooo but she's miiiiiiine ñehehehehehe"
By your(Dumb) logic, if the hottest porn actress that you like the most came to ask you to fuck, or idono, the OF girl or dude you like the most, asked you to fuck, you'd be NTR'd because you "know" she's fucked around with other dudes. Sorry, but the world doesn't work that way, not in fantasy, and not in reality, people have lives before they meet you. xD
You guys really, REALLY need to chill down with being literal cucks. I'm sorry, but that's what I feel like when reading some of the comments.
To begin with, I don't think there's a problem with having characters fuck around, that's not even what NTR means.
NTR only happens when the character is someone "you appreciate" like the main character's girlfriend or someone in the main character's harem, and they fuck around.
Complaining about a character fucking someone else 1000 years in the past is like complaining for NTR because a woman you're fucking with has sexual experience.
So, what, do you want every woman you meet to be a virgin whom has never comitted sin or had sex? Get the fuck out of here, you have the actual perfect attitude of a cuck "Nooooooo but she's miiiiiiine ñehehehehehe"
By your(Dumb) logic, if the hottest porn actress that you like the most came to ask you to fuck, or idono, the OF girl or dude you like the most, asked you to fuck, you'd be NTR'd because you "know" she's fucked around with other dudes. Sorry, but the world doesn't work that way, not in fantasy, and not in reality, people have lives before they meet you. xD
I am so confused was there not a game with this exact title. I mean I literally have automatic saves in the game of a game and I feel like i've played this but I installed the game and it just seems to be a very small demo? Just genuinely confused lol
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Nah, your logic doesn't fly. Dev was planning on showing a LI get fucked by others in game. That'd be like watching an old vid of your gf getting fucked by her previous bf. That's cuck shit dude.
Edit - Dev liking your comment is a huge red flag.
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I digress.
The girls are NOT your girlfriends, the girls are part of your harem. This is a very different thing, to begin with, people with harems often ordered their girls to fuck other people in negotiations. This is actual literal history, don't dare even deny this.
But sure, let's say you "love each and every one of your harem girls as a girlfriend", the Dev is showing you the PAST. Your "That's cuck shit because it's watching her old bf fuck her" doesn't make any sense, because it's never implied that she's gonna do it with her old BF, and NOT ONLY THIS, but YOU ARE NOT the main character of the story, go touch grass. You're a person pressing click on a mouse to watch porn scenes.
"But it breaks my immersion" well, it shouldn't. THE CHARACTER YOU ARE CONTROLLING(Who is NOT you), never sees said porn, that is shown to you for your own leisure only, so this is NOT cucking in any way, shape, or form...You're just weak enough that anything threatens your masculinity.
I don't know the Dev themselves, but if they liked my comment it's because he doesn't like being raged by people who don't even know what NTR is.
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I don't know dude what's your problem but you can't make us to see that girl getting fucked even if it happened in the past.
It's great that you like to see such scenes. Dev should make the type of game he wants and it's upto people if they want to support him or not. It's a forum and we have the rights to express our opinion. Now it's upto the dev if he wants to listen to our suggestions or go ahead with his plan.
Harem/Romance players don't enjoy seeing their girl getting fucked. We don't give any flying fuck if it happened in the past or some other reality or whatever. Sorry to break it to you but it's cuck shit if you like to see LIs getting fucked.
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I haven't seen anyone actually calling the (now nonexistent) scene in question NTR. Neither here nor over on Itch (maybe someone did before the edits to the page?). And you are correct it does not fit the tag, but it also clashes with the expectation of the general Harem genre an people voicing their dislike.
The problem is not sexual experience (expect for those virgin extremists). The objection is to showing or explicitly telling about it.
Well, yes. Harem players generally would not like someone from the porn industry as an LI. It would not be called NTR unless she keeps working after meeting the MC tho.
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Bro, harems in history were all about power dynamics, not romance. The whole ordering girls to do stuff with others was a political move, not some romantic situation, bringing up ancient harem practices to justify a modern game's choices is a bit of a stretch, also, people were drinking animal piss to heal in the past, should we do the same now ? Your post does not take in consideration that a VN game is played by a player. It's not a movie or anime that you are just watching, or a book that you are reading.
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The only thing I need to reply to you is I don't care for these scenes; I don't see my "harem" threatened for it, and I don't see it being a special turn on, I just quite literally don't care, it's just porn and storytelling.
See, at least someone actually tries to discuss in a civilised manner. Thanks for that.
Answering your counterpoints, so to speak, it is actually called an NTR scene, right in the second page. Not only this, but the whole topic of this discussion revolves NTR and cucking, which none of are happening at all(Prior to the "removal" of the infamous scene).
In itch someone did also mention NTR, but that's besides the point.
I understand your point, but I don't think it should affect in any way that you as a "conductor" of a character THAT IS NOT YOU, you are NOT allowed to name him either, see a scene that -the character you are playing- does not see. It is fully incorrect to call this cucking or NTR in any way, and people here are talking about it like it's the biggest betrayal in anime.
Now I will tell you something funny: Now you know that girl slept with that certain character, even if you will not see it. So what did you gain from that? Just...Not seeing the context of it and just being told?
At no point I said we should imitate what people in history does, you are taking this FULLY out of context. I am merely using the actual examples we have of harems in history, which is what this topic is about. They also did use bloodletting in the past to "heal anything", but is there any bloodletting being spoken about in this topic? No, there isn't. There is HAREM, though.
Yes, this is played by you as a player, and what YOU see, your character does not always see. Do you not see in God of War for example, the perspective of other characters... Many times? It's called storytelling. Sometimes the game needs YOU(The player) to know something in order for some things to make sense for YOU, even if they don't for the character.
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If I were you, I wouldn't talk to a NTR dreamer.
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Well that is the biggest appeal of the VN with a single MC. Taking the role of said MC and shaping the story. (As in any game with a role playing facet which often include character creation aswell to better emerse in your character. Fallout etc.)
It is the difference between reading a book / watching a movie or series about character.
As I said that would be objected to. That is information not wanted and if not given not existent (as in neither the MC nor the player knows that fact and therefore it might as well not had happened)
Sorry but no one cares about semantics, technicalities or definitions.
Just because something doesn't fit the silly ntr definition you or anyone uses here doesn't mean a content isn't meant for cucks or you cant call it cuck content and thus dislike it.
Showing the main LI of a supposed romance/harem game getting fucked is a bad idea and it IS cuck, only a ntr fan would enjoy seeing that.
And btw, this is not reality chief. This is a story, you have to be some next level autistic to try to argue with that. Not to mention that even in real life, you dont see your girl getting fucked even if she had previous relationships, or maybe YOU do, but normal people dont. So no reason to show it in a game either.
If you want to be waste time and compare it to real-life it would be like going on a date with someone and while waiting for them to arrive, the tv at the restaurant starts showing her getting fucked again and again, and now you wouldn't be as excited for the date right? Or maybe YOU would, again, dont assume your opinion is that of normal people.
And also we are talking about relationships here, thats what most of these games are supposed to show, not random fuck, so your example with pornstars/onlyfans whores is also a waste of time.
You'd have to be re--- "very silly" to want a relationship with women like that and you certainly wouldn't have them as a main LI of a romance game right??? At least not a non ntr game which is the point people are arguing.
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Ahh we have have the usual suspects ( and the dev) with their "its not exactly/not technically/not entirely NtR"
Always using the same excuse, I imagine this same scenario as some mentally challenged individual that just came out of a mental institution and starts throwing shit at people:
"You sicko, whyd you throw human feces at me"
" AcKchYuallLy it is not human shit, it is cow manure, learn the difference"
Of course in that case at least they have an excuse on why they miss the point and are not doing it on purpose like the ones here.
) with their "its not exactly/not technically/not entirely NtR"Always using the same excuse, I imagine this same scenario as some mentally challenged individual that just came out of a mental institution and starts throwing shit at people:
"You sicko, whyd you throw human feces at me"
" AcKchYuallLy it is not human shit, it is cow manure, learn the difference
"Of course in that case at least they have an excuse on why they miss the point and are not doing it on purpose like the ones here.
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