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All very good points, in my opinion.
The shower scene with Claire also bothered me. Shower sex is so-so in the best of cases but for a first time it absolutely won't do.
Regarding Kathy's lack of a hymen, I think it's implied that she sleep raped the MC. I didn't like it either but I guess it does fit her personality in a way.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Red sleeping until 3pm has something to do with it. Maybe she got annoyed with Claire jumping ahead.
Edit: the sad thing is, Red entirely lost the high road. how would he admonish Kathy for having sleep sex with him, when she wakes up with his tongue on her clit. He's there for his pleasure, to use her, so how could he be opposed to the daughters using him?
Thinking about 0.07 some more, I have the impression that it was written with an eagle eye focus on this ending. Shaddy has already proven that he can tell stories and develop characters. This focus on the ending is all I can think of to explain Red's weird behavior and ignoring player choice.
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This VN is what you get when you have a person minding the details.
Everything from plenty of menu options, to interesting models, to scenes where a lot of things happen in the background!
The 'secret/hidden/subtle' stuff often happening in the background is just amazing and highly appreciated! I can understand VN authors don't feel it is worth it to put these details in, but rest assured there are people like me who really notice them!
This VN is what you get when you have a person minding the details.
Everything from plenty of menu options, to interesting models, to scenes where a lot of things happen in the background!
The 'secret/hidden/subtle' stuff often happening in the background is just amazing and highly appreciated! I can understand VN authors don't feel it is worth it to put these details in, but rest assured there are people like me who really notice them!
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Being one of those who experienced some of these issues (I only had the weird alignment and dragging thing, none of the overlapping stuff), it triggered my OCD enough to try and see if I could improve on it.
It's not pixel perfect, but it works for me, and despite what some others mentioned about overlapping. I've also tried switching to the other supported fonts and I haven't seen any overlapping, neither in the options nor in load and save screens.
Just a thought with regard to the overlapping, I've had some font issues in the past (totally not related to VN's) where it turned out to be caused by having the same font installed in the default system fonts folder, which turned out to be an older version.
I do have one other little annoyance, the sliders that allow you to 'align' the character name and dialogue text. For the name it works great, but the dialogue keeps jumping left and right, so it never stays fixed relative to the displayed name. it looks like it gets displayed centered relative to a non-visible point. That only happens when one character is speaking, but never when
multiple (x) is usedGot the same error when turning off colored names. Got around it by rolling back a few screens and hitting ignore.
"play it again, Sam"
You seem to have missed something, When Veronica said she was 30 minutes early, she also mentioned that she wanted Isabel to stay longer, since they never specified what for, it could very well account for the extra time. Plus, Kathy said she ran into Isabel and learned that they were down four people, so it likely wasn't just the one yoga class Isabel did, which would explain why she didn't return with them. And as for "almost lunchtime", first, they never specified how long they spent in the sauna, so it could have been just as easily an hour, add to that shower time, changing and driving home, which could account for another hour, which means they could well have gotten home anywhere from 10 to 11... given they were up at the crack of dawn, lunch time may be earlier for them as for those of us who like to sleep in on saturdays.
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I don't know how this happens. I downloaded the game. I didn't delete the old version, so both directories were on the hard drive. Of course, I started playing from the beginning. There were no problems or errors.
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No, that's not what I was talking about.
Veronica said that Izzy was half an hour early, which means they arrived at 5:30am(!), since she was scheduled to start at 6.
When Red returns home to the twins, they remark that it's almost lunchtime, meaning anywhere between 11am and noon. Izzy came home later that evening, after having worked a 12-ish hour shift.
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In the sauna for an hour? That's crazy. My half an hour was already a stretch, usually people use it for 10-15 minutes.
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That's the whole point, for you, lunchtime means anywhere between 11 and noon, but I also am sure you're not up at 5:30... if you were, you'll like will have lunch earlier than that. So, for them it could just be normal to have lunch at 11, and even if they got home between say 9:30 to 10:30, we don't know how long it took for them to drive home, traffic might have been hell. And "almost lunchtime" could still mean one to two hours later.
Just chalk it up to artistic freedom, the scenario is already not realistic, so who cares about an hour of 'lost time'
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Neither is the family, usually. In 0.06 Red asked if Izzy wanted him to drive her to work, she declined and said she'd take the bus, because it was too early.
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mc "Oh! By the way, {isan}, did you contact {cc=ver}[ver]{/cc} at the gym to get added to the schedule? Assuming you still want to work there."
isa "Mmhmm. I did it while you were gone. I work Thursday after school and Saturday at 6 a.m. this week."
mc "Ooof. That's early. I guess that means you won't be working out with us?"
isa "Uh-uh."
mc "Want me to get up and drive you?"
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So? They changed their mind and got up at the same time anyways. Like I said, artistic freedom...
Let's be honest, the whole situation is already farfetched, so what does a little time shift matter.
But I'll give you this... a gym being open around that time... it's stretching things a bit far indeed.
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The thing is, someone's habits determine when it's lunchtime, something you tried to argue earlier. It's clear it's not their habit to get up at the crack of dawn on a Saturday. I do find it interesting that you were trying to argue this point, when you could've said "artistic freedom" right from the start.
For me, it matters because it speaks to Red's character. Waking everyone up before 5a.m., including the twins because he forgot about Olivia, is worse than when he does the same at 9 or 10a.m. Waking up this early is a special occasion, it required some planning. Forgetting about Olivia makes him look inconsiderate, or at the least scatterbrained. On the other hand, if it's just a Saturday morning like any other, then I'd be much more forgiving of him not accounting for Olivia's sprain because he'd just be doing what he always does.
This is why I suggested changing Izzy's shift to start at 8a.m. in 0.06. It's more reasonable. Another reason is that the early morning never comes into play. Nobody is yawning or still tired, nobody is complaining about the time, or that it's still dark and cold outside. If we hadn't known Izzy's shift would start at 6, then we probably would've imagined they were at the gym around 10, and wouldn't have thought anything of it.
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I think you just made the first ever reasonable agrument in favor of sandbox games!The thing is, someone's habits determine when it's lunchtime, something you tried to argue earlier. It's clear it's not their habit to get up at the crack of dawn on a Saturday. I do find it interesting that you were trying to argue this point, when you could've said "artistic freedom" right from the start.
For me, it matters because it speaks to Red's character. Waking everyone up before 5a.m., including the twins because he forgot about Olivia, is worse than when he does the same at 9 or 10a.m. Waking up this early is a special occasion, it required some planning. Forgetting about Olivia makes him look inconsiderate, or at the least scatterbrained. On the other hand, if it's just a Saturday morning like any other, then I'd be much more forgiving of him not accounting for Olivia's sprain because he'd just be doing what he always does.
This is why I suggested changing Izzy's shift to start at 8a.m. in 0.06. It's more reasonable. Another reason is that the early morning never comes into play. Nobody is yawning or still tired, nobody is complaining about the time, or that it's still dark and cold outside. If we hadn't known Izzy's shift would start at 6, then we probably would've imagined they were at the gym around 10, and wouldn't have thought anything of it.
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To be honest I'd completely forgotten she said 6 a.m. I've changed it to 8 as suggested.
As to your other points Quetzzz. I didn't really think ahead about people NOT choosing to do things with the girls. I may go back at a later time to make corrections for people who refuse everything, but for now I want to move the story forward. That being said, I will keep that in mind for upcoming situations.
To be honest I'd completely forgotten she said 6 a.m. I've changed it to 8 as suggested.
As to your other points Quetzzz. I didn't really think ahead about people NOT choosing to do things with the girls. I may go back at a later time to make corrections for people who refuse everything, but for now I want to move the story forward. That being said, I will keep that in mind for upcoming situations.
I agree, but the scene was inspired by a situation I went through with an ex-girlfriend I had in my teens the first time I stayed over when her parents weren't home (and never found out about, hehe). Yes it was uncomfortable for her, but she was concerned about having to clean up afterwards having been told about possibly bleeding by friends.
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I just wanted to add that I do play through both paths. I just think that the choices where Red is reluctant and unsure add more characterization and nuance. It's a version of Red where he puts the wellbeing of his daughters ahead of his lust. He takes no joy in declining their intimacy, he just wants to make sure he's doing the right thing... Something his thoughts often show.
For the Red we saw in 0.07, I'm almost hoping he was drugged with something that inhibited his critical thinking. I'm not saying this to insult, just that it could retroactively explain why he showed so little maturity while on the grey-choices path. On the green-choices path there's no real issue, since all intimacy was established, and more conversations were had. Seeing more of his lustful side makes sense since all brakes are off.