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Cartageno

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Someone left a comment here claiming to have spoken with the developer. There’s no reason not to believe them, right? :HideThePain:
Indeed there isn't. If you look through this thread you will find that JJJ and Hopes have good rapport and obviously contact with each other outside this forum.

Now, does that mean that everything reported this way will come to fruition? Not automatically. However, there is indeed no reason to doubt that they talked about what JJJ said.
 

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Indeed there isn't. If you look through this thread you will find that JJJ and Hopes have good rapport and obviously contact with each other outside this forum.

Now, does that mean that everything reported this way will come to fruition? Not automatically. However, there is indeed no reason to doubt that they talked about what JJJ said.
The thing is the dev can tell JJJ whatever he wants in theory, how is anyone supposed to "fact check" anything at all. We only see the result which is a entirely fucked up development speed since the dev claimed to go full time and released on steam.

And even the statements JJJ more or less quoted here didnt seemed to committed to any kind of hard facts. Nobody knows anything at all about the current render count or comparable things of the current update status and the dev isnt stateing them unlike most other devs.

"He is working on it" could mean anything, maybe he produces 1 render/month, nobody knows.

I struggle to comprehend how anyone can defend this kind of buisness practice (and it is a buisness since the steam release), any early access game dev would be rightfully cursed already with such a lack of updates and communication at the same time.

I mean it is whatever, we can only hope that he finds the drive to get back to developing this avn at a somewhat reasonable speed at some point but blindly defending this practice and attacking everyone who states to be annoyed about it, is kinda dumb imo
 

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The thing is the dev can tell JJJ whatever he wants in theory, how is anyone supposed to "fact check" anything at all. We only see the result which is a entirely fucked up development speed since the dev claimed to go full time and released on steam.

And even the statements JJJ more or less quoted here didnt seemed to committed to any kind of hard facts. Nobody knows anything at all about the current render count or comparable things of the current update status and the dev isnt stateing them unlike most other devs.

"He is working on it" could mean anything, maybe he produces 1 render/month, nobody knows.

I struggle to comprehend how anyone can defend this kind of buisness practice (and it is a buisness since the steam release), any early access game dev would be rightfully cursed already with such a lack of updates and communication at the same time.

I mean it is whatever, we can only hope that he finds the drive to get back to developing this avn at a somewhat reasonable speed at some point but blindly defending this practice and attacking everyone who states to be annoyed about it, is kinda dumb imo
As I said, we don't know. I was just reacting to the topic of "can we believe JJJ that he speaks with Hopes", and on that I am pretty positive. What will come out of this game for real is a completely different question I cannot address.
 
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JJJ84

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Indeed there isn't. If you look through this thread you will find that JJJ and Hopes have good rapport and obviously contact with each other outside this forum.

Now, does that mean that everything reported this way will come to fruition? Not automatically. However, there is indeed no reason to doubt that they talked about what JJJ said.
As I said, we don't know. I was just reacting to the topic of "can we believe JJJ that he speaks with Hopes", and on that I am pretty positive. What will come out of this game for real is a completely different question I cannot address.
Tbh, I really pay no attention whether the doubters believe me or not, heh :KEK:

But (for those asking for proof) I do have a track record of being in touch with Hopes through discord DMs which I more often than not provide screenshots of (unless Hopes asks me to not say anything), so that pretty much speaks for itself.

The thing is the dev can tell JJJ whatever he wants in theory, how is anyone supposed to "fact check" anything at all. We only see the result which is a entirely fucked up development speed since the dev claimed to go full time and released on steam.

And even the statements JJJ more or less quoted here didnt seemed to committed to any kind of hard facts. Nobody knows anything at all about the current render count or comparable things of the current update status and the dev isnt stateing them unlike most other devs.

"He is working on it" could mean anything, maybe he produces 1 render/month, nobody knows.

I struggle to comprehend how anyone can defend this kind of buisness practice (and it is a buisness since the steam release), any early access game dev would be rightfully cursed already with such a lack of updates and communication at the same time.

I mean it is whatever, we can only hope that he finds the drive to get back to developing this avn at a somewhat reasonable speed at some point but blindly defending this practice and attacking everyone who states to be annoyed about it, is kinda dumb imo
Any news I give could vary from being definitive (if it's something which becomes official, in which Hopes gave me permission to share here) or not.
But honestly, it's more of Hopes and I being in touch and for me to reassure to folks that the game is not abandoned & Hopes is still working on it - especially at times devs just disappear and fans are wondering what is even going on.

And no, even I don't know how much he has done for that matter.
If anybody's expecting that from me, lol let me save those people time and say "Don't even bother reading my posts if that's the main reason."
Not to mention that I don't mean any offence to you or anyone whose main focus is the hard facts with the renders numbers, but I just find it unhealthy (for me at least lol) to focus so much on that at this point.

Hopes will come back and resume his proper schedule when he's ready.
Until then, I'll put my focus to other AVNs and other games.
 

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so sad to see this abandoned tag on this awesome game.... wanna continue this great story.. and see my Luna again:love::cry:
 

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so sad to see this abandoned tag on this awesome game.... wanna continue this great story.. and see my Luna again:love::cry:
the game is actually finished, season 1 its the final version. I think they just didn't bothered to actually update its status to completed.

We are already waiting for season 2, or at least I assumed so.

Any news on that front???
 

JJJ84

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the game is actually finished, season 1 its the final version. I think they just didn't bothered to actually update its status to completed.

We are already waiting for season 2, or at least I assumed so.

Any news on that front???
While in terms of the main storyline season 1 is complete, current version of season 1 is not the final version.
Hopes still has some plans of content to add in (while I kind of am aware of of what it is, I won't say).

And as for the whole status update, that is actually dependent on whether each season will have separate game thread or not.
That actually depends on the dev (Hopes) and the moderator (if the dev isn't the thread creator).

Some games have separate threads for each sequel/followup.
But several games actually just has all its seasons in one thread as well.
 

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While in terms of the main storyline season 1 is complete, current version of season 1 is not the final version.
Hopes still has some plans of content to add in (while I kind of am aware of of what it is, I won't say).

And as for the whole status update, that is actually dependent on whether each season will have separate game thread or not.
That actually depends on the dev (Hopes) and the moderator (if the dev isn't the thread creator).

Some games have separate threads for each sequel/followup.
But several games actually just has all its seasons in one thread as well.
The town sandbox still needs to get fixed, too, right?
 
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I miss the town freeroam, it had it's moments. The three sisters were the highlight of it for sure, but I also liked it for the extra info and foreshadowing in it.
Agreed. There's so much background worldbuilding that I want to know it all. Reading in the Codex is okay, but I want to see it in the world. Plus, they're all hints as to what's going on to cause all this shit.
 
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Agreed. There's so much background worldbuilding that I want to know it all. Reading in the Codex is okay, but I want to see it in the world. Plus, they're all hints as to what's going on to cause all this shit.
Yup, I remember MC commenting on a few abandoned buildings that were in extreme disrepair, stark contrast from rest of town, I have been so looking forward to seeing what thats about, then there is the cemetery stuff as well, and I was looking forward to having another tea with lady cordia.
 
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I really want to see more development between MC and my mother, what a shame
MC's mother is dead. MC's father is not. If you mean Cordia, she's a former friend/associate to the dead mother, though they had a violent falling out. The mother was part of the family, one of the first Four Serpents, and they made up the initial "family." They were not blood related, though, and I believe they were paired up romantically until the explosive betrayals...
 
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MC's mother is dead. MC's father is not. If you mean Cordia, she's a former friend/associate to the dead mother, though they had a violent falling out. The mother was part of the family, one of the first Four Serpents, and they made up the initial "family." They were not blood related, though, and I believe they were paired up romantically until the explosive betrayals...
Yes, Cordia looks mature and beautiful, I hope the second season can have her and MC combined...
 
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