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Heya,

I got the Lock glasses from the old man, but now, each time I return to find him again, he's not here anymore, just the dog.
It's not the Old man who're giving you the Hardened Gloves ?

Thank you, I have pleasure to collect these items, I'm almost at the level of an Avenger
The old man is a one-time thing. Planning to add him secret other places. But for now, he is gone.
The old man gives the lock glasses. The gloves are from the battle.
 
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Toram Eldin

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HopesGaming

Heya,

I got the Lock glasses from the old man, but now, each time I return to find him again, he's not here anymore, just the dog.
It's not the Old man who're giving you the Hardened Gloves ?

Thank you, I have pleasure to collect these items, I'm almost at the level of an Avenger
From what they said earlier, you have to get them by having a good enough score in the fight.
 
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Hi!

Currently at the umbra mission right now and i keep failing the perception requirement, and since i have all the drops from contract except for the holy pants, i figure that i needed to get it. So, anyone knows how to get it? I keep repeating the mission but i just couldn't get it.
 

Toram Eldin

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Hi!

Currently at the umbra mission right now and i keep failing the perception requirement, and since i have all the drops from contract except for the holy pants, i figure that i needed to get it. So, anyone knows how to get it? I keep repeating the mission but i just couldn't get it.
I wrote the answer here a few pages back.

The way I got them was set up the flag then leave and go back to the church. When you get there "explore" and when the little scene is done is when I picked them up. Worked two different times.
 

Cartageno

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Phew, quite a lot to read, I shouldn't have done silly things such as sleep and work ...

I love the last version of Deluca Family, it is in my top 5 out of hundreds of games I've played here. However, I really can't stand grinding for content. In my younger days I could play classic RPGs for weeks straight, but I have a lot less patience for that now, and with VNs, content is king, really, so obscuring content behind repetitive gameplay, really takes all the enjoyment out of it as a player, for me at least.
Just to counter this point (has been made multiple times, but I can only counter one opinion and chose one constructive one) while I want some content, I also prefer some gameplay - hence why I can't stand Kinetic Novels.

So in general I like the new system, brings back fond memories of the olden times and works pretty well, it is obvious how much love and creativity has gone into it. A few kinks here and there could optimize it but with CTRL skipping a possibility a mission doesn't take too long if just repeated for some XP or similar. I do think though that the first mission should be more easing in - either slightly change it or make an eaven easier, so that you can get accustomed to walking around and exploring and testing without failing most tests. As it stands, the first experience is more likely to fail than not because players still don't know what they are doing, don't know the map, and will stumble into the wrong things. Give MC a contract with somebody experienced who will explain "recreation areas", and maybe some indication on whether or not something is likely to fail. But it is - to me - a major improvement on the one click contracts which did not have any feel about them at all.

However, I feel that in the long run this can become very grindy if we need a lot of money for stuff or a lot of experience to advance the story. If I remember how often I spent a day at Wilfred's with three "daylight" and one "nighttime" mission CTRL skipping to get the money for item X, I dread doing the same in this system a bit, although I am not advanced enough to truly judge the balancing so far.

Another aspect that I think hasn't been mentioned are the character portraits to know where to find somebody: great addition, the drawings look great, however in my opinion the comic style clashes with the general graphics and very distinguished look (especially post update) of the interface and just doesn't gel. Pics from renders would be more boring but IMO also less intrusive.
 

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HopesGaming I'm sorry to ask you this again but for the new things you've put up that are great especially the contracts I'm a Frenchman who has trouble with English so I can't do the new missions until I get an answer.
 

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well
i have a question that bothers me all the time ...
the picture at the mc bedroomwall - whats the /or is there a/ deeper meaning
the room is at light colors except this picture
 

Toram Eldin

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Not a big problem or anything, and not sure if this is just an oversight or some such thing, but when going to talk to Wilfred about Luna's knife, the talk option was greyed out, but when I clicked on it the thing about Luna's knife was there and lit up as well as the part about him wanting to talk to the MC.


Another aspect that I think hasn't been mentioned are the character portraits to know where to find somebody: great addition, the drawings look great, however in my opinion the comic style clashes with the general graphics and very distinguished look (especially post update) of the interface and just doesn't gel. Pics from renders would be more boring but IMO also less intrusive.
That was something I noticed but haven't commented on myself. Wonderful addition in my opinion. I agree about the chibi style pictures. Cute as heck, but not very consistent with the rest of the art style in the game.


Thank you!
No problem, you're welcome.
 

Cartageno

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Harem does not require the girls to fuck each other
You're talking about group sex, I think.

"Harem" endings don't require group sex. They can also be as simple as choosing the individual romantic endings for more than one character.
Personally I would completely agree with you. However, the tag definition on this forum mentions simultaneous sex (aka "group sex") of at least four harem members at once. Again, personally to me no group sex would be needed to qualify but the tag has a different definition.
 
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The old man is a one-time thing. Planning to add him secret other places. But for now, he is gone.
The old man gives the lock glasses. The gloves are from the battle.
From what they said earlier, you have to get them by having a good enough score in the fight.
How to have a good score ?
I win the Fight each time, I don't lose HP, but I still have grade D.
 

Toram Eldin

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How to have a good score ?
I win the Fight each time, I don't lose HP, but I still have grade D.
I'm not sure as I haven't gotten them yet myself. I'm just going to wait until I can get more gear and stat boosts from events then go back to it after a bit.
 

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It's a major flail in Ren'Py games, and near no devs thinks about an "import old saves" function (even if it must be in a separate executable). To be honest, most devs don't also think about built-in walkthroughs and/or avoidable grinding, too... So mods are required, or we have to edit saves just to avoid being bored to death.
Well, there are technical aspects which can be overcome but sometimes an old save wouldn't also make sense anymore if the story and/or mechanics change. Add a new stat - what should you use as a value for some advanced player? A storyline has been broken up or fused so the point the old save was in just does not exist anymore. Place where you are has been taken out completely. (This is generally speaking, not all of it applies to this specific game.) So sometimes an "import old save" wouldn't work.

Just one of the risks of following a game in development pre alpha - nothing is set in stone. Even more so, the more gameplay is involved instead of "just" telling a story. It is different from playing a game and then having content added through DLCs or similar. I hate redoing stuff as much as the next guy, but it is a risk I am willing to take for the experience of watching the game grow. It's a personal decision whether you prefer it this way or want to wait until a game releases. But I guess you cannot have your cake and eat it too here, at least the risk is there.
 
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Cartageno

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If white knights dont attack me, after near a year of development and instead of get big update 1000ish render and luna, Gracie and cordia story content, we get an update of rework gameplay and some not important new story.
Lets be honest, is this good UPDATE to you guys? to me if this was an update that takes 2-3 month top, acceptable but not working too long for this.
So this update acceptable to you after near a year ?
"Acceptable"? That is a word that doesn't apply here. We do not have to accept anything. Supporters may, but even they knew what would come. Hopes does not have to run this update past us. You can like or dislike the update. You can like the update but still think the long time wasn't worth it. But we are not in a position to call something "unacceptable". That would be a good contender for "most entitled statement" but alas ...

Holy shit a whole year for this LMAO. APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW.
... this guy of course takes the cake.
 

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Never knew something could be Christian and porn at the same time. lol
Well, since some of the more "strict" Christians (especially in the US if compared to Europe, dunno how it is in other parts of the world) are very much about virginity, the, ehm, literal "loophole" presents itself at the back, so you can fuck like the bible told you to. (Never mind that it didn't, that the pure technicality of an intact hymen can be bad anyway, that it could be repaired, etc.) Which leads to the situation, which for my culture is strange but can also be seen in quite a few games around here, that anal is an earlier "base" than vaginal.
 

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Doesn anyone have a save file from after 0.06 that works ? My last save file is from that version and I get an error when I want to load it and I don't really have the energy to go through the whole game again ...
 
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