whichone

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Tavern completely fills the MP, not just +1. You can (ab)use this when failing all checks with Lelianna: go to tavern, fill up, go back to where you were and complete the mission.
Ah, the square in Contract 1 only provides +1. Didn't know The Tavern was total refill, thanks! (y)
 

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I don't get much time to play games - and since I have had a PC die - I have had to start over with every game I have played (yes I know you had to restart after 7.0, but still, others I have had to restart as well where it was not required).

My thoughts:
  • I like the new mission system. While it is different than the previous - I am not scared of change. It took me a few times to understand what is going on, how to actually win, etc. but that is like a new person in the criminal life - so it was like an immersion for me. Once I knew what was going on - oh yeah - sweet, that worked well.
  • I think the hint system is perfect in the journal. I never was like "WTF do I need to do next". I could go to the journal and it was all there.
  • The writing has always been top notch for this game. Yes there are a few typos here and there and misspellings, but doesn't seriously harsh my buzz or immersion in the game. I don't know how much this dev makes or if this a full time job, etc. Don't care, it is a lot of work, and I cut people slack when they obviously are trying.
  • The story is a thriller/mystery story, with a little bit of erotic/porn in it. You are not showing up as a new guy and all 4 girls drop their panties for you. I love it. Every game is different. This game is not a load and wank fest, it is a story with erotic elements.
  • I have never done a monthly Patreon but have considered it for a few games. I have played hundreds of games on this site over the years and that number is now at 4 that I would consider (If I were not worried about credit card fraud on Patreon - damn cyber security background). What I do, is use a burner card, and when a game is finished, sign up with devs for a completed game at like a $25 level for a month to congratulate devs that I appreciate.
Keep up the good work.
 

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no idea whether the problem arises with others or not but when I go to the scenereplay gallery I am always brought back to the start.
clean start without old saves and older persistent file.

the new contracts are, well i don't know yet whether I like them or not...time will tell.
but i miss any older ones(guard,fight and so on), maybe they probably still have to be adapted to the new system.
and a rollback function would be very helpful in the contracts, not that helpful things are overlooked when clicking on.



I mean to remember that one could read books in the laptop to improve his skills.
is there a reason that this was taken out?
 

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Disregarding all complaints relating to the Contracts, I actually found the story in The Painter to be quite touching.
Good job there! (y)
 

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  • I think the hint system is perfect in the journal. I never was like "WTF do I need to do next". I could go to the journal and it was all there.
I think one thing that could be added here is "you completed the available content and should continue the main story" or suchlike. I think it is easy to forget that "continuing the story" still exists. Yes, the button is smack bang in the middle of the screen, but I easily can see it as an adornment.
 
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When you actually mean somehting to the boss .. what higher reguard could you possibly want?
Your family is one of the top brass ... you on your own mean a damn lot to other contractors like yourself.
Do not forget the talk in the beginning ... your family prowess in the ranks is your fame.

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No? what would happen to the family?
No one has told me anything about why I'm here, what my contract entails, who my father is or why I matter in any way, so how the hell would I have any idea what would happen to 'the family' if something happened to me?

The only reason I haven't been assassinated inside the house already is pure luck.


Seriously, might want to either change that line or have the MC retort with something about no one telling him anything or have the MC actually know something about why he is in any way important before this scene comes about.
I know previously he was given some idea who his mother is/was, but that doesn't really explain his situation to him.
To be fair, I think that you could view this as implying that losing the MC would be an embarrassment to Cordia, in the eyes of the other families.
MC rushing in and getting whacked would make The Family look unprofessional and weak, perhaps?
Also, as MC is a DeLuca, The Family would be called to answer for MC.
Maybe, rather than advising of the MC's worth, he's advising of the consequence of the MC's actions?
I like the new missions with text and map etc.

More detailed feedback (just my experience playing the game):
+ I believe the writing and story contributed most to keep me immersed, the images in between were nice addition for the imagination.
+ I expected to have similar frequency of images in all missions (non major), wishing for an image to show up and feed my imagination between my actions, where there was none, distracted me a tiny bit.
+ The user interface was not difficult for me, but may be it could be simpler, for example; click directly on the map to move, or every interaction inside the text story box, or something else, but players may not like too many changes.
+ Last couple things. I wish I could see few older messages on the text story box (with scroll or something else), and save between missions; specially when an image is shown so I can see the image again easily (the mission images accessible some other way works too).

That is all.
Stay safe! :)
Finally completed all the missions and the new content regarding Eiza. I really liked it. I'm not one for grinding games at all, but I thought the missions were all done very well and much more interesting that the original way of completing them.

I ended up with nearly $2000, all the special quest items and bought quite a few items from the store too. Excellent work HopesGaming and look forward to new content hopefully coming this year :)

PS the bug I reported was in the 7.1 version.
Finished the new version today.

The game is still excellent. I really liked the reworked contracts. They are not as necessary as I initially thought, as the main story pays well and ended up with the money from them just sitting there. The ability to revisit the contracts when mc is stronger is a nice touch. They also add a bit of flavour to the world. The painter's contract especially was really nice, both in flavour and story.

If it was up to me, the game would have a quest or two more, but reworking your code is a bitch at the best of times so it's understandable.

Also, I found a couple of bugs in the replay room caused by old filenames/paths, which I fixed.
Now you can enter the gallery, the intro playback works, the deadly dinner image is correctly sized (approximately), Cordia's thumbnail exists and I added the two new scenes in misc. They're unlocked by default, so spoilers if you don't finish the game first.

Download the zip, unzip the files in /game/gallery subfolder and overwrite. Keep a backup, just in case.
Well .. how did you progress past the 1st dance of gracie and 1st wine ?
Hint just sends me to sleep.
 

whichone

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Well .. how did you progress past the 1st dance of gracie and 1st wine ?
Hint just sends me to sleep.
Walkthrough in OP tells you the steps you need to take to complete the side missions for the girls.
Sounds like you've completed the first Isabel event, Drinking With A DeLuca. The next one, Bottle For A Bottle, requires Main Story III to be completed.
For Gracie, after Dancing With A DeLuca, she also needs Main Story III completed, to progress further.
 

whichone

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Fair enough .. still .. any hint saying go to sleep is a worthless one, be it given by dev, but why?
The Hints (?) are generic, not specific.
Use the Journal (J) to gain specific requirements for current objectives.
If you have completed all Events, speak to the girls at different times, to see if any new ones unlock.
If they do not, proceed with Main Story Mission(s), using the (Continue) option in the middle.
 

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I think one thing that could be added here is "you completed the available content and should continue the main story" or suchlike. I think it is easy to forget that "continuing the story" still exists. Yes, the button is smack bang in the middle of the screen, but I easily can see it as an adornment.
Fair enough. I found it fine because to do the next steps it tells you in the event log what you have to do to complete an event, start an event, etc. Since the log has all the events listed, you can see what you have to do, and continuing on the story, is part of it.
 

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Also ... the guide is scary scarce about what was introduced in this game:
Childhood: nothing, loops back.
• Social life: nothing, loops back.
• Relationships: nothing

What in this game world am I playing for .. NOTHING ???
 

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3 times already ... all my talk options are greyed out with uncle and all the gurls ..
got 1st dream of gracie .. .oh sweet angel!
 

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To be fair, I think that you could view this as implying that losing the MC would be an embarrassment to Cordia, in the eyes of the other families.
MC rushing in and getting whacked would make The Family look unprofessional and weak, perhaps?
Also, as MC is a DeLuca, The Family would be called to answer for MC.
Maybe, rather than advising of the MC's worth, he's advising of the consequence of the MC's actions?
Isn't that the point though? it hasn't been explained so we're just guessing what he means, right?
 

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MC is EFFECTIVELY SHACKING WITH THE DON AND HIS FAMILY FFS!!!

wHAT MORE RECOGNITION DO Y”!ALL NEED?
Isn't that the point though? it hasn't been explained so we're just guessing what he means, right?
You get to dance with gracie of all angels this world had given you ...
 

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Yup .. all I ever needed was dancing with Gracie ...
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That is determination enough for many lifetimes .. dancing with grace ...

I need somebody to heal
Somebody to know
Somebody to have
Somebody to hold
It's easy to say
But it's never the same
I guess I kinda liked the way you numbed all the pain
 
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