VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.6.2 Halloween Special] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[HennKyun]

God I love this twisted woman. Reminds me of Eva Green from Tim Burton's Dark Shadows. Creepy yet alluring.

 

[Dessolos]

Hell no! Too much shorts in that age. Short vids, short stories, short texts, that's all because of short thoughts in short minds, and they want it to make shorter and shorter everything everywhere. In my opinion - that it is a bad thing, and vocabulary says that called "degradation". Am fine that you come here not to learn about anything or graduate a porn university (but i bet you would, if it was only existing) - but at least why the hell you demand to cut out the main thing which make porn games to be better at something in comparison with many other forms of porn delivery: movies, comixxx, hentai, whatever else porny - already can give you what you want - the dumb flesh hitting flesh and nothing else matters. The main thing in porn games is interactive storytelling, and if it's well made it got chances to get a player's attention enough involved in making choices and enjoy or be surprised with the following consequences, following ways or corrupting characters little by little, enjoying their adventures and progress in lewding down their personalities. But i agree with you that about over 90% of gamedevs simply can't do that, with enough quality of images or with enough balanced aproach to storytelling... Anyway - shortering is not the way out, it's boring and pointless if it's about porngames, while every other genre of porn industry already can deliver you what you want - the shorties of whatever you want. Leave those who got not degraded imagination to feel joy from following the interactive storytelling in porn games. It have to be long enough for that, with fast comming updates, with lots of content in it. If it's well made ofc. This is the way.

yeah out of all the NTR / sharing games ive played a few are completed and the one thing I do dislike about those is that they are short even if I liked them alot. As usually most of the game is spent to get to the point where the husband or wife are okay with sharing and it becomes a normal thing for them. ( which is how I like it I prefer slow burn sharing than fast burn) By time it gets good with the sharing aspect the game is over while yeah kind makes sense from the story point of view. Thing is it just ends once the sharing parts get really good and exciting for me haha and I wish those games had 1 more act / 3 or so chapters more before the end.

Tho I will say it looking like this game is doing it right it's starting to get exciting and good and there is lots of story left

 

[Filipis]

Yeah unless AAA studios get into making porn games I don't want to wait 1,2,3+ months for an update where 80% of it is intense(and likely poorly written) dialogue and story development.

I wish more NTR developers would do one-offs like "ntrgames" used to do. Following a short NTR story where it's all fresh is so much better than watching gangbang #5 with the same couple. Like in Shadows of Desire, The birthday get together with the photo shoot, truth or dare and where Cami sucks cock blindfolded was way hotter than watching her get fucked in front of a group of people after already having cheated numerous times. Just my opinion though.

The problem is exactly the opposite. For the most gripping NTR or cheating experience, a longer story is necessary. The plot (and with it, the NTR & cheating) ramps up slowly over the course of the game, and that's how you get that nice slow-burn sear for a well-done game. Short stories don't have the same impact because they rush the most alluring aspect of telling a betrayal story like that: the methodical corruption of the wife/gf, her slow surrender to her lust, and her embracing her desires towards another person.

The East Block has the right idea, but the execution has so far been... flawed. Luke's "goal" was to corrupt Katheryn into becoming more sexually open (in terms of sharing her with other men), and having her first time - after all this time & effort - be with a backstreet hobo was the wrong choice (especially since it was also public sex at that), from an immersion standpoint. Also, the best cheating stories have the wife cheat because she wants to (succumbs), not because it's retaliation for what the MC did - like the way The East Block is also most likely to go.

 

[TheUberstuff]

The problem is exactly the opposite. For the most gripping NTR or cheating experience, a longer story is necessary. The plot (and with it, the NTR & cheating) ramps up slowly over the course of the game, and that's how you get that nice slow-burn sear for a well-done game. Short stories don't have the same impact because they rush the most alluring aspect of telling a betrayal story like that: the methodical corruption of the wife/gf, her slow surrender to her lust, and her embracing her desires towards another person.

The East Block has the right idea, but the execution has so far been... flawed. Luke's "goal" was to corrupt Katheryn into becoming more sexually open (in terms of sharing her with other men), and having her first time - after all this time & effort - be with a backstreet hobo was the wrong choice (especially since it was also public sex at that), from an immersion standpoint. Also, the best cheating stories have the wife cheat because she wants to (succumbs), not because it's retaliation for what the MC did - like the way The East Block is also most likely to go.

I actually think the game is very good and its your opinion that aspects of the game are wrong.

 

[Scotty Doesn't Know]

I don't think I ever heard that term used to describe these "pointless" AVNs before, but now I can't help but vehemently agree.

Games like 'The East Block' are "chain of events" games that have no overarching story that drives the plot forward - instead, the characters themselves progress the story.

It's a good 'chain of events' game, to be sure, but that's all it is, in the end.

This VN started really well. Fantastic potential! The way the dev was making sexual scenes from normal everyday situations was great. It slowly started to go downhill with dev changing things on the fly, slowing down the progression, some lewd scenes making no sense, having the drugs why they are acting sexual. Kathryn being a whore in her early days. Looked like he didn't want to show sex scenes, so he did flashbacks and dreams constantly, very cliched. In the end Kathryns innocent act and personality makes no sense, as shes already been through everything before. The corruption isn't from Luke or the drugs. Shes just a reawakened slut. The story, if there really even was one, is completely lost and muddled. Like he had an idea but didnt know how to implement it. Hes added more new characters unnecessarily when there's only a few chapters left to sort out all of the fetishes promised with so many different men, characters story, side characters, and the eventual plot.

Luke and Kathryns relationship, the dialogue between them started fine then became ham fisted, where they just speak their feelings constantly. She cries every single update, so she looks more sympathetic. Luke always feels bad about making Kat do sexual things with other guys and his dialogue reflects this. But if you're choosing every lewd act for her, then as a player, most would feel the exact opposite! Everything is so forced. What started as the most fascinating thing in the VN (Luke and Kathryn) has turned into the least interesting thing to me.

This is not a game. It is a kinetic VN with the illusion of choice. You either say yes to lewd scenes or no. There is no extra scenes or difference with saying no. The only thing that changes is maybe a couple lines of dialogue in each update. The very thing that will make this a game, the dev is too lazy to do it. Can easily make a few renders of Luke and Kath having fun instead of her doing it with other guys, if you choose no, even have her saying how she might fantasize about it but too scared to do it. While I could care less about the faithful path, the dev should! Its the only thing that he has implemented in the VN to have a choice but even that is false and pointless. He has time to add these things - Especially that the updates are 3 months instead of 2 months to release now - taking longer each time but the actual playing time of each update is shorter! Which nobody seems to mention, feels like 1984 with the chocolate rations lol. Theres no extra scenes from choices, the variables are the same. So hes either struggling to come up with the new story or he's taking his time because he's comfortable with the subscriber count - maybe both. Subscribers are obviously growing month by month. I originally rated this 5 stars because of the brilliant start, now it would be a 3.

 

[BigSexy57]

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[6ambino]

I say - am very impressed by this game. It's not ideal, but it is definitely better than many other games all together. My standing ovations to the author. I'd like to share my constructive feedback about what could be improved to make it even better:

1. The most close game which came on my mind to be quite similar to The East Block (TEB) - is Inside Jennifer season1 (IJ), an improved renpy remake of older poor game on rpgm engine (all the other games of that studio i have checked and strongly dislike them, they are good in renders and zero in character's personalities and boring as hell storytelling, except IJ, it's a damaged, unfinished, cutted as hell, buggy, but still almost a masterpiece, at some points.)
In short
- IJ's main advantage is quite good detailed and long lasting scenes of sex content itself, nice camerawork in most cases, not too perfect but quite enough natural movements of characters on rendered images or animated scenes, but IJ's main disadvantage is that it got a mess instead of storytelling and lot of cut out routes\scenes.
- TEB got it vice versa - a very good storytelling, much details of thoughts, feelings, frights, doubts, evident passions or secret desires of TEB's characters, they are showing to player deep enough and realistic personalities with natural behavior (taking in mind that they are fighting or falling with EP1 effect, you know). BUT! On the other side - let's say honestly - TEB got quite modest scenes detalisation, with poor number of renders (for example - i'd love to see more frames of currently made light gropping events, more surprised or catched with growing passion faces), low images' detalisation, not a good camerawork (like on event when she has to work as maniquen - camera angles are just bad, or it was shown from not enough points of view to enjoy visualy in a full way) and most painful - unnatural keyframe animation of characters' body parts movements during the sex events (the most bad example which comes 1st on a mind - is the movement of the girl riding a flasher on a streets, it looks like 2 frames of animations, just up and down, no hips working, no any of other body parts phisics. too low number of emotions showing on the characters faces, ect. Or 1st BJ to Nate - it was so mechanical, emotionless, i wish it could look better in images, because the event is hot itself)
- In conclusion - if to add at least not lower than IJ's scenes detalisation and in the same time to keep TEB's very impressive quality of storytelling - it will be a nuclear sexbomb! Mark my words.

3. There are dreams of characters in the game. It's ok to illustrate the desires and frights of characters' personalities even deeper, but since dreaming events are still eats the development time and requires rendering frames - am suggesting to make dreaming events less detailed, and by the powers which will be free because of that reduction - to invest more time and frames into detalisation of real happening events in the game with non-dreaming characters.

i'd say more - but it's a long message already. What da ya think of it, buddies?

I'm of the similar opinion about animations. Flasher sex scene looks like insects intercourse, the fluid movement makes the character look even more artificial. It would do good with, pauses for a little change in pose. Maybe It would look a little more appealing from closer camera angles. A small action like a hand job looks okay. But to me those are animations made in Daz are nothing much.

I also find your idea with the dreams is worth exploring for.

The problem is exactly the opposite. For the most gripping NTR or cheating experience, a longer story is necessary. The plot (and with it, the NTR & cheating) ramps up slowly over the course of the game, and that's how you get that nice slow-burn sear for a well-done game. Short stories don't have the same impact because they rush the most alluring aspect of telling a betrayal story like that: the methodical corruption of the wife/gf, her slow surrender to her lust, and her embracing her desires towards another person.

I don't think you get the vibe of this story. Luke clearly is afraid of going on with his fantasy, because he cares about Kath. This story isn't some sadistic recipe for a betrayal. Luke wants to enjoy his fantasy and still keep his relationship with Kath, because if it breaks, he won't get any pleasure from sharing her. You can't share what you don't have anymore.

You seem to be selling only a single aspect of NTR that can appear in a straightforward corruption game? It isn't the main character's point of view. In NTR you play as the MC, and you try to get in his shoes and try to salvage the situation around. Otherwise, it would be a nonsense, because you could self-insert as a bull every time, and call it a wonderful Netori game. The immersion is important, so you can't break the third wall and play as an author to slowly corrupt everyone around.

The East Block has the right idea, but the execution has so far been... flawed. Luke's "goal" was to corrupt Katheryn into becoming more sexually open (in terms of sharing her with other men), and having her first time - after all this time & effort - be with a backstreet hobo was the wrong choice (especially since it was also public sex at that), from an immersion standpoint. Also, the best cheating stories have the wife cheat because she wants to (succumbs), not because it's retaliation for what the MC did - like the way The East Block is also most likely to go.

Luke isn't some daredevil who wants to corrupt Kath to cheat on him. He also has second thoughts about his motives, and want to specifically keep their relationship, or even make it grow stronger. He definitely doesn't want her to feel any deep emotional attachment to the dudes she plays with. The love is only reserved for Luke, so the unassuming hobo is a perfect choice for a starter.

Luke and Kathryns relationship, the dialogue between them started fine then became ham fisted, where they just speak their feelings constantly. She cries every single update, so she looks more sympathetic. Luke always feels bad about making Kat do sexual things with other guys and his dialogue reflects this. But if you're choosing every lewd act for her, then as a player, most would feel the exact opposite! Everything is so forced. What started as the most fascinating thing in the VN (Luke and Kathryn) has turned into the least interesting thing to me.

It's so silly to think that every guy who plays this game wants for his gf to fuck around. That you think otherwise is really immature, and show that Bobby is at least older and more experienced than you.
In this game, we can make bolder choices for the MC, but in reality we would have similar dilemmas as Luke.

 

[Monty10]

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what's the game name?

 

[Scotty Doesn't Know]

It's so silly to think that every guy who plays this game wants for his gf to fuck around. That you think otherwise is really immature, and show that Bobby is at least older and more experienced than you.
In this game, we can make bolder choices for the MC, but in reality we would have similar dilemmas as Luke.

Since you're too simple minded to understand my point. I'll tell you what I mean in layman's terms. Whether you play Luke as someone who gives in and wants Kathryn to do things with other guys, or if you stop her each time. There is no difference in the way Luke talks about this. He always feels bad for either doing this or thinking this and says he has issues etc. This is why I call the dev lazy. He could have had different dialogue to represent your specific choices - All lewd options means Luke doesn't feel bad, all good options he does, for inbetween the dev can change the dialogue depending on the situation. But he does as little as possible to avoid the extra work.

I guess you're not intelligent enough to understand this or even read and quote my comment. I said most players not every... which of course there will be as they want to see the lewd scenes. Defenders of the Bobbyboy faith need to learn how to debate without making themselves look like fools.

 

[Lord Bradley]

God I love this twisted woman. Reminds me of Eva Green from Tim Burton's Dark Shadows. Creepy yet alluring.
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You keep that wench away from my MC, she's trying to get me to cheat on my amazing girlfriend and that is NOT cool!!
(she's more than welcome to corrupt my girlfriend tho, that would be best strategy to earn my affection)

 

[BigSexy57]

Hey guys. How about discussing something really cool. Like
- our own fantasies about what would happen next in this game?
AND
- what was possible to happen in previous events, as an alternative brunch or additional content.

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So, folks, do you have something on your mind about alternative or additional events, routes, brunches in past and future events of this magnificent game? ^_^

 

[6ambino]

I guess you're not intelligent enough to understand this or even read and quote my comment. I said most players not every... which of course there will be as they want to see the lewd scenes. Defenders of the Bobbyboy faith need to learn how to debate without making themselves look like fools.

By most players, you mean everyone who are there for NTR and avoidable NTR? They all would not hesitate to share their women in real life? Haha, what an edgy kiddo
Maybe they should get a woman first, but not a scary wench that not even a hobo would spare a glance at.
Yeah, I meant exactly this.

 

[BigSexy57]

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[GPADULT]

The East Block [v0.6.2] [Bobbyboy Productions] Turkish Translate (GPADULT)



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[BigSexy57]

is there any info - when the next update will appear here? oh boy, i can't wait for it!

 

[BigSexy57]

Maybe they should get a woman first, but not a scary wench that not even a hobo would spare a glance at.

Why do you care so much? 'bout them. Or it was a self-critical note? Personaly i don't know what they are, what they prefer, what they wanna do with their gals. If you have theories about them - i guess you should ask them to check if you right or not, instead of intulting unknown people for no reason.
I can't say for all, like you did, what i sure can speek is for myself.
NTR never was my main or only point of interest, but i feel that in special circumstances, with some IFs, i am sure can kinda enjoy NTR stuff.
In games - if it is made well, i'd not like a badly made game just because there are some or all NTR content, but - if a game is doing well aproach, with a good story, smooth step-by-step corruptioining, providing natural personalities with reasonable behaviours, doubts and passion moments, ect - it can be hot, and this game is a pretty well example of it, as i see it for now.
IRL - about the same. I'd not run around offering my girlie to everything what is moving, but in some hot circumstances it was pretty acceptable and we liked it very much. How much hot my gal was when we did thresome last time, idk, you tell me, if DD is not in your tastes, maybe you got something better to spare a glance at. ^_^

 

[6ambino]

Why do you care so much? 'bout them. Or it was a self-critical note? Personaly i don't know what they are, what they prefer, what they wanna do with their gals. If you have theories about them - i guess you should ask them to check if you right or not, instead of intulting unknown people for no reason.
I can't say for all, like you did, what i sure can speek is for myself.
NTR never was my main or only point of interest, but i feel that in special circumstances, with some IFs, i am sure can kinda enjoy NTR stuff.
In games - if it is made well, i'd not like a badly made game just because there are some or all NTR content, but - if a game is doing well aproach, with a good story, smooth step-by-step corruptioining, providing natural personalities with reasonable behaviours, doubts and passion moments, ect - it can be hot, and this game is a pretty well example of it, as i see it for now.
IRL - about the same. I'd not run around offering my girlie to everything what is moving, but in some hot circumstances it was pretty acceptable and we liked it very much. How much hot my gal was when we did thresome last time, idk, you tell me, if DD is not in your tastes, maybe you got something better to spare a glance at. ^_^

Should I ask them? I think it's enough if I read this thread, and saw people's interests.
I think it's a basic common sense to cherish your own possession. Here people are no different.
Hot circumstances can definitely ease things up.
Of course, it's easier to speak about giving up something, that you've never possessed. I was just stating a fact that Bobby is experienced enough to know how such common things in the world work, and maybe his words about having a relationship are not just a fraud, like that guy stated in his posts before.
And I assumed that the game's 19 age restriction is working, and even the youngest people here can easily take such a mild insult, like in a pretty common adult discussion.
I give my deep apology to any collateral early teenager, who might happen to pass by this thread.

 

[mommysboiii]

 

[Scotty Doesn't Know]

By most players, you mean everyone who are there for NTR and avoidable NTR? They all would not hesitate to share their women in real life? Haha, what an edgy kiddo
Maybe they should get a woman first, but not a scary wench that not even a hobo would spare a glance at.
Yeah, I meant exactly this.

Your problem is you project yourself as the MC. Kathryn is your girlfriend and you are talking from that point of view only. Not understanding there are other ways to play, so closed minded. Many of us play from a voyeur style. So we just want to see action and have no thought about if this is bad that a girlfriend is cheating on MC.

So indirectly you have said you don't have a girl and pretend in these VNs that the women are actually yours. That's sad for you. So it means you should probably take your own advice, get a girl and stop projecting.

 

[6ambino]

IRL - about the same. I'd not run around offering my girlie to everything what is moving, but in some hot circumstances it was pretty acceptable and we liked it very much. How much hot my gal was when we did thresome last time, idk, you tell me, if DD is not in your tastes, maybe you got something better to spare a glance at. ^_^

That's what I mean about reading. I didn't even ask you specifically, and you throw such honest goods at me. Have fun bro!
Just no hard feelings (pun intended), I expected such words from the moment you started to wrote in this thread. Such a shame that usually you can't get a direct and true answer from people. All in all everyone, including the dev can only assume people's interests based on their experience.