VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.7.2] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Could just be me but Nate has never really given me the impression that he is up for sharing Kath with Luke. He seems more like a Mr. Steal your girl type, who wants Kath for himself. Someone up for sharing would surely make more of an effort to befriend Luke, certainly not blackmail him.

I can see the game making more of a shift towards NTR if I'm honest. Or at least there being a split depending on player choices, but the fact that Luke feels some guilt for cheating at the end of the last update even if he hasn't doesn't give me much hope.

I'm thinking the most likely thing (depending on previous choices with Claire at least), is a coerced sharing. Nate pressures Luke into letting him do stuff with Kathryn, or pressures him into pushing Kathryn to do stuff with Nate (same outcome, slightly different steps) on the threat of exposing Luke's cheating if he doesn't. (And I mean sharing as in letting someone else fool around with your girl, not sharing as in threesome, because I also don't think Nate wants Luke involved.)

Alternatively, Nate will suggest playing spin the bottle, since we've not had that in this game yet...

Disagree on Nate - that's assigning f95 player logic to him. I feel like a normal skeezebag in the real world - if he thinks a girl is hot, he'll have no hangups on banging her if the boyfriend tags him in. That's not at all mutually exclusive with the 'mr steal yo girl' type; what starts as a amicable threesome could end with him trying to hog her. Putting the whole "sharing" thing in its own category is an f95 construct, no more.

Furthermore, is Clem even on a gossip-talking basis with Nate? It wouldn't surprise me - but that's implicit in the scenario TonyMurray listed, which isn't necessarily a given in game. Clem has clearly tried to hide and downplay her relationship/proximity to Santini and the others; so if Nate did go this blackmail route it'd pretty much break things wide open. Keep in mind - the only concrete leverage Nate has over them was catching Luke and Claire spying in the closet, the cheating stuff is all theory.

It's definitely danced the line at many points between more of an ntr focus and not, on one hand Luke is almost always aware much to the frustration of ntr purists, on the other hand there's simply too many sneering old men and lechers to make it feel like an amicable swinging game.

 

[TonyMurray]

Furthermore, is Clem even on a gossip-talking basis with Nate? It wouldn't surprise me - but that's implicit in the scenario TonyMurray listed, which isn't necessarily a given in game. Clem has clearly tried to hide and downplay her relationship/proximity to Santini and the others; so if Nate did go this blackmail route it'd pretty much break things wide open. Keep in mind - the only concrete leverage Nate has over them was catching Luke and Claire spying in the closet, the cheating stuff is all theory.

I wasn't even thinking about Clem in this respect. If you made the choice to do so, Nate actually catches you fucking Claire while spying in the closet. So it's not just theory, he knows you're cheating, in that scenario.

 

[Justaphase]

Disagree on Nate - that's assigning f95 player logic to him. I feel like a normal skeezebag in the real world - if he thinks a girl is hot, he'll have no hangups on banging her if the boyfriend tags him in. That's not at all mutually exclusive with the 'mr steal yo girl' type; what starts as a amicable threesome could end with him trying to hog her. Putting the whole "sharing" thing in its own category is an f95 construct, no more.

Furthermore, is Clem even on a gossip-talking basis with Nate? It wouldn't surprise me - but that's implicit in the scenario TonyMurray listed, which isn't necessarily a given in game. Clem has clearly tried to hide and downplay her relationship/proximity to Santini and the others; so if Nate did go this blackmail route it'd pretty much break things wide open. Keep in mind - the only concrete leverage Nate has over them was catching Luke and Claire spying in the closet, the cheating stuff is all theory.

It's definitely danced the line at many points between more of an ntr focus and not, on one hand Luke is almost always aware much to the frustration of ntr purists, on the other hand there's simply too many sneering old men and lechers to make it feel like an amicable swinging game.

I just feel like Luke now has his guard up where Nate is concerned, after the blackmail. So a threesome is less likely, though still possible. As TonyMurray said it will probably be through coercion of Luke and the situation rather than seduction. Could also heavily depend on how far Luke/the player allowed things to go on the bench and if Kath chose Luke or Nate for the blowjob during the photoshoot.
Sadly Kath seemed to believe Clem when she lied (depending on choice) about Luke touching her in the shower, Kath just didn't bring it up with him as she didn't want to risk losing him. Would she also believe Nate's lies about what he may or may not have seen in the closet between Luke and Claire?

 

[Justaphase]

I wasn't even thinking about Clem in this respect. If you made the choice to do so, Nate actually catches you fucking Claire while spying in the closet. So it's not just theory, he knows you're cheating, in that scenario.

He walks in and "catches" them even if you choose to not even touch Claire. To him then they are simply alone in a closet.

 

[TonyMurray]

He walks in and "catches" them even if you choose to not even touch Claire. To him then they are simply alone in a closet.

If you don't fuck her, Nate catches you spying, but if you do fuck her, he catches you fucking:

Obviously the fucking is the serious one, just being caught spying doesn't give as much to hold over Luke in terms of blackmail (IMO). But he could still insinuate (or outright lie) to Kathryn to try and get her to cheat on Luke with him, or tell Luke that he'll lie to Kathryn, in order to get his way with Kathryn with Luke's (coerced) blessing.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I wasn't even thinking about Clem in this respect. If you made the choice to do so, Nate actually catches you fucking Claire while spying in the closet. So it's not just theory, he knows you're cheating, in that scenario.

He walks in and "catches" them even if you choose to not even touch Claire. To him then they are simply alone in a closet.

You both are correct - my mistake - it's dependent on the player's choice to cop a feel on Claire or not; I always didn't, so that was my frame of reference.

But do consider the implications of that. That would make Nate banging Kath during his visit hinged on that single interaction with Claire. You could be right, but that's a lot of potential renders and event action to gatekeep for the whole playerbase on a single interaction....

I just feel like Luke now has his guard up where Nate is concerned, after the blackmail. So a threesome is less likely, though still possible. As TonyMurray said it will probably be through coercion of Luke and the situation rather than seduction. Could also heavily depend on how far Luke/the player allowed things to go on the bench and if Kath chose Luke or Nate for the blowjob during the photoshoot.
Sadly Kath seemed to believe Clem when she lied (depending on choice) about Luke touching her in the shower, Kath just didn't bring it up with him as she didn't want to risk losing him. Would she also believe Nate's lies about what he may or may not have seen in the closet between Luke and Claire?

IMO that's underestimating luke's horniness

I mean, as soon as Nate swoops in and catches him and basically invites himself over, Luke's thoughts are:



And that's independent of whether Kat blew Nate or Luke back in ch 2. That doesn't sound like guard up to me

Agreed we dont know how much lying will be done - but those what ifs can go on forever. I'm leaving my wager here to refer back to at next release; I think the most likely outcome will either be: Starts as showing clothes, then turns into Nate feeling her up and banging her with Luke as voyeur, OR starts as MMF threesome, but veers into slight ntr territory when Nate gets too into it. I think Luke's horniness will play a far bigger role than any blackmail plot.

While the blackmail/Luke pass out stuff is possible I'm wagering it's the least likely.

 

[blkcrow20]

I'm mixed on Nate, he's better than the dad as a male pairing, but still comes with skeezebag baggage....I guess beggars cant be choosers and all...

Yes, we can. We really need some better male characters in this game. Everyone, except the guy in prison, is an asshole, a douchebag or a piece of shit. Bobby making the whole male population look like shit.

I'm thinking the most likely thing (depending on previous choices with Claire at least), is a coerced sharing. Nate pressures Luke into letting him do stuff with Kathryn, or pressures him into pushing Kathryn to do stuff with Nate (same outcome, slightly different steps) on the threat of exposing Luke's cheating if he doesn't. (And I mean sharing as in letting someone else fool around with your girl, not sharing as in threesome, because I also don't think Nate wants Luke involved.)

I hope not.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Everyone, except the guy in prison, is an asshole, a douchebag or a piece of shit.

Just you wait...the cliffhanger in 7 on Alex suggests otherwise...

(yes he's been my favorite too so far)

 

[blkcrow20]

Just you wait...the cliffhanger in 7 on Alex suggests otherwise...

(yes he's been my favorite too so far)

Yeah, I'm slowly losing hope for this game.

 

[TonyMurray]

But do consider the implications of that. That would make Nate banging Kath during his visit hinged on that single interaction with Claire. You could be right, but that's a lot of potential renders and event action to gatekeep for the whole playerbase on a single interaction....

I don't think it will be a gatekeeping moment, just one that will make things easier (for Nate). Whether you fucked Claire and got caught or not, I still think Nate will (if allowed by the player) end up fucking Kathryn - or at least doing some other stuff, BJ etc. Personally, with how things have gone on that particular path so far, I can't see them not fucking - it just wouldn't fit in with how far we've come on that path, especially if you didn't say "no" at any point during the gloryhole scene.

 

[Joshy92]

You guys are all wrong, what will happen is Nate will be about to unleash his pent-up baby making seed into Kathryn's fertile womb when suddenly there will be a knock on the door, and who is it? Well, it's that piece of garbage who stopped me from seeing heaven in chapter six.

I mean, look at this prick

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I just know he will show up and ruin our fun again.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I don't think it will be a gatekeeping moment, just one that will make things easier (for Nate). Whether you fucked Claire and got caught or not, I still think Nate will (if allowed by the player) end up fucking Kathryn - or at least doing some other stuff, BJ etc. Personally, with how things have gone on that particular path so far, I can't see them not fucking - it just wouldn't fit in with how far we've come on that path, especially if you didn't say "no" at any point during the gloryhole scene.

For sure and I'm not at all opposed to seeing some banging! I think we're all on the same page with that, just a matter of if it's catalyzed by blackmail (lame and not as hot IHMO) or horniness.

You guys are all wrong, what will happen is Nate will be about to unleash his pent-up baby making seed into Kathryn's fertile womb when suddenly there will be a knock on the door, and who is it? Well, it's that piece of garbage who stopped me from seeing heaven in chapter six.

I mean, look at this prick

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I just know he will show up and ruin our fun again.

Joshy did you ever consider maybe the asian restaurant worker is hung like a horse, and he knew the vagrant wouldn't be able to satisfy kath like he could- so out of the warmth of his heart he had to halt the scene in order to maximize her enjoyment later once he makes his entrance?

 

[Joshy92]

For sure and I'm not at all opposed to seeing some banging! I think we're all on the same page with that, just a matter of if it's catalyzed by blackmail (lame and not as hot IHMO) or horniness.

Joshy did you ever consider maybe the asian restaurant worker is hung like a horse, and he knew the vagrant wouldn't be able to satisfy kath like he could- so out of the warmth of his heart he had to halt the scene in order to maximize her enjoyment later once he makes his entrance?

You just blew my fucking mind, bro. You're right, I'll check him out and see if he can measure up before I decide what to do.

But seriously, that would be a good plot twist to have him as an option for Kath.

 

[Justaphase]

You guys are all wrong, what will happen is Nate will be about to unleash his pent-up baby making seed into Kathryn's fertile womb when suddenly there will be a knock on the door, and who is it? Well, it's that piece of garbage who stopped me from seeing heaven in chapter six.

I mean, look at this prick

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I just know he will show up and ruin our fun again.

Maybe if you jump out and spunk in his eyes Joshy, blinding him. He won't be able to ruin your fun again. Maybe he will be attending the dance that Pat is taking Kath to, so will stop him finishing inside Kath aswell.

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[Joshy92]

Maybe if you jump out and spunk in his eyes Joshy, blinding him. He won't be able to ruin your fun again. Maybe he will be attending the dance that Pat is taking Kath to, so will stop him finishing inside Kath aswell.

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You know I wouldn't complain if Pat knocked Kathryn up lol.

Some would consider it a disturbing ending but Luke would be a dad how can that not be a good end?

 

[Justaphase]

You know I wouldn't complain if Pat knocked Kathryn up lol.

Some would consider it a disturbing ending but Luke would be a dad how can that not be a good end?

Yeah he would be a great dad/brother to the baby.

 

[blkcrow20]

You know I wouldn't complain if Pat knocked Kathryn up lol.

Some would consider it a disturbing ending but Luke would be a dad how can that not be a good end?

Because it's Luke's dad.

 

[MovieMaker90]

I told you, man, that the update will be released, maybe in August, I vanga saw it in a dream, his words about chapter 8, as they say, not in the eye, but in the eye, said the date of the possible release of the chapter.

 

[MovieMaker90]

And read what he released in the post, another discouragement that the version is made in chunks and the norm cotenta the most norm removed, not which left, and the bottom line is 50/50 so-so content and 50% of the content so-so, and the rest of the cut, and for 50 bucks the game should be like this. But I want the uncut version! And for 20 and beyond you could do the cut part, but that's my opinion of this post

 

[wmrxd]

I hope the scene isn't based on blackmail, if it's based on Luke and Kathryn's wishes, it would be much hotter.