VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.8.2] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[MagicMan753]

Well, dev told me maybe he will adjust or change this Kathryn issue down the line. Which let's be real, means, NO.
If he was ever going to change it, NOW would be the time. Cause in the future he would have to do more reworks, add more scenes, rewrites, the further this story goes, makes this unlikely to change this, NOW is the only time.

I am also reminded of one of the most impactful scenes, a few chapters ago, when Kathryn cried, when she was vulnerable, worried that we were cheating, worried that we didn't love her essentially. Well, with this recent update, that whole scene just means NOTHING anymore.

Kathryn basically confirms she doesn't value us, she doesn't choose us, she basically says, she doesn't Love us, by not following us and by basically choosing Pat. That whole crying scene means nothing now, cause why should we care about her when she clearly doesn't value us.

Not changing this scene, is and will be one of the biggest mistakes ever. The dev made this contrived plot and character assassination of one a great and beloved character, to just force drama even though its out of her nature. He has ruined all past moments, by not having an option here.

It feels like Bobbyboy48 doesn't care about about these characters and doesn't care about his fans unless they are paying him enough, then he will fold instantly to what they want.

With the dev confirming nothing will change, no reworks, or anything, nothing matters, and will probably just go more downhill from where we are.
It's just a letdown and shame, the dev does not care anymore and has sacrificed a great Visual novel.

 

[Claudio83]

I have not cheated with Franklin, Albert and Pat (sharing is not cheating, but it's based on trust).
I was hoping in the site fan's gangbang at the start of the update, but for now Luke don't want share Kath anymore... i'm hoping for a rethinking in the future! And obviously it there will be...

 

[bulbor]

Well, dev told me maybe he will adjust or change this Kathryn issue down the line. Which let's be real, means, NO. If he was ever going to change it, NOW would be the time. Cause in the future he would have to do more reworks, add more scenes, rewrites, the further this story goes, makes this unlikely to change this, NOW is the only time.

I am also reminded of one of the most impactful scenes, a few chapters ago, when Kathryn cried, when she was vulnerable, worried that we were cheating, worried that we didn't love her essentially. Well, with this recent update, that whole scene just means NOTHING anymore.

Kathryn basically confirms she doesn't value us, she doesn't choose us, she basically says, she doesn't Love us, by not following us and by basically choosing Pat. That whole crying scene means nothing now, cause why should we care about her when she clearly doesn't value us.

Not changing this scene, is and will be one of the biggest mistakes ever. The dev made this contrived plot and character assassination of one a great and beloved character, to just force drama even though its out of her nature. He has ruined all past moments, by not having an option here.

It feels like Bobbyboy48 doesn't care about about these characters and doesn't care about his fans unless they are paying him enough, then he will fold instantly to what they want.

With the dev confirming nothing will change, no reworks, or anything, nothing matters, and will probably just go more downhill from where we are.
It's just a letdown and shame, the dev does not care anymore and has sacrificed a great Visual novel.

Indeed, this latest update is not what I signed up for. Kat is definitely breaking character. Even on the "faithful Luke" path she is given the choice to cheat. Options are good, but it' feels out of character. There is a difference between, sex happy girlfriend and mindless girlfriend completely controlled by her libido. But hey I'm not the dev, he has to follow his vision, (but is it his vision he is following though?).

 

[Joshy92]

Indeed, this latest update is not what I signed up for. Kat is definitely breaking character. Even on the "faithful Luke" path she is given the choice to cheat. Options are good, but it' feels out of character. There is a difference between, sex happy girlfriend and mindless girlfriend completely controlled by her libido. But hey I'm not the dev, he has to follow his vision, (but is it his vision he is following though?).

Just adding a scene to go home with Luke would improve things dramatically imo. This chapter took a big shit all over Kathryn's character.

 

[xert13]

So, is the wife finally screwing others without permission now?

 

[Joshy92]

So, is the wife finally screwing others without permission now?

She's not his wife but yeah she's cheating if you choose. In fact it's all we got this update.

 

[micmac14]

I found it strange that he had her suck 17 dicks and swallow every load but then turns around and says no to gangbang. pretty sure at this point you would be ok with a gangbang. Anyway, easy to pick the game apart but all in all... still one of the better games when you take everything into account. can't please everyone all the time.

 

[wmrxd]

Every time I think about this new update, the situation just seems to get worse. The developer simply ruined Kat, completely destroying her personality. This is even more shocking because he himself had previously stated that she didn't have the character or disposition to betray Luke.

The only conclusion I can come up with is that he must be getting very well paid to implement this utterly bizarre NTR route. It's as if he sold out, abandoning the fans who have been here since the beginning, who are invested in the characters and their adventure.

The logical solution, which would make ten times more sense, would be to simply add the option for Kat to leave with us. It doesn't seem that difficult to implement! Her staying with Pat is completely incoherent, considering Luke hates him and doesn't want to have any relationship with him.

It's sad to see the horrible choices made in this update. The game, which was so good, has now become just another generic and bad NTR game. I repeat my belief that he must be profiting heavily to make this change.

And what good is it for him to say he might only change it later on? This ruined the game now. Without an immediate fix, many fans will give up playing.

He hired someone to help, so it would take almost no time to make a simple change, adding the option for her to leave together. That would save the update!

It's a huge shame. I genuinely just want to understand what went through his mind to ruin such a good character as Kat, who was easily one of the best FMC in this genre of game.

 

[Joshy92]

Every time I think about this new update, the situation just seems to get worse. The developer simply ruined Kat, completely destroying her personality. This is even more shocking because he himself had previously stated that she didn't have the character or disposition to betray Luke.

The only conclusion I can come up with is that he must be getting very well paid to implement this utterly bizarre NTR route. It's as if he sold out, abandoning the fans who have been here since the beginning, who are invested in the characters and their adventure.

The logical solution, which would make ten times more sense, would be to simply add the option for Kat to leave with us. It doesn't seem that difficult to implement! Her staying with Pat is completely incoherent, considering Luke hates him and doesn't want to have any relationship with him.

It's sad to see the horrible choices made in this update. The game, which was so good, has now become just another generic and bad NTR game. I repeat my belief that he must be profiting heavily to make this change.

And what good is it for him to say he might only change it later on? This ruined the game now. Without an immediate fix, many fans will give up playing.

He hired someone to help, so it would take almost no time to make a simple change, adding the option for her to leave together. That would save the update!

It's a huge shame. I genuinely just want to understand what went through his mind to ruin such a good character as Kat, who was easily one of the best FMC in this genre of game.

Yep, her character was damaged big time this update. I get if Luke cheated then yes have her stay with Pat but I've been faithful all playthrough even though it means I missed a huge chunk of Chapter seven and this is how I get rewarded?

I feel fucking cheated and empty.

 

[Justaphase]

Every time I think about this new update, the situation just seems to get worse. The developer simply ruined Kat, completely destroying her personality. This is even more shocking because he himself had previously stated that she didn't have the character or disposition to betray Luke.

The only conclusion I can come up with is that he must be getting very well paid to implement this utterly bizarre NTR route. It's as if he sold out, abandoning the fans who have been here since the beginning, who are invested in the characters and their adventure.

The logical solution, which would make ten times more sense, would be to simply add the option for Kat to leave with us. It doesn't seem that difficult to implement! Her staying with Pat is completely incoherent, considering Luke hates him and doesn't want to have any relationship with him.

It's sad to see the horrible choices made in this update. The game, which was so good, has now become just another generic and bad NTR game. I repeat my belief that he must be profiting heavily to make this change.

And what good is it for him to say he might only change it later on? This ruined the game now. Without an immediate fix, many fans will give up playing.

He hired someone to help, so it would take almost no time to make a simple change, adding the option for her to leave together. That would save the update!

It's a huge shame. I genuinely just want to understand what went through his mind to ruin such a good character as Kat, who was easily one of the best FMC in this genre of game.

And the thing is, where does he even go from here? Make two separate paths, one where Kath cheated and one where she didn't? Have her lie and have a relationship built on lies.
At least now we know why Bobby was trying so hard to get us to cheat as Luke in chapter 7, probably so that there could be a "Well I can't be mad since I cheated as well." maybe even fucked her Mom?. The problem is, that doesn't work if you've turned down every cheating opportunity. Unless that bullshit story that Clem told Kath about Luke groping her in the shower is going to count.

 

[Joshy92]

And the thing is, where does he even go from here? Make two separate paths, one where Kath cheated and one where she didn't? Have her lie and have a relationship built on lies.
At least now we know why Bobby was trying so hard to get us to cheat as Luke in chapter 7, probably so that there could be a "Well I can't be mad since I cheated as well." maybe even fucked her Mom?. The problem is, that doesn't work if you've turned down every cheating opportunity. Unless that bullshit story that Clem told Kath about Luke groping her in the shower is going to count.

And that whole ending scene loses its impact if we don't cheat, so why is it there for sharing players? It doesn't make sense. Unless he didn't want to delay the update anymore because people were getting salty but still.

It loses every bit of emotion if we don't cheat, so why is it there?

 

[Bob XP]

I'm glad my lie worked. I'm really liking this character.


Kat and Pat's meeting and the sex scene were great.
Just having content featuring the MC's father with Kathryn has already made it my favorite. It's still early, but I'm already rooting for a happy ending between them. I'm excited for more family betrayals. Unfortunately, there are still very few NTS/NTR games with a father stealing the protagonist's girlfriend/wife.

 

[wmrxd]

And the thing is, where does he even go from here? Make two separate paths, one where Kath cheated and one where she didn't? Have her lie and have a relationship built on lies.
At least now we know why Bobby was trying so hard to get us to cheat as Luke in chapter 7, probably so that there could be a "Well I can't be mad since I cheated as well." maybe even fucked her Mom?. The problem is, that doesn't work if you've turned down every cheating opportunity. Unless that bullshit story that Clem told Kath about Luke groping her in the shower is going to count.

My perception is that the developer will increasingly focus on the NTR route. This is likely due to it being the path that generates the most money. Now that he hired someone to help, he needs more revenue, and he is opting for the easiest way to earn it, transforming a game that was excellent into an "NTR piece of garbage."

Regarding Kat, in the route where she betrays Luke, I believe she will remain silent, continuing the betrayal behind his back. This is something that, up until one update ago, would have made no sense for her character, but the developer has simply thrown that coherence away.

In the other route, where she did nothing, the situation is also disheartening: I believe Luke won't trust her. He will always suspect she did something, especially when she mentions they slept in the same motel room. The distrust will be intensified by the fact that Luke knows his father desires Kat.

The developer was desperate to give us a reason not to complain about Kat's actions in this update. However, for those who have always remained faithful (to Luke), this makes no sense, just like this entire ridiculous update.

It is seriously disappointing. I don't see how the next update can be good without the changes that so many fans are asking for.

Or maybe, and this is the darkest part, this is exactly what he wants: for their relationship to deteriorate more and more. With Kat thinking Luke betrayed her and Luke thinking she slept with his father, the relationship is likely to end, as she told Pat that she "might come back single from vacation." Why would he include that dialogue if he wasn't thinking of bringing their relationship to an end?

What makes me the most furious is that he thinks he doesn't need to change this now, and intends to make this alteration only late in the game. He must have seen the number of people asking for this fix, and it would not be a big deal to implement it. He is killing his own game and still maintains this decision, even with fans trying to help him undo this mess he created.

 

[Joshy92]

My perception is that the developer will increasingly focus on the NTR route. This is likely due to it being the path that generates the most money. Now that he hired someone to help, he needs more revenue, and he is opting for the easiest way to earn it, transforming a game that was excellent into an "NTR piece of garbage."

Regarding Kat, in the route where she betrays Luke, I believe she will remain silent, continuing the betrayal behind his back. This is something that, up until one update ago, would have made no sense for her character, but the developer has simply thrown that coherence away.

In the other route, where she did nothing, the situation is also disheartening: I believe Luke won't trust her. He will always suspect she did something, especially when she mentions they slept in the same motel room. The distrust will be intensified by the fact that Luke knows his father desires Kat.

The developer was desperate to give us a reason not to complain about Kat's actions in this update. However, for those who have always remained faithful (to Luke), this makes no sense, just like this entire ridiculous update.

It is seriously disappointing. I don't see how the next update can be good without the changes that so many fans are asking for.

Or maybe, and this is the darkest part, this is exactly what he wants: for their relationship to deteriorate more and more. With Kat thinking Luke betrayed her and Luke thinking she slept with his father, the relationship is likely to end, as she told Pat that she "might come back single from vacation." Why would he include that dialogue if he wasn't thinking of bringing their relationship to an end?

What makes me the most furious is that he thinks he doesn't need to change this now, and intends to make this alteration only late in the game. He must have seen the number of people asking for this fix, and it would not be a big deal to implement it. He is killing his own game and still maintains this decision, even with fans trying to help him undo this mess he created.

Holy shit, I missed that, she actually says she might come back single? Even if we haven't cheated on her? That's even fucking worse, what the hell!!

Is that during her sex with Pat?

 

[Dessolos]

Holy shit, I missed that, she actually says she might come back single? Even if we haven't cheated on her? That's even fucking worse, what the hell!!

Is that during her sex with Pat?

it's a talk she has with Pat before they went to sleep forget when it happened exactly but it wasn't during the sex scene

 

[Justaphase]

Holy shit, I missed that, she actually says she might come back single? Even if we haven't cheated on her? That's even fucking worse, what the hell!!

Is that during her sex with Pat?

At the restaurant after Luke leaves and her and Pat are talking. She mentions about the vacation to Spain. Then says about them possibly breaking up and coming back on separate planes by the end. Foreshadowing?
She also seems to make out like things have been bad between them, for some reason?

 

[Joshy92]

At the restaurant after Luke leaves and her and Pat are talking. She mentions about the vacation to Spain. Then says about them possibly breaking up and coming back on separate planes by the end. Foreshadowing?

So it's before the actual ending scene lol. For fuck's sake, I don't play these games for drama. I don't think I should support any developer ever again, tbh.

 

[Dessolos]

At the restaurant after Luke leaves and her and Pat are talking. She mentions about the vacation to Spain. Then says about them possibly breaking up and coming back on separate planes by the end. Foreshadowing?

man now I hate that scene even more cause if that is forced. This might as well be a FMC to me i'm gonna keep playing Because of Kathryn despite hating this update the more I think about it. If that happens I probably won't bother finishing it even just for Kathryn even if they can get back together.

 

[wmrxd]

Yes, she speaks before they leave the restaurant, which is even worse because she hadn't done anything yet. And to me, the developer put that in precisely so that if they break up during the holidays, we already know she's thinking about it well in advance. Yes, she's totally strange in this conversation, saying they're going through a strange and bad phase, when before that they were both happy with everything that's happening. Luke even tells her when she cries out of fear that he comforts her and says everything is okay and that he loves her. Again, as I've been repeating, to me Bobby never planned for Kat to cheat on Luke, but he did it for money, so this update makes no sense, it's just bizarre and bad.

 

[Justaphase]

So it's before the actual ending scene lol. For fuck's sake, I don't play these games for drama. I don't think I should support any developer ever again, tbh.

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