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Yes, she speaks before they leave the restaurant, which is even worse because she hadn't done anything yet. And to me, the developer put that in precisely so that if they break up during the holidays, we already know she's thinking about it well in advance. Yes, she's totally strange in this conversation, saying they're going through a strange and bad phase, when before that they were both happy with everything that's happening. Luke even tells her when she cries out of fear that he comforts her and says everything is okay and that he loves her. Again, as I've been repeating, to me Bobby never planned for Kat to cheat on Luke, but he did it for money, so this update makes no sense, it's just bizarre and bad.
while this is very very unlikely especially after the foreshadowing. But I kind of hope the Vacation is a pure NTS update to make up for this cluster fuck of an update and so we can see them happy again cause honestly I never thought they had any realtionship problems until that line of dialogue.
 
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while this is very very unlikely especially after the foreshadowing. But I kind of hope the Vacation is a pure NTS update to make up for this cluster fuck of an update and so we can see them happy again cause honestly I never thought they had any realtionship problems until that line of dialogue.
Honestly, like you said, I highly doubt that will happen, and even if it does, I don't know if I'd play it because, for me, without her leaving with us, Kat's character died there choosing to stay with the person we hate the most, and after that dialogue she has, it got even worse. I just can't understand why he doesn't simply admit he made a mistake and redo that small change. This has happened in several games, even the dev of My New Girlfriend did it. He admitted that what he released wasn't good, saw that most people found the update strange, and went and changed it. And even then, it wasn't close to what was done here; there it was just a scene that everyone thought was bad, strange, and out of character.
 
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I am mostly happy with this game, but it misses some good opportunities.
I am really disappointed the game didn't go one step further in the beach toilet scene.
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Honestly, like you said, I highly doubt that will happen, and even if it does, I don't know if I'd play it because, for me, without her leaving with us, Kat's character died there choosing to stay with the person we hate the most, and after that dialogue she has, it got even worse. I just can't understand why he doesn't simply admit he made a mistake and redo that small change. This has happened in several games, even the dev of My New Girlfriend did it. He admitted that what he released wasn't good, saw that most people found the update strange, and went and changed it. And even then, it wasn't close to what was done here; there it was just a scene that everyone thought was bad, strange, and out of character.
Yeah I feel that tho I kind have a odd way of seeing the positive in things where there is none even when a dev fucks up like this. How I look at it is this. I enjoyed the game for Kathryn because for me she is a perfect girlfriend even if she does some dumb or questionable things. While the scene where she acts very much out of character , forget how bad and forced the cheating scene as that is another weird and out of character moment imo.

While that scene has ruined Kathryn for alot of people it has not for me and I can still enjoy the game for her even tho I hate everything about that scene and it's shame cause the way she is dressed up is so perfect. But anyways why it has not ruined Kathryn for me unlike others. I put myself in Kathryn's shoes. If it was me Luke telling her to stay and he needs some time alone would put me in a awkward situation. Leaving would feel right but I would want to give Luke some space to calm down and think , especially cause im a introvert and try my best to avoid making people angry or conflict. Staying with Path would feel wrong too , only way I would consider it is if I had no money on me. Because I think what I would choose to do if I was Kathryn leave but not with Luke so he can be alone and have some space , but get a taxi or something after 10 - 15 min.

I think unless Bobby changes his horrible scene id only ever pick the option in chapter 7 for Pat and Kat to go alone. At least that way the scene doesn't play out so badly for me.
 
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Well thought I'd find another NTR writer but I guess I'm still sticking with Void Star and Taboo, I mean I know they're not the best but at least they don't contradict their work.

Can somebody tag me on who the developer was for Pineapple Express, Thank you.
 

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And the thing is, where does he even go from here? Make two separate paths, one where Kath cheated and one where she didn't? Have her lie and have a relationship built on lies.
At least now we know why Bobby was trying so hard to get us to cheat as Luke in chapter 7, probably so that there could be a "Well I can't be mad since I cheated as well." maybe even fucked her Mom?. The problem is, that doesn't work if you've turned down every cheating opportunity. Unless that bullshit story that Clem told Kath about Luke groping her in the shower is going to count.

I keep thinking about Pat as a character to, because his arc is also tanked.

Along with his desire to fuck Kathryn, he did want to rekindle his relationship with Luke. We see this in the motel scene where his brain is bouncing back and forth, knowing its wrong and will ruin the relationship with Luke forever. Well now that is done anyways. Luke will assume Kathryn cheated and that Pat manipulated her into staying out all night. Luke already doesn't want to meet up with Pat, so now he is even more justified in never seeing him again. And he can call up his mom and sister and say "hey dad tried/did ruin my relationship, so don't talk to him." They even made a point to say his sister looks up to Kathryn, so this whole situation with Pat, cheating or not, is a betrayal to not only Luke but to her as well. And Luke's mom probably wouldn't take too kindly to Kathryn doing all this with Pat either.

Regardless of if Kathryn cheated or not, you can't have scenes going forward with Luke and Pat because it should be on sight for Luke. He is done with his dad after this update. Any scenes with them together going forward would just seem forced and will probably be more of the same like the restaurant scene. If Kathryn keeps pushing for Luke to meet with Pat after this, that will be just awfully stupid and a complete disregard of his wishes. And if she meets with Pat in private to "try and fix the situation" or cheat more, it will only get worse.

I can't get over it from a writing standpoint
 
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Üzgünüm, bir oyunun özel başlığında başka oyunların isimlerini vermek hoş karşılanmıyor. Bağlantıyı sana DM'den göndereceğim. Dm plese


Evet, bu satırdan sonrasını okuma zahmetine girmeyeceğim. Çünkü "bölücü teknoloji" dediğimde aslında RENPY'yi kastettiğimi ve yapay zeka animasyonlarının kendisini kastetmediğimi açıkça TAMAMEN yanlış varsaydığınız halde, ne demek istediğinizi anlamadığımı düşünmeniz bana çok komik geliyor. Yani bu nasıl mantıklı olabilir ki? Aslında OP'nin konusu "yapay zekadan kaçınmanın yolları"ydı, "Renpy'den kaçınmanın yolları" değil.

Evet, bunu tartışmanın bir anlamı yok. Ve ısırdığım için kesinlikle benim hatam. Bunu benim açımdan son olarak düşün.
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Okay, I finished the update, and despite it being very short—no more than half an hour of gameplay—I wish it had been a bit longer, especially since the wait was six months. Still, I’d say it’s the best update ever. :love:
I felt like my heart was going to explode from excitement the whole time, especially in
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I don’t understand those who complain about the AI scenes; as a first attempt from Bobby, I find them good, and I’m sure he will improve them in upcoming updates.
Don’t forget how the scenes used to be in previous updates — how poor and modest they were.

Bobbyboy48 , don’t pay attention to those losers; you did a great job in this update. AI motion scenes was so good and better than before.
But please, don’t disappear for too long. Release updates every 3 months as you promised, and you’ll see your subscribers count rise as long as they’re assured the updates will keep coming.
Thank you.
 

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Everyone shouts for months LET HER CHEAT - LET HER CHEAT!
Now,finally you have the OPTION to cheat and everyone hates Kathryn !?

If you play the path dance with Pat (optional cheating!) alone - the storyline is ok…

But the storyline dance with Luke is absolute ridiculous and should be deleted as option completely.
(Sorry,if some names are wrong. I only love and want to see Kathryn)

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And now? Everybody hates Kathryn how she could be weak for the first time….optional.

It seems Luke isn't the only hypocrite.
 
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Okay, I finished the update, and despite it being very short—no more than half an hour of gameplay—I wish it had been a bit longer, especially since the wait was six months. Still, I’d say it’s the best update ever. :love:
I felt like my heart was going to explode from excitement the whole time, especially in
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I don’t understand those who complain about the AI scenes; as a first attempt from Bobby, I find them good, and I’m sure he will improve them in upcoming updates.
Don’t forget how the scenes used to be in previous updates — how poor and modest they were.

Bobbyboy48 , don’t pay attention to those losers; you did a great job in this update. AI motion scenes was so good and better than before.
But please, don’t disappear for too long. Release updates every 3 months as you promised, and you’ll see your subscribers count rise as long as they’re assured the updates will keep coming.
Thank you.
So people who don't agree are losers? Bobby could have said that there'd be nothing for NTS fans this update. And last update because I skipped Luke cheating there was barely anything for me yet again.

Fact is that dance scene shouldn't happen if we don't cheat. He forced the drama on us.
 

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Everyone shouts for months LET HER CHEAT - LET HER CHEAT!
Now,finally you have the OPTION to cheat and everyone hates Kathryn !?

If you play the path dance with Pat (optional cheating!) alone - the storyline is ok…

But the storyline dance with Luke is absolute ridiculous and should be deleted as option completely.
(Sorry,if some names are wrong. I only love and want to see Kathryn)

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It seems Luke isn't the only hypocrite.
Thing is...

Kat can still choose to cheat on Luke with Pat on the Pure/Loyal as well. Your choices before that literally don't matter.

So, having the option to cheat there, in combination with what was established about her character, makes even less sense knowing that Bobby coded it so it can happen - because it shouldn't be able to happen.

And on the full-corruption path, we should still be given the option to avoid betraying our partner-in-NTS-crime for his sleazy father by staying with him for some forsaken reason.

The massive upsetting is because Kathryn is hardcoded into staying the whole night with Pat - at that moment, her future husband's worst enemy - and that shouldn't be something unavoidable, no matter the path.

But clearly, Bobby felt the game lacked drama, since you know, mobsters and criminal conspiracies weren't enough.

EDIT: And also, yeah, the update featured 0 NTS scenes after half a year of development. This is a game that started off as pure sharing/swinging, so how can you justify that? NTR fans waited with baited breath for Kath to finally cheat, but not like this...
 

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Thing is...

Kat can still choose to cheat on Luke with Pat on the Pure/Loyal as well. Your choices before that literally don't matter.

So, having the option to cheat there, in combination with what was established about her character, makes even less sense knowing that Bobby coded it so it can happen - because it shouldn't be able to happen.

And on the full-corruption path, we should still be given the option to avoid betraying our partner-in-NTS-crime for his sleazy father by staying with him for some forsaken reason.

The massive upsetting is because Kathryn is hardcoded into staying the whole night with Pat - at that moment, her future husband's worst enemy - and that shouldn't be something unavoidable, no matter the path.

But clearly, Bobby felt the game lacked drama, since you know, mobsters and criminal conspiracies weren't enough.

EDIT: And also, yeah, the update featured 0 NTS scenes after half a year of development. This is a game that started off as pure sharing/swinging, so how can you justify that? NTR fans waited with baited breath for Kath to finally cheat, but not like this...
I will say if someone likes cheating that scene is well done but I got nothing yet again. The scene doesn't even make sense on the nts path.
 
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Well, dev told me maybe he will adjust or change this Kathryn issue down the line. Which let's be real, means, NO.
If he was ever going to change it, NOW would be the time.

Not changing this scene, is and will be one of the biggest mistakes ever. The dev made this contrived plot and character assassination of one a great and beloved character
You'd need the patrons to be annoyed for it to change. Are the patrons and discord reacting like here? Because if the answer is no then it will likely not be changed. Few devs are going to care about the reaction on a pirate forum. More to the point if the reaction is positive he has every reason to double down. F95 is basically white noise to most devs.
 
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You'd need the patrons to be annoyed for it to change. Are the patrons and discord reacting like here? Because if the answer is no then it will likely not be changed. Few devs are going to care about the reaction on a pirate forum. More to the point if the reaction is postie he has every reason to double down. F95 is basically white noise to most devs.
He doesn't have Discord which I actually think more devs should be like that tbh. Anyway I'm only one sub but I gave my thoughts in the patreon chat.
 

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So people who don't agree are losers? Bobby could have said that there'd be nothing for NTS fans this update. And last update because I skipped Luke cheating there was barely anything for me yet again.

Fact is that dance scene shouldn't happen if we don't cheat. He forced the drama on us.
I meant those who didn’t like the AI scenes.
I don’t know what your problem is with the dance scene; you had the option to cancel it, just as you had the option to refuse Pat’s request to escort Kath for the night out.
I give this chapter a 9 out of 10, and that’s only because it was too short.
 

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I meant those who didn’t like the AI scenes.
I don’t know what your problem is with the dance scene; you had the option to cancel it, just as you had the option to refuse Pat’s request to escort Kath for the night out.
I give this chapter a 9 out of 10, and that’s only because it was too short.
Luke was rude to Kathryn. And like I said no NTS stuff. Kathryn shouldn't have stayed with Pat at all unless Luke cheated. Do you honestly think that last scene is even worth it without the cheating? It's toothless.
 
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