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TonyMurray

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I didn't know they game always used AI if that is true I never noticed cause to me this is the first update with AI
You have to go back a couple of quotes, but I think that comment was relating to Boundaries of Morality, which they were discussing not being allowed on Steam because it looked too realistic. That one has had AI from the start, apparently.

For this game, I haven't played all my paths yet, but I did my "mild corruption" one last night, where Kathryn only goes so far, or only with certain people, and I agree that it's weird you get the Pat cheating set-up/option even on the route where Luke goes dancing with them. She should/would 100% have left with Luke there.

I'll update my thoughts after I complete my remaining saves, but one thing I'll question at the moment, since I'm back there in my second run: When Nate comes over, they are all ready waiting. He arrives, and Kathryn says she's going to "put on that choker and freshen up a bit" - why? They've already got ready, why does she need to do this at all, but especially just when the doorbell goes (other than the obvious ploy to get her out of the way so we can have the Luke/Nate "chat")? However, when she returns... why is it a Queen of Spades choker?
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Is this a case of the dev using an asset without knowing the meaning behind it, as I've seen in a game previously with this symbol? Or is it deliberate? If you take out the excuse to get Kathryn out of the way for Luke and Nate to talk, it looks like specific attention was being brought to this choker. It could have been "I'm just going to freshen up quickly while you get the door" but it was specifically "I'm going to put on that choker and freshen up a bit" like it's a specific choker that they'd at least discussed earlier (not "put on a choker" etc.). I thought this was a bit weird. Maybe understandable if Kathryn (with Luke) has been doing lots of stuff with BBCs up to this point, but that's not even the case here...
 

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This is the Italian translation of :
The East Block [v0.8.2]

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This translation is "unofficial" and "made by a fan"
extract the .rar file and move "game" to the game where the .exe file resides overwrite if required .

Download
 
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Yeah, that does sound really bad. He should rework that part and add a "good path" option, where she leaves with us, cause from the sounds of it, it does seem to make her look bad, and ruins her character a bit.
The scene currently has two variants: If Luke and Kathryn have both been fucking around, they'll have a blazing row and Luke will storm off in a huff. If only one or neither of them has strayed to a significant extent, Luke will have an argument with his dad and still storm off in a huff.

So slightly different set-ups depending on their relationship, but same, not great outcome.


I still need to do a proper NTR save to see if there is anything with the nurse I doubt it but the save I didn't flirt with her so im curious.
The conversation is a bit different, but nothing beyond that for now.

I'll update my thoughts after I complete my remaining saves, but one thing I'll question at the moment, since I'm back there in my second run: When Nate comes over, they are all ready waiting. He arrives, and Kathryn says she's going to "put on that choker and freshen up a bit" - why? They've already got ready, why does she need to do this at all, but especially just when the doorbell goes (other than the obvious ploy to get her out of the way so we can have the Luke/Nate "chat")? However, when she returns... why is it a Queen of Spades choker?
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Is this a case of the dev using an asset without knowing the meaning behind it, as I've seen in a game previously with this symbol? Or is it deliberate? If you take out the excuse to get Kathryn out of the way for Luke and Nate to talk, it looks like specific attention was being brought to this choker. It could have been "I'm just going to freshen up quickly while you get the door" but it was specifically "I'm going to put on that choker and freshen up a bit" like it's a specific choker that they'd at least discussed earlier (not "put on a choker" etc.). I thought this was a bit weird. Maybe understandable if Kathryn (with Luke) has been doing lots of stuff with BBCs up to this point, but that's not even the case here...
Well spotted. I noted that the line was odd, but had stopped paying attention to the visuals by this point and didn't notice what the choker actually looked like. That seems like ... a choice, and as you say, the dialogue specifically draws attention to it.
 
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The writing is I believe the best in the genre, keeps you glued to the screen and doesn't just serve as a lead up to the sex scenes rather the whole plot development. However, the immense delays with very little to the extent of plot development and relatively few sex scenes is kind of disappointing to me, meaning to say that you can almost predict with 90% accuracy what happens in Chapter 8 if you played Chapter 5 which is not always a good thing but rarely there are times where these extended intervals do contribute positively to the overall experience. About AI, only some of the animations were unwelcome, most of the AI animations added to the experience but I can live without it tbh as there are some scenes where the AI totally mucks up the works. Overall, meh update, took too long, did too little, AI is an indicator of decline of a AVN but hope Bobby pulls out of this unscathed and recovers.
 
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How likely is it that a native English speaker could finish 1,200 renders in less than two hours? Not hard, is it?
Renders dont equal playtime. Lines or word count of dialog do equal playtime.
Edit- yall dont have to agree. But the largest part of playtime is people reading speed dependant. Fact. Anyone can click through renders
 
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So is this game ntr or nts swinging? Yall in the comments are confusing and vague .
At this point we don't know what it is. It was NTS heavy and a fair bit of cheating content revolving around MMC. But this latest update has pushed FMC into cheating as well. This pretty much might be a precursor to NTR soon.

There is no swinging content and while I had presumed something like that might happen eventually, the latest development have really steered the boat away from any of that development.
 
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At this point we don't know what it is. It was NTS heavy and a fair bit of cheating content revolving around MMC. But this latest update has pushed FMC into cheating as well. This pretty much might be a precursor to NTR soon.

There is no swinging content and while I had presumed something like that might happen eventually, the latest development have really steered the boat away from any of that development.
im hoping whenever we get the Spain / Holiday update that is a pure NTS one personally or at least the majority of it is
 

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Having one update be NTR focused is fine as long as its not the norm. But her not having an option to leave the dinner with us, is where I draw the line. Its character assassination to me.

She should of left the dinner with us, and then we should of had a loyal and lovely sex scene, just between us, which Bobbyboy48 definitely feels like he has been neglecting scenes between us a bit lately, so this would of been a perfect opportunity to do that and add this.

But as long as this stays as is, It has killed my enjoyment to want to play this game longer, cause its just feels like something Kat would't do. If he adds an option here, reworks this, and adds a sex scene between our lovely couple here, I would be happy to return, otherwise no point with Kathryn's character being ruined to me.
 

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Having one update be NTR focused is fine as long as its not the norm. But her not having an option to leave the dinner with us, is where I draw the line. Its character assassination to me.

She should of left the dinner with us, and then we should of had a loyal and lovely sex scene, just between us, which Bobbyboy48 definitely feels like he has been neglecting scenes between us a bit lately, so this would of been a perfect opportunity to do that and add this.

But as long as this stays as is, It has killed my enjoyment to want to play this game longer, cause its just feels like something Kat would't do. If he adds an option here, reworks this, and adds a sex scene between our lovely couple here, I would be happy to return, otherwise no point with Kathryn's character being ruined to me.
wait - just to be clear since i havent plyaed yet (but dont worry about spoilers) - you're saying if they chose to go to dinner together, they CANT leave together? Kat MUST leave with pat? Or am I misunderstanding?
 

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wait - just to be clear since i havent plyaed yet (but dont worry about spoilers) - you're saying if they chose to go to dinner together, they CANT leave together? Kat MUST leave with pat? Or am I misunderstanding?
Yeah pretty much but you aren't forced to sleep with him at least

Having one update be NTR focused is fine as long as its not the norm. But her not having an option to leave the dinner with us, is where I draw the line. Its character assassination to me.

She should of left the dinner with us, and then we should of had a loyal and lovely sex scene, just between us, which Bobbyboy48 definitely feels like he has been neglecting scenes between us a bit lately, so this would of been a perfect opportunity to do that and add this.

But as long as this stays as is, It has killed my enjoyment to want to play this game longer, cause its just feels like something Kat would't do. If he adds an option here, reworks this, and adds a sex scene between our lovely couple here, I would be happy to return, otherwise no point with Kathryn's character being ruined to me.
Maybe I need to play the scene again and I already forgot some details but it didn't quite ruin her character for me since she tried to calm him him down and leave I thought then Luke told her to stay so she can enjoy the rest of the night ( this is where I thought she should of left or had a choice no matter what Luke said)
 

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No disrespect to the game or dev but who keeps talking all these devs into using AI animations? (...)
I wouldn't be surprised if it's some corporate giant like BlackRock wanting to destroy these games from the inside.
They've tried pushing VISA and MasterCard to bully Steam, it didn't work as well as they hoped.

I hate when a character smiles and their smile never ends, completely ruining their face.
A little bit more smile and it would be a horror game.
 

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I like this update and Katherine is still one of my favorite, sexy and lovely characters.
But I said it before, for me it is her story and I want to watch her explore different things. The unnecessary focus on Luke during her sex scenes, even if he isn't around at all, is a hard mood killer for me. I can understand, why somethings with him have been inside after she had the scene and starts to regret what she has done. But to see his face over and over again, while she has a sex scene isn't necessary and I hope that Bobby will finally change this in the future.
 
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