VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.8.2] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[NewGuy2022]

Honestly my problem is not even with Kathryn really, it's how she and Luke were written in some scenes and how the story was developed this chapter.

On my cheating Luke save where he has fucked Courtney, Kat has fucked Pat, I will forgive her, if the dev has her confess (which I doubt) after all it would be hypocritical to condemn her for what Luke himself has also done.

On my save where Luke hasn't cheated, I won't have Kat cheat either so there won't be an issue. I won't have Luke go to the restaurant, I will assume he get's the message that Kat leaves him at the motel before her phone dies. She won't cheat.
Then we go from there, see what direction Bobby is going to go in next time.

I can appreciate your quid pro quo on your cheating route; I can't help thinking that while I as a player could forgive her for cheating, I would be unwilling to remain with her any longer. The decision would have been less about the infidelity but far more about her choice of partner.

Choosing to cheat with Pat would hurt the MC more than anything else because it involved Pat; it almost would seem to me she selected Pat deliberately to inflict the most pain possible. That would be the part I would be unable to accept.

I can't imagine how the MC would want anything to do with a woman who chose to be with Pat, especially after understanding the dysfunctional relationship between those two and I as the player, if permitted, would break up with her immediately upon learning what happened. And then, of course, I would want to hunt down Pat for revenge.

 

[Joshy92]

I really want chapter nine just so I can put eight behind me. After talking with Bobby I do feel better and all about the future of the game.

But until I'm playing it. I'm going to have that nagging in my mind.

 

[Tinez82]

I was a little disappointed about the bait and switch with Nate and Franklin... Should have at least had a choice option there imo and after the build up of that whole situation, for me it fell a bit flat. But that being said I'm looking forward to next chapter

 

[NewGuy2022]

Choices seem to be in doubt a bit at this point. The dev can recover, perhaps, but fool me once--shame on you; fool me twice? shame on me

 

[sanguinius95]

Honestly my problem is not even with Kathryn really, it's how she and Luke were written in some scenes and how the story was developed this chapter.

On my cheating Luke save where he has fucked Courtney, Kat has fucked Pat, I will forgive her, if the dev has her confess (which I doubt) after all it would be hypocritical to condemn her for what Luke himself has also done.

On my save where Luke hasn't cheated, I won't have Kat cheat either so there won't be an issue. I won't have Luke go to the restaurant, I will assume he get's the message that Kat leaves him at the motel before her phone dies. She won't cheat.
Then we go from there, see what direction Bobby is going to go in next time.

Good choice, I have same

 

[Listander]

I can appreciate your quid pro quo on your cheating route; I can't help thinking that while I as a player could forgive her for cheating, I would be unwilling to remain with her any longer. The decision would have been less about the infidelity but far more about her choice of partner.

Choosing to cheat with Pat would hurt the MC more than anything else because it involved Pat; it almost would seem to me she selected Pat deliberately to inflict the most pain possible. That would be the part I would be unable to accept.

I can't imagine how the MC would want anything to do with a woman who chose to be with Pat, especially after understanding the dysfunctional relationship between those two and I as the player, if permitted, would break up with her immediately upon learning what happened. And then, of course, I would want to hunt down Pat for revenge.

A very good Point, its about the Choice of the Partner.

If Kathryn ended up with Franklin in the Motel. She would phone Luke with the telephone at the reception
Luke would encouraged her to have Sex with Franklin and she would recorded everything with her phone

Luke would have loved it, that's the Difference!
Maybe we get a horny drug solution for the motel incident...

 

[heis3780]

Therein lies my concern. With the turn the writing took during the last update, I'm concerned about how much choice the player retains going forward.

Admittedly, I'm jaded by my experience with other games that eventually force the MC into an NTR situation then require the MC to remain in it as the humiliated cuckold. That's a fine outcome for those who enjoy that sort of thing but rarely am I ever a fan of forced content when it goes against the trend of prior decisions.

I don't have anything against a path going forward without offering choices, as long as the most important choices are offered previously, and the consequences of those choices are felt in the follow-up. But I agree with you about forced paths. Even worse, forced paths that are inconsistent with those important choices. Unless the story properly explains where that development comes from, and this explanation makes sense! But, as you said yourself, "experience with other games" show us many things. One of them is that NTR involving games don't like to waste much time in developing a plot that makes sense, favoring the process and the consequences.
I accept NTR situations when they are consequences of actions. For example, you have the fetish and ask your girl to do it. This happened because of your choice to satisfy your own desires. Whatever happens from here on, is a consequence of you asking your girl to NTR you. But if comes out of nowhere, or for stupid reasons, then not OK.

 

[sanguinius95]

I can appreciate your quid pro quo on your cheating route; I can't help thinking that while I as a player could forgive her for cheating, I would be unwilling to remain with her any longer. The decision would have been less about the infidelity but far more about her choice of partner.

Choosing to cheat with Pat would hurt the MC more than anything else because it involved Pat; it almost would seem to me she selected Pat deliberately to inflict the most pain possible. That would be the part I would be unable to accept.

I can't imagine how the MC would want anything to do with a woman who chose to be with Pat, especially after understanding the dysfunctional relationship between those two and I as the player, if permitted, would break up with her immediately upon learning what happened. And then, of course, I would want to hunt down Pat for revenge.

100% agree with you !

 

[Justaphase]

I can appreciate your quid pro quo on your cheating route; I can't help thinking that while I as a player could forgive her for cheating, I would be unwilling to remain with her any longer. The decision would have been less about the infidelity but far more about her choice of partner.

Choosing to cheat with Pat would hurt the MC more than anything else because it involved Pat; it almost would seem to me she selected Pat deliberately to inflict the most pain possible. That would be the part I would be unable to accept.

I can't imagine how the MC would want anything to do with a woman who chose to be with Pat, especially after understanding the dysfunctional relationship between those two and I as the player, if permitted, would break up with her immediately upon learning what happened. And then, of course, I would want to hunt down Pat for revenge.

I don't really like to insert myself or reality into AVN's, especially games like this one. I very rarely play feeling like I'm the main character, more like an outsider looking in and pulling the strings. Reality is completely different, while I can enjoy a sharing game like this one, would I want to do that in real life? Hell no.

I don't think that Kat "selected" Pat really, other than choosing to stay with him at the restaurant after the argument after Luke leaves. But I put that down to the developer being inconsistent and forcing all paths to converge at the same point, than I do anything else. I think it could have been any guy in that motel room when she was feeling horny.

Kat would likely be like "Of all people, why did it have to be my Mom?!" also and while Kat and Courtney's relationship is nowhere near as bad as Luke and Pat's. They seem to have a strange relationship to me. Like she wants what her daughter has, which isn't uncommon I guess.

I do wonder if Bobby will be brave enough to do an ending or path where Courtney is pregnant with Luke's baby and Kat is pregnant with Pat's. That would certainly be some drama.

 

[Joshy92]

I don't really like to insert myself or reality into AVN's, especially games like this one. I very rarely play feeling like I'm the main character, more like an outsider looking in and pulling the strings. Reality is completely different, while I can enjoy a sharing game like this one, would I want to do that in real life? Hell no.

I don't think that Kat "selected" Pat really, other than choosing to stay with him at the restaurant after the argument after Luke leaves. But I put that down to the developer being inconsistent and forcing all paths to converge at the same point, than I do anything else. I think it could have been any guy in that motel room when she was feeling horny.

Kat would likely be like "Of all people, why did it have to be my Mom?!" also and while Kat and Courtney's relationship is nowhere near as bad as Luke and Pat's. They seem to have a strange relationship to me. Like she wants what her daughter has, which isn't uncommon I guess.

I do wonder if Bobby will be brave enough to do an ending or path where Courtney is pregnant with Luke's baby and Kat is pregnant with Pat's. That would certainly be some drama.

Hopefully Franklin can get some hot sharing scenes in the future with Kathryn. I want him to use his massive black dick to tear her pussy up and own it

Flasher is my first choice to knock up Kath, but if not, I wouldn't say no to Franklin putting a baby in her.

 

[Shiemi Moriyama]

I really want chapter nine just so I can put eight behind me. After talking with Bobby I do feel better and all about the future of the game.

But until I'm playing it. I'm going to have that nagging in my mind.

Well, come visit Bob and say: “Bob, my friend, I came to see you, that all three of us together made the game Chapter 9 in 3 months faster, and then I was the first to test it and play, otherwise the commanders keep me up every night Chapter 8, and I can’t sleep at night.

 

[heis3780]

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[yourmomma]

I can appreciate your quid pro quo on your cheating route; I can't help thinking that while I as a player could forgive her for cheating, I would be unwilling to remain with her any longer. The decision would have been less about the infidelity but far more about her choice of partner.

Choosing to cheat with Pat would hurt the MC more than anything else because it involved Pat; it almost would seem to me she selected Pat deliberately to inflict the most pain possible. That would be the part I would be unable to accept.

I can't imagine how the MC would want anything to do with a woman who chose to be with Pat, especially after understanding the dysfunctional relationship between those two and I as the player, if permitted, would break up with her immediately upon learning what happened. And then, of course, I would want to hunt down Pat for revenge.

I think you need to go outside and touch grass lol

 

[dexterousgecko]

I think you need to go outside and touch grass lol

 

[NewGuy2022]

I think you need to go outside and touch grass lol

You're welcome to disagree. Disagreement doesn't require petty insults, but I suppose you chose that route...

 

[NewGuy2022]

I don't really like to insert myself or reality into AVN's, especially games like this one. I very rarely play feeling like I'm the main character, more like an outsider looking in and pulling the strings. Reality is completely different, while I can enjoy a sharing game like this one, would I want to do that in real life? Hell no.

I don't think that Kat "selected" Pat really, other than choosing to stay with him at the restaurant after the argument after Luke leaves. But I put that down to the developer being inconsistent and forcing all paths to converge at the same point, than I do anything else. I think it could have been any guy in that motel room when she was feeling horny.

Kat would likely be like "Of all people, why did it have to be my Mom?!" also and while Kat and Courtney's relationship is nowhere near as bad as Luke and Pat's. They seem to have a strange relationship to me. Like she wants what her daughter has, which isn't uncommon I guess.

I do wonder if Bobby will be brave enough to do an ending or path where Courtney is pregnant with Luke's baby and Kat is pregnant with Pat's. That would certainly be some drama.

Perhaps you're right, but as the player I can't help seeing involving Pat as deliberately escalating things here. From my read of the dev's post about this episode, I feel even more strongly about this since he admits he wanted to provoke extra drama here (my words, not his).

To me, the pregnancies would be a positive development since they might make a break-up (a better outcome, IMO) more likely.

In the end, it's the developer's story (increasingly so) so I guess I'll just have to read what he writes; I tend not to like cheating stories so we'll see, I suppose. If only I could get over my need to finish the things I start.

 

[dexterousgecko]

Perhaps you're right, but as the player I can't help seeing involving Pat as deliberately escalating things here. From my read of the dev's post about this episode, I feel even more strongly about this since he admits he wanted to provoke extra drama here (my words, not his).

To me, the pregnancies would be a positive development since they might make a break-up (a better outcome, IMO) more likely.

In the end, it's the developer's story (increasingly so) so I guess I'll just have to read what he writes; I tend not to like cheating stories so we'll see, I suppose. If only I could get over my need to finish the things I start.

I'm actually okay with the 'milder' ntr stuff like Franklin poking her a bit, or her getting into some hijinks without the MC. The Pat stuff is very much psychological and much darker imo.

Something like "my wife's a star" can have a similar experience, but other than the final scene, a lot of the NTR is played off much lighter and not meant to hurt someone.

Then again, this is just a porn game, so really...what are we expecting

 

[Joshy92]

Bobby did say Kathryn can get knocked up by other men. I hope so fucking much that doesn't mean just Pat.

I want it to be Charlie and I so want it to be wholesome and for Luke to be excited about being a father.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Played again to understand giving Pat an option in the hotel it was odd when I first played it. After playing it again I feel the dev attempted to show Pats conscience. I hope that was his goal anything else doesn't make sense.

 

[NewGuy2022]

That's intriguing. I'll have to try to look for that.

Putting "Pat" and "conscience" in the same sentence is something I never would've considered before reading your post.