VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.8.3] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[redoubt27]

yeah it would be better to check back next time it updates. Cause I think that will truly determine if this was a one time thing to give NTR fans something or if the direction is actually changing to NTR.

That's where I'm at...next update, see how this fiasco of a situation plays out...
Disappointed, yeah. Mad, nah.
While this update didn't feel good, or right, at all, not giving the choice to have Kathryn leave with Luke is the absolute worst part of this...
You have to turn down some choices, but choices are there to avoid stuff I see folks complaining about.
There's some thoughts/choices, with Pat, and not having Kathryn cheat, that gives a little glimmer of hope that this is just another boat has capsized story situation, but will have the chance to right itself in the next scene/update...
Will wait and see, just not holding my breath...

 

[Dessolos]

Okay. So another thread goes toxic.Too bad. It is a great game.

been toxic for about a year or so id say

 

[sofuckyyy]

I prefer NTS over NTR myself and still enjoyed the update. Everything NTR related is completely avoidable and while the story isn't as amazing as it usually is (if you skip all the NTR scenes), it is still logical and coherant. I'm sure it will flow better after future updates but all these people complaining like the game is over for NTS enjoyers are just being overly dramatic.

Other than the AI scenes being a bit too frequent.. the only real valid criticism I think you could make is the lack of content for the amount of dev time from last release (if you are in the NTS only boat). He's kind of slowed down in updates but is still faster than most other devs releasing games of this quality so hopefully a more steady pace means he can avoid burn-out.

Personally, I am glad he is seeing a spike in supporters after this update (at an all time high). Hopefully he is encouraged and will pump out the next update even quicker.

 

[Dessolos]

I prefer NTS over NTR myself and still enjoyed the update. Everything NTR related is completely avoidable and while the story isn't as amazing as it usually is (if you skip all the NTR scenes), it is still logical and coherant. I'm sure it will flow better after future updates but all these people complaining like the game is over for NTS enjoyers are just being overly dramatic.

Other than the AI scenes being a bit too frequent.. the only real valid criticism I think you could make is the lack of content for the amount of dev time from last release (if you are in the NTS only boat). He's kind of slowed down in updates but is still faster than most other devs releasing games of this quality so hopefully a more steady pace means he can avoid burn-out.

Personally, I am glad he is seeing a spike in supporters after this update (at an all time high). Hopefully he is encouraged and will pump out the next update even quicker.

I would agree if I didn't feel Kathryn didn't act out of character during the NTR scene and the dance if you go with Luke . The dance was more of the issue could care less I found the motel / NTR scene forced and out of character personally since I see that as fan service for the NTR fans that been wanting that for awhile now. The dance scene on the Luke goes with path really has been the main complaint for most myself included I believe . My worry about lack of NTS now or in the future really isn't an issue to worry about yet for me but the update and a few things ive read does feel like that is a possibility but yeah too soon to say if that is the case.

 

[xert13]

https://f95zone.to/threads/detective-necro-v0-55-hotfix-blackhandgames.115137/post-13450012 Can't remember the other one.

…there are a-holes on both sides. Some purposefully give low ratings on NTR themed VNs just to hate. Plus, lost count the number of times I’ve read *insert NTR insult here* followed by “Oh, not fetish shaming, like what you want.” Frankly, there are two themes here - some are very disappointed with the quality of the update. Others are upset over the content of the update if on a certain path. I certainly understand the latter if you didn’t like the use of AI. The former I don’t get unless you were given no choice. The Dev seems to be following his subs, if not he will reap the consequences.

 

[xert13]

Hi!
My point is not difficult to see, Bobby is a sellout. It is very clear with this update. The characters act drastically different than in the 7 chapters before, even an all-around a... as Nathan. In the early chapters Nathan was clearly amused by Luke, even liked him a bit (even if he still wanted into Kati´s knickers), now he suddenly hates Luke and with absurd reasons.
The ending of the update is hardcoded towards NTR. It is glaringly obvious that Bobby now only caters to the NTR fans, there was nothing for the love and sharing/swinging paths.

Jeezus, it was one update. People are acting like the Dev shot your dog. Not sure how many updates on other games I play I thought were “meh” or emphasized a path I didn’t like. Never would think to call the Dev “trash” or act like an 8 year old flipping a chess board. One NTR flavored scene on one path and now “he only caters to the NTR fans.” Based on ONE update. For fucks sake.

 

[Dessolos]

Jeezus, it was one update. People are acting like the Dev shot your dog. Not sure how many updates on other games I play I thought were “meh” or emphasized a path I didn’t like. Never would think to call the Dev “trash” or act like an 8 year old flipping a chess board. One NTR flavored scene on one path and now “he only caters to the NTR fans.” Based on ONE update. For fucks sake.

that's not even the problem.... maybe for some but I wouldn't say that's what most have issue with since it's avoidable.

 

[ZeroInt0]

Please can the F95Zone Team add an Ai Tag to the Game Thread.
Ignored it myself already but would be good so it gets Ignored automatically for the people that Ignored the Tag.
Or for the People that seek out the tag.. if they exist.
BaasB (Latest Update came with new Ai Videos and Still shots).

 

[regis nex]

That photoshoot scene was funny lol

She dipped too low, and is now going to crave more. Scene could have easily been avoided for it not the dude to turn around and just kept an eye on them.

I'm excited for the coming updates how SHE'S going to decide now and not the dude.

 

[bulbor]

I prefer NTS over NTR myself and still enjoyed the update. Everything NTR related is completely avoidable and while the story isn't as amazing as it usually is (if you skip all the NTR scenes), it is still logical and coherant. I'm sure it will flow better after future updates but all these people complaining like the game is over for NTS enjoyers are just being overly dramatic.

Other than the AI scenes being a bit too frequent.. the only real valid criticism I think you could make is the lack of content for the amount of dev time from last release (if you are in the NTS only boat). He's kind of slowed down in updates but is still faster than most other devs releasing games of this quality so hopefully a more steady pace means he can avoid burn-out.

Personally, I am glad he is seeing a spike in supporters after this update (at an all time high). Hopefully he is encouraged and will pump out the next update even quicker.

The issue here is not NTR or NTS, In fact I do enjoy both occasionally. The people who voted for NTR just did what they're supposed to do, they wanted NTR and were willing to pay for it, it's all well and good.
The issue here is trust. How can we who have supported the developer thus far ever trust him again when he goes back on his word and sells his soul for money. What changes will he make in the future for the highest bidder?

 

[TonyMurray]

It's better for the action to happen sooner rather than dragging it out for years, like in many famous games where nothing happens in years.

If you think that's the issue, you haven't been reading any of the criticism you're responding to.

Please can the F95Zone Team add an Ai Tag to the Game Thread.
Ignored it myself already but would be good so it gets Ignored automatically for the people that Ignored the Tag.
Or for the People that seek out the tag.. if they exist.
BaasB (Latest Update came with new Ai Videos and Still shots).

You can request new tags are added by going to the OP, reporting the post, and in the "more information" box, suggest new tags to add based on content now in the game.

 

[Turret]

Jeezus, it was one update. People are acting like the Dev shot your dog. Not sure how many updates on other games I play I thought were “meh” or emphasized a path I didn’t like. Never would think to call the Dev “trash” or act like an 8 year old flipping a chess board. One NTR flavored scene on one path and now “he only caters to the NTR fans.” Based on ONE update. For fucks sake.

Hey, be cautious what you are writing! I never called him "trash", just a sellout, which he is evidently. The game started with a focus clearly on love and sharing/swinging paths, this update there were zero(!) scenes belonging fully to either the love or sharing/swinging paths! Characters acted obviously different than established in the 7 chapters before.
This was an update completely catering to the NTR fans with the "crowning" moment where Bobby hardcoded that Kati stays with the a... Dad instead of going with Luke.
This is a forced NTR scene, how should we as the players prefering the love and sharing/swinging paths ever trust Bobby again? It is clear he caved in to the NTR fans, since the characters act different than before and you cannot evade a hardcoded event.

 

[Dessolos]

Hey, be cautious what you are writing! I never called him "trash", just a sellout, which he is evidently. The game started with a focus clearly on love and sharing/swinging paths, this update there were zero(!) scenes belonging fully to either the love or sharing/swinging paths! Characters acted obviously different than established in the 7 chapters before.
This was an update completely catering to the NTR fans with the "crowning" moment where Bobby hardcoded that Kati stays with the a... Dad instead of going with Luke.
This is a forced NTR scene, how should we as the players prefering the love and sharing/swinging paths ever trust Bobby again? It is clear he caved in to the NTR fans, since the characters act different than before and you cannot evade a hardcoded event.

I would say the set up was forced but the NTR wasn't forced. but I can't disagree with the rest sadly

 

[Filipis]

I would say the set up was forced but the NTR wasn't forced. but I can't disagree with the rest sadly

This.

Kath cheating on Luke was inevitable, but the way the developer wrote it was too contrived - and while the scene itself was sexy & erotic, the build-up wasn’t there and it “ruined” Kath’s character (aphrodisiac or no).

 

[Freedom9555]

Great update so far.
With the s** scene with father in law was great, but a missionary scene was missing and some Dialog.
That creampie should have given her some pregnancy scare.

 

[King Cule]

Bobby after released this update:

 

[Filipis]

That creampie should have given her some pregnancy scare.

I think Kath mentioned going on birth control now that she’s basically begun fucking other guys (NTS), so the creampie will unfortunately not be of consequence

 

[Justaphase]

I think Kath mentioned going on birth control now that she’s basically begun fucking other guys (NTS), so the creampie will unfortunately not be of consequence

I think she just took the morning after pill (twice if she went all the way at the glory hole) so I believe that Pat was entirely unprotected. So there could be a pregnancy scare I believe. Kath and Luke even spoke about having a baby at the end of chapter 7.

 

[whoabacha]

If you think that's the issue, you haven't been reading any of the criticism you're responding to.

You can request new tags are added by going to the OP, reporting the post, and in the "more information" box, suggest new tags to add based on content now in the game.

I asked in a report and they gave a detailed explanation of why they won't add an AI tag for a game with AI in it with a reply of 'No', brilliant stuff.

 

[Freedom9555]

I think she just took the morning after pill (twice if she went all the way at the glory hole) so I believe that Pat was entirely unprotected. So there could be a pregnancy scare I believe. Kath and Luke even spoke about having a baby at the end of chapter 7.

That was also my understanding, I hope this will not be forgotten in the game.