VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.8.3] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[Justaphase]

What is the reason for the game losing the "swinging" tag?

Because there is no "swinging" in the game? Luke and Kath don't actually do anything together, no threesome or anything. At best he just watches and encourages. Besides this story is now about NTR/cheating not swinging or sharing.

 

[Joshy92]

Did the Swinging/NTR pick every single option route

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Will see how it goes I suppose.

He only cheats if we choose those options. I never cheated and that scene still ends in an argument.

 

[Justaphase]

I didn't see an NTR scene with Albert. Unless it was her willingly jacking him off in the tub.

Some of the AI animations were good. Though I thought there were too many of them. It kept pausing and not advancing until some of the silly animations were finished. Especially the one of Nate laughing. Good gosh I wanted to punch the screen and almost quit after seeing that.

As for Luke I don't care at all about him. He can cheat all he wants as far as I am concerned. I just want to see the lovely Katherine having sex with someone other than Luke. Though I admit that one Bj scene with him was pretty good when she swallowed the load.

Overall I thought it was a decent update. Just maybe tone down some of the AI animations.

Actual fucking nightmares.

 

[Natasha_Mua]

Well, I'm going down the path that Karin went on a date with Luke's father, and in the hotel you still have a choice: masturbate your pussy - that's clear, that will lead to sex and everything else, and there is a choice not to jerk off your dumpling, and there will be no sex, and that's it, the other way I don't know how things are there. And each player has their own path with the choices that they have made since Chapter 7, such will be the choices and the influence on the choices you have

 

[Justaphase]

Well, I'm going down the path that Karin went on a date with Luke's father, and in the hotel you still have a choice: masturbate your pussy - that's clear, that will lead to sex and everything else, and there is a choice not to jerk off your dumpling, and there will be no sex, and that's it, the other way I don't know how things are there. And each player has their own path with the choices that they have made since Chapter 7, such will be the choices and the influence on the choices you have

The issue is the absence of any NTS/sharing options not the fact that the NTR scenes are there. I will admit that ignoring everything else the scenes themselves are hot. NTR should be added for those who want it but not completely replace NTS/sharing.

 

[AFSRS]

Because there is no "swinging" in the game? Luke and Kath don't actually do anything together, no threesome or anything. At best he just watches and encourages. Besides this story is now about NTR/cheating not swinging or sharing.

There is one scene in the game with the Flasher (double handjob).

The story has swing/sharing stuff, It doesn't make sense to remove that tag.

 

[Goodthrust]

Okay, now I’ve completed my playthrough, I’ll drop my overall thoughts on Chapter 8. Because I’ll give some specific examples, I’ll throw it all under a spoiler tag, for those who haven’t played (or just don’t want to read a “wall of text”)!

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TLDR: I thought this was a good update in terms of the story (and also a bit in terms of the choices), with a couple of good, hot scenes, but I think it was spoiled quite a bit by the AI animations that were absolutely far too frequent and were often (IMO) not good enough.

you can skip ai animations by pressing ctrl key if you have skip unseen text on

 

[Pachirisu]

Also previously wouldn't Kathryn reject sexual situations if you hadn't built her up enough, right? Like if Luke pushed her, she would get uncomfortable, shut it down, and Luke would feel bad.

So on a pure path, why is she even able to fuck Pat at all? If you haven't fooled around at all, she should immediately go to sleep because she wouldn't have the requirements to even consider cheating. But it seems that was thrown out the window?

 

[Joshy92]

you can skip ai animations by pressing ctrl key if you have skip unseen text on

Are you sure? I don't think it worked for me. And I always have that option enabled.

 

[only MILF]

Try this mod.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Having one update be NTR focused is fine as long as its not the norm. But her not having an option to leave the dinner with us, is where I draw the line. Its character assassination to me.

She should of left the dinner with us, and then we should of had a loyal and lovely sex scene, just between us, which Bobbyboy48 definitely feels like he has been neglecting scenes between us a bit lately, so this would of been a perfect opportunity to do that and add this.

But as long as this stays as is, It has killed my enjoyment to want to play this game longer, cause its just feels like something Kat would't do. If he adds an option here, reworks this, and adds a sex scene between our lovely couple here, I would be happy to return, otherwise no point with Kathryn's character being ruined to me.

I completely agree with your statement. Having one update lean into NTR vibes is tolerable if it stays rare, but forcing Kat to stay behind with Pat while Luke was made to leave alone completely crosses the line into character assassination.

Here s my take, in my own words, because this whole sequence on the pure/loyal path has been driving me insane:

Even though nothing physical happened, the way every single scene is framed screams that Kat cheated emotionally. Why did she let Luke drive off alone into a "storm"? Why didn t she immediately go with him? Most importantly....why the hell was there no player choice like "Leave with Luke" or "Stay with Pat"? What loving girlfriend in her right mind ditches her boyfriend after a huge fight and spends the night with some creepy old fart? We re talking 60–100 miles from New Jersey back to NYC depending on the exact spot...did Luke take a taxi, a train, or what? Pat s driving an SUV through pouring rain…so what?!? With these kind of Cars you can drive through Tornado Season and the Car wouldn t even blink...but a little rain...and he has to stop the Car?!?! Yeah! Right!

Then the motel: what was even the point of the "Pat spies on her in the shower" choice if it changes nothing? Once they re at the motel, why doesn t she pick up the landline and call Luke, if her Cell is most likely dead? Every motel has a phone at the front desk at least! Why doesn t she insist on her own room? The next morning there s zero dialogue between them, no proper goodbye, nothing....and Kat just sits in the car looking depressed, sad and guilty even though (on MY path) she didn t actually do anything wrong (besides spending her night in a creepy motel for almost no reason). Question after question, and none of it makes sense for the loyal Kat we ve been building the entire game.

The whole sequence feels completely wrong and forced on the pure path. And don t even get me started on those creepy AI generated Scenes....whatever happened to the beautiful animated scenes we used to have? The magic is gone.

Like you said: give us the choice to leave with Luke, followed by a proper, loving, loyal only sex scene to make up for the fight (something the game has desperately needed lately anyway), and most of us would come running back. Until that rework happens, Kathryn s character feels ruined for a part of the fanbase, and a lot of us (me included) have zero motivation to keep playing.

This reminds me so much of the almost very beginning....that first shady photoshoot with Kat and that nutbag Nate… geez. Kat literally called Luke because Nate wanted to do topless shots. Bobby gave us a choice and we could deny the request… and then, just a few in-game minutes later, Kat was standing in front of the camera with her boobs barely covered… and her crotch exposed… and shortly after that (again with zero player choice) she was fully naked in front of the camera!! That wasn t hilarious – it was infuriating and illogical! Bobby never fixed that Scene!

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

I just don't understand how Catherine was talking on the phone if you could see there was NO SIGNAL

She probably recorded a voice message on WhatsApp. Those messages get sent automatically from the phone as soon as it regains signal!

 

[TonyMurray]

you can skip ai animations by pressing ctrl key if you have skip unseen text on

I don't think this worked in all cases (but definitely did in some), but it's not feasible for general play, because you'd then miss dialogue as well. As an example of how I was wanting to skip them during general play: I had an animation of Kathryn modelling lingerie. Once I'd seen a few frames of it, I was ready to move on, especially since it was no different to the previous time except for the outfit itself. With a normal animation, left-clicking or hitting "space" would stop the animation and go to the next frame or line of dialogue. Here, it did nothing until the animation finished.

I also don't tend to play with skip unseen on. I'll play my first path and then use skip on my subsequent paths so I can quickly get through what I've already seen and then automatically stop when something new/different comes up.

 

[SerasAshrein]

Now imagine Bob decides to add a new character in chapter 10 or 11, and there's a FUTA girl in there, and she and Katherine become best friends, and they hang out in clubs and drink, and then she fucks her in every hole in the club bathroom, and then on the beach, and all that jazz, it'll be funny to watch.

 

[stillspiff]

Well, I'm going down the path that Karin went on a date with Luke's father, and in the hotel you still have a choice: masturbate your pussy - that's clear, that will lead to sex and everything else, and there is a choice not to jerk off your dumpling, and there will be no sex, and that's it, the other way I don't know how things are there. And each player has their own path with the choices that they have made since Chapter 7, such will be the choices and the influence on the choices you have

of course i went the same way i'm a pervert too now the barstard dev has us waiting for 2 months to see the result or he might knock it out b4 xmas or if he reads this in 2 weeks. if he does read this then please just let me know now

forgot to add the mini ani's were great the lingerie show was superb

 

[SevereHomosexual]

Does anyone else feel that this game has great potential to segue into Soap Opera territory? The drama among people, the secret drug plot, the dangerous characters, the psychological horror overtones. I think a SFW version of this game or it written as a for female audience novel may do major numbers.

 

[Manoftheworld]

This game started as an entertaining, fun/naughty adventure, but has taken a turn towards a full fledged criminal drama. I honestly don't care about the porn of it anymore, I'm just worried about the characters, I'm worried about Rebecca, that she's gonna be around that scum Santini and his pal. Kath and Luke will be there for one another, but Beca's mostly by herself, at least we do get some choices for her so that hopefully we can keep her in check. Also hopefully she can bond with Luke a bit now that they'll be working in the same place, that relationship has potential, but we've only gotten one beach scene so far.
I'm also glad we got a choice for the Dad to not open the bathroom door. Very good character writing and natural character dynamics in this game, you've also managed to make multiple villains I can't stand the sight of, well done Dev. Just make sure every main character gets a happy ending... also a DLC where you can beat Santini, Mancini and Nate to a bloody pulp would be welcome I say half jokingly.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I completely agree with your statement. Having one update lean into NTR vibes is tolerable if it stays rare, but forcing Kat to stay behind with Pat while Luke was made to leave alone completely crosses the line into character assassination.

Here s my take, in my own words, because this whole sequence on the pure/loyal path has been driving me insane:

Even though nothing physical happened, the way every single scene is framed screams that Kat cheated emotionally. Why did she let Luke drive off alone into a "storm"? Why didn t she immediately go with him? Most importantly....why the hell was there no player choice like "Leave with Luke" or "Stay with Pat"? What loving girlfriend in her right mind ditches her boyfriend after a huge fight and spends the night with some creepy old fart? We re talking 60–100 miles from New Jersey back to NYC depending on the exact spot...did Luke take a taxi, a train, or what? Pat s driving an SUV through pouring rain…so what?!? With these kind of Cars you can drive through Tornado Season and the Car wouldn t even blink...but a little rain...and he has to stop the Car?!?! Yeah! Right!

Then the motel: what was even the point of the "Pat spies on her in the shower" choice if it changes nothing? Once they re at the motel, why doesn t she pick up the landline and call Luke, if her Cell is most likely dead? Every motel has a phone at the front desk at least! Why doesn t she insist on her own room? The next morning there s zero dialogue between them, no proper goodbye, nothing....and Kat just sits in the car looking depressed, sad and guilty even though (on MY path) she didn t actually do anything wrong (besides spending her night in a creepy motel for almost no reason). Question after question, and none of it makes sense for the loyal Kat we ve been building the entire game.

The whole sequence feels completely wrong and forced on the pure path. And don t even get me started on those creepy AI generated Scenes....whatever happened to the beautiful animated scenes we used to have? The magic is gone.

Like you said: give us the choice to leave with Luke, followed by a proper, loving, loyal only sex scene to make up for the fight (something the game has desperately needed lately anyway), and most of us would come running back. Until that rework happens, Kathryn s character feels ruined for a part of the fanbase, and a lot of us (me included) have zero motivation to keep playing.

This reminds me so much of the almost very beginning....that first shady photoshoot with Kat and that nutbag Nate… geez. Kat literally called Luke because Nate wanted to do topless shots. Bobby gave us a choice and we could deny the request… and then, just a few in-game minutes later, Kat was standing in front of the camera with her boobs barely covered… and her crotch exposed… and shortly after that (again with zero player choice) she was fully naked in front of the camera!! That wasn t hilarious – it was infuriating and illogical! Bobby never fixed that Scene!

Yeah without the option for her to leave at that stage you may as well of killed the relationship

Doesn't matter if you play it completely pure / if Luke just cheats and she's pure or if like let's her have fun or what ever other combos there is

All luke knows is that his girlfriend choose to stay at the restaurant with his dad ( who he hates and believes he's trying to fuck her) and that she didn't come home until some time the next day

That scene is judge,jury and executioner to the relationship as all he will be thinking realistically is she fucked my dad and it's not gonna matter if she says other wise and the moment the motel gets mentioned it's only gonna seal it

 

[SevereHomosexual]

I get it would have made the wait longer, but having the option for Kath to leave with Luke would have been much better. It's just cheap drama, and the worst part is him being mean to Kathryn. I hate when the MC is rude to women in these games.

Replayed the game multiple times and you are absolutely right, at no point in the game or choices or Kath's general demeanour is there an indication that Kath would have decided to stay with Pat instead of Luke. That is insane that the dev went with this aspect hardwired into the ending of the chapter.

 

[xorcist]

Damn. What the fuck was that update?

A masterpiece. This update may be the best thing I've played on this site.

The story, the facial expressions, the naturality and flow of the movements.. the realistic dialogues.

All developers should learn from this one.