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Joshy92

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So I'm going to take that advice and ignore the thread again for now. Sorry for getting so emotional guys it's just this game and Kathryn mean so much to me. It wa the reason I rejoined Patreon after all.

But a break will do me good so bye for now friends.
 

Xill

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So I saw before that there was dialogue between Kat and Pat and her saying she might come back single from the vacation. This is after the dance right?

Well I didn't get that dialogue. Also Luke never went to the dance to begin with, and that's cause of a choice I made like a year ago or something.

Kat also didn't sit on Franklin's cock this update, or jerk of Albert. She also didn't masturbate at the hotel so nothing happened. Luke was worried, makes sense since the phones didn't have signal. But that can just be cleared up easily.

Not sure what's going on with the route where Luke goes to the dance though, sounds lame. Anyway I'm not getting any NTR vibes from my route.
 

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So I saw before that there was dialogue between Kat and Pat and her saying she might come back single from the vacation. This is after the dance right?

Well I didn't get that dialogue. Also Luke never went to the dance to begin with, and that's cause of a choice I made like a year ago or something.

Kat also didn't sit on Franklin's cock this update, or jerk of Albert. She also didn't masturbate at the hotel so nothing happened. Luke was worried, makes sense since the phones didn't have signal. But that can just be cleared up easily.

Not sure what's going on with the route where Luke goes to the dance though, sounds lame. Anyway I'm not getting any NTR vibes from my route.
Yeah Ironically the choice that many thought would lead to NTR ( Luke not going to the dance with Pat and Kat) feels the best imo. While id argue the motel scene still has a NTR feel to it even if you don't go with that choice. Just because it does feel kind of weird not to get separate rooms
 

Xill

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I believe Luke won't trust her. He will always suspect she did something, especially when she mentions they slept in the same motel room. The distrust will be intensified by the fact that Luke knows his father desires Kat.
But why can't that be a simple choice of "trust/believe her" and "don't trust/don't believe her" that you get to make as Luke? You got a choice before during the webcam stream to apologize or not. Seems like a good spot to make a choice like that.

Or maybe, and this is the darkest part, this is exactly what he wants: for their relationship to deteriorate more and more. With Kat thinking Luke betrayed her and Luke thinking she slept with his father, the relationship is likely to end, as she told Pat that she "might come back single from vacation." Why would he include that dialogue if he wasn't thinking of bringing their relationship to an end?
Does this only happen if Luke goes to the dance?

While id argue the motel scene still has a NTR feel to it even if you don't go with that choice. Just because it does feel kind of weird not to get separate rooms
This is a trope. I've seen it in other VN's where it's supposed to be about sharing. The updates end at that part too. The difference here is that there's a choice between actually going NTR or not.
 

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This is a trope. I've seen it in other VN's where it's supposed to be about sharing. The updates end at that part too. The difference here is that there's a choice between actually going NTR or not.
Yeah I should of said NTR setup cause one thing this game does right is give you a chance to say no to NTR
 
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We weren't given the chance to tell Pat to piss off and leave the couple alone. That's my main issue with this whole thing. I DID NOT WANT TO SEE PAT EVER AGAIN after the last meeting, ffs.
Obviously he's meant to be a big part of the story now, so both routes, if you can call 'nothing happens' route a real route, WILL involve him.
 

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Holy shit that AI video of Nathan laughing was cursed. People really need to be more critical of their products when using AI.
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I kind of feel he left that in as a joke to be honest cause there is no way he thought it was good. Especially cause the game seems to always have this creepy smile / facial expressions from time to time like in the subway so I felt like it had to be on purpose.
 

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Just finished the update. I enjoyed it - because I like the developer's writing and presentation style, but I'm also definitely more of a NTR fan than NTS fan. I've been waiting for the NTR stuff and we finally got it, albeit with some "porn plot".

Some of the AI stuff was kinda bad, but in general, I like the addition of animations, especially the non-sex ones. The bad animations were the ones in the apartment - like the dancing one and the one where she is modeling the clothes. The one with Nate laughing is certainly cartoonish, but I thought this was by design and so I didn't mind it. Also, I knew that this was a new implemenation for the developer, so I thought it was pretty good for first time and I expect him to get even better.

I fully agree that Kat would/should leave with Luke after the fight. There's really no circumstance where she would stay alone with Pat. (And for the same reason, why would she ever go to the dance alone with Pat? Ehh porn plot, I guess.) Also, stopping to spend the night at the motel because it's raining is pretty laughable. And of course, no rooms with two beds.

However, I love how the developer uses the fade transitions between renders to set up scenes. For me, it creates a cinematic effect and I personally love it. Also, the final scene where it's going back and forth between Luke pondering and Kat getting plowed is so, so great. I am a patreon supporter FTR and this cinematic technique is worth my support.

I'm probably one of only a few with this kink, but I thought this was an opportunity for Kat to call someone "daddy" during sex. IMO would have been great if it went like this - shot of Luke looking all sad and regretful for being a petulant child and wondering what Kat is doing at that moment... and then jump-cut to her screaming daddy as she is getting railed.

To conclude, I enjoyed it, but I understand the criticism regarding the choices made. Some people really hate AI and animations, and although I'm not one of of them, I can agree not all of them were good. I'd much rather read this type of criticism than all the wankers crying about how long the updates take.
 
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Joshy92

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I know I said I was leaving but I just wanted to say I do feel better now, I hope I didn't worry my friends in here.

I'm looking to the future now and imagining Kathryn getting her pussy absolutely destroyed by some hung stud. Hopefully flasher is very virile :BootyTime:

So yeah you guys are looking at the new and improved Joshy. Let's get excited for chapter 9.
 

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So I saw before that there was dialogue between Kat and Pat and her saying she might come back single from the vacation. This is after the dance right?

Well I didn't get that dialogue. Also Luke never went to the dance to begin with, and that's cause of a choice I made like a year ago or something.

Kat also didn't sit on Franklin's cock this update, or jerk of Albert. She also didn't masturbate at the hotel so nothing happened. Luke was worried, makes sense since the phones didn't have signal. But that can just be cleared up easily.

Not sure what's going on with the route where Luke goes to the dance though, sounds lame. Anyway I'm not getting any NTR vibes from my route.
Yeah, you have the options to avoid it all - you can choose not to do the lube ad, which removes the Franklin bit completely, or even if you do it, there's a choice for Kathryn to go further or not. Same with Albert, although it's hard coded to get there, there's a choice to do the handjob or not. With Pat, again, it's hard coded to get there, but then there are three (I think) choices that are pretty obvious in building up to the cheating (masturbate or not, tease Pat or not, invite him to join or not).

In terms of the dialogue bit, it's after dancing, when Kathryn and Pat are sitting on the sofa talking. Luke and Kathryn have a fight and Luke leaves, Kathryn tells Pat about the trip to Spain and he says it sounds like a good opportunity to sort out their relationship issues. Kathryn responds by saying "I just hope we won't be coming back home on different planes." This line comes up twice in the script (so depending on two different variables) but both are following Luke leaving, so it looks like you don't see the line if Luke isn't there in the first place.

It sounds like you're playing a pretty faithful/loyal save, with those options in this update, so having Kathryn go dancing with Pat and not choosing for Luke to accompany them feels a bit risky! On the other hand, by having Luke stay home, there's no fight, there's no talk about potentially breaking up in Spain, and you can go straight to sleep without getting into anything of a situation with Pat in the motel (and can even choose not to have Pat spy on Kathryn in the shower), so perhaps it turned out to be the "safest" route after all!
 
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On the other hand, by having Luke stay home, there's no fight, there's no talk about potentially breaking up in Spain, and you can go straight to sleep without getting into anything of a situation with Pat in the motel (and can even choose not to have Pat spy on Kathryn in the shower), so perhaps it turned out to be the "safest" route after all!
This is certainly not what we expected. I'm fine with having the odd surprise outcome, but having both routes lead to Kat and Pat staying at the motel just feels like Bobby wants people to choose the cheating option.
Mostly due to the fact that without this or the Franklin scene, theres very little content in this update other than a blowjob or Kat stroking Albert's dick for a few seconds.
I'm guessing that Luke will never fully believe that nothing happened at the motel between Kat and Pat, even if she didn't do anything. So he needed both paths to arrive at the same point?
 

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Honestly Pat isn't my most hated guy still after the update he is my 3rd most disliked guy. #1 is Santi , #2 Domonic , then Pat
 
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