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NewGuy2022

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Not sure I can get behind this unless there is a way to do it without Luke catching a Murder charge and Kathryn finding out. I can't do that do that to Kathryn making her sad and worry about us cause we are in jail not to mention what she would think of Luke.
For me, if it's pretty obvious that Luke killed Pat but not conclusively proven, that would be a good outcome. Everyone would understand Luke's position on cheating and would think twice before betraying him again. Of course, I couldn't handle Luke cheating on Kath to begin with so I guess I'd never see this scene on my routes...

As for all the comments about the lack of kissing between Kath and Pat; laugh at me if you must but kissing makes the whole thing a lot more intimate. Sex without kissing is just meaningless sex. No emotional commitment so no loose ends later. It's why some sex workers will do practically anything with you but won't kiss you. So I've heard. Research, you understand.

No kissing offers the writer more options later; the motel could just be a one-off or could develop into something more substantial.
 

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For me, if it's pretty obvious that Luke killed Pat but not conclusively proven, that would be a good outcome. Everyone would understand Luke's position on cheating and would think twice before betraying him again. Of course, I couldn't handle Luke cheating on Kath to begin with so I guess I'd never see this scene on my routes...

As for all the comments about the lack of kissing between Kath and Pat; laugh at me if you must but kissing makes the whole thing a lot more intimate. Sex without kissing is just meaningless sex. No emotional commitment so no loose ends later. It's why some sex workers will do practically anything with you but won't kiss you. So I've heard. Research, you understand.

No kissing offers the writer more options later; the motel could just be a one-off or could develop into something more substantial.
could not agree about the kissing while I think it does make sense for NTR when she is actually stolen away and become Pat's or someone else. But in the context of the Pat scene feels like a heat of the moment thing where I feel kissing would be too far for that scene personally since it's not like Kat wants to be Pat's permanently , just yet since she still cares for Luke. Now if she was just cheating with anyone and everyone and didn't care about Luke still then I think kissing wouldn't be a big deal. But that is just my opinion
 

NewGuy2022

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could not agree about the kissing while I think it does make sense for NTR when she is actually stolen away and become Pat's or someone else. But in the context of the Pat scene feels like a heat of the moment thing where I feel kissing would be too far for that scene personally since it's not like Kat wants to be Pat's permanently , just yet since she still cares for Luke. Now if she was just cheating with anyone and everyone and didn't care about Luke still then I think kissing wouldn't be a big deal. But that is just my opinion
I think we both said the same thing when we said that in this instance Kath-Pat was cheap throwaway sex and nothing more (for Kath, at least). If the developer or player wants to make something more of this then they will need to do something else in the next update.
 

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You mean the majority of the supporters that are making the game possible? The stupidity of statements like this always amaze me.
Once again you show that you know nothing at all, just blabbing about and insulting others! The majority of supporters are not all(!) and not giving a damn about those others making the game possible is arrogance.
I could name a couple games where the majority of supporters are NTR fans, but the developers keep full NON-NTR paths for those fans who dislike NTR.
Bobby with the new update brownnosed the NTR fans, while giving the middlefinger to all fans who dislike the genre and like TBE for other things.
 

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Once again you show that you know nothing at all, just blabbing about and insulting others! The majority of supporters are not all(!) and not giving a damn about those others making the game possible is arrogance.
I could name a couple games where the majority of supporters are NTR fans, but the developers keep full NON-NTR paths for those fans who dislike NTR.
Bobby with the new update brownnosed the NTR fans, while giving the middlefinger to all fans who dislike the genre and like TBE for other things.
Do you have me confused with someone else, ya lunatic? I don't think I've ever spoken to you before. I can see by the way you type you are a child or have a very childlike mindset. Also, there still is and always has been a non-ntr path in this game, wtf are you talking about.
 

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Also, there still is and always has been a non-ntr path in this game, wtf are you talking about.
pretty sure he means how the last update was nothing but NTR content or nothing at all. Like he went out his way to not include any loyal or NTS path content on purpose , when he had some setup to include them. At least that's how I feel about it.
 
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whoabacha

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pretty sure he means how the last update was nothing but NTR content or nothing at all. Like he went out his way to not include any loyal or NTS path content on purpose , when he had some setup to include them. At least that's how I feel about it.
Right, so 1 episode had mainly NTR out of what 7 before? Not exactly something to get so upset about. I agree the options weren't great for everyone last release, but it's not the end of the world and certainly not bad enough to start accusing/insulting the dev of the game.
 
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pretty sure he means how the last update was nothing but NTR content or nothing at all. Like he went out his way to not include any loyal or NTS path content on purpose , when he had some setup to include them. At least that's how I feel about it.
You're correct. What's more, the dev posted that he did this intentionally; it was no accident. He wanted to introduce drama to upset things. He got his wish.

The developer deliberately invalidated earlier player decision trends for the sake of drama. That's what doesn't sit right with me. Many commenters ignore this and simply want to debate the merit or lack of merit of the NTR fetish. That is merely a feint.

Others, I'm sure, will see things differently.
 

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You're correct. What's more, the dev posted that he did this intentionally; it was no accident. He wanted to introduce drama to upset things. He got his wish.

The developer deliberately invalidated earlier player decision trends for the sake of drama. That's what doesn't sit right with me. Many commenters ignore this and simply want to debate the merit or lack of merit of the NTR fetish. That is merely a feint.

Others, I'm sure, will see things differently.
yeah ive seen comments act like the people upset is because of NTR while I can't speak for everyone for me and from things I read I always felt like the NTR was never the issue just the execution of everything else or lack of certain type of content in the update.
 

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You're correct. What's more, the dev posted that he did this intentionally; it was no accident. He wanted to introduce drama to upset things. He got his wish.

The developer deliberately invalidated earlier player decision trends for the sake of drama. That's what doesn't sit right with me. Many commenters ignore this and simply want to debate the merit or lack of merit of the NTR fetish. That is merely a feint.

Others, I'm sure, will see things differently.
Don't you think you are taking it a little personally? Yes there are good reasons that players didn't like the last update, but the language you use is so over the top and serves no purpose apart from turning the game thread into a very negative and hostile place trying to rile people up into thinking the dev is some kind of asshole. You do also understand he meant drama in the game, right? The way you have worded it makes it seem like you think he did it to upset players on a certain path, which doesn't make any sense.
 
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Given the vacant smugness of certain NTRaholics, I feel this needs repeated. Bobby at the start regarding Kathryn:



Bobby now: Consent? I'm getting money from the NTR crowd, so fuck consent!

Bobby sold out, and can no longer be trusted to have any clear vision in this game.

That's why people are pissed.
Well this is gonna piss you off too but its actually the NTR crowd that brings in the money to these kind of games.
the faithful vanilla family values crowd are usually the free loaders
 
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whoabacha

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Bobby promised Kathryn wouldn't cheat because it wasn't in her character. So I supported for over a year thinking she wouldn't.
But she still doesn't cheat if you make the right choices, no? Do you get a choice with Franklyn? I honestly don't remember. But you definitely get a choice with Pat.
People who kept demanding she cheats had no concept of the early game and quite frankly they have a deep seated hatred for women so they needed to see Kath suffer.
Were people demanding that? I don't pay that much attention to it tbh. To me, it seemed logical with the way the story was developing that it would certainly be a choice to have her cheat. I won't address the second part because I think you know that's a ridiculous thing to say.
Also they have no clue what nts is and don't care about anything but cheating even if it was originally not what was going to happen.
I can only speak for myself, but I like both NTR and NTS and will happily play either if they are done well.
 
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whoabacha

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Bobby promised she would never cheat because it wasn't in her character but ntr fans don't give a shot about established characters they just want cheating.

And once again nts fans weren't upset that she can cheat. It's the fact she literally takes Pat's side even though he says all that degrading shit about Luke in front of her.
The general impression I got was that most people did find that weird and forced and that was one of the major complaints (along with the introduction of crappy AI). For me, it wasn't anything to do with NTS/NTR, just the whole situation just felt very contrived and rushed no matter the outcome. The whole scene should have been cut if you chose not to go dancing with Pat imo in the previous episode or at least let her go home with Luke. That would have made more sense.
 

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The general impression I got was that most people did find that weird and forced and that was one of the major complaints (along with the introduction of crappy AI). For me, it wasn't anything to do with NTS/NTR, just the whole situation just felt very contrived and rushed no matter the outcome. The whole scene should have been cut if you chose not to go dancing with Pat imo in the previous episode or at least let her go home with Luke. That would have made more sense.
But then people would bitch about update times if it took a little longer. I'd rather one huge update a year compared to three smaller ones, honestly.

Look, I'm just salty because this is now two updates in a row I've hated, and I've been paying for it for over a year now. Bobby said I'd like chapter nine, though.
 

whoabacha

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But then people would bitch about update times if it took a little longer. I'd rather one huge update a year compared to three smaller ones, honestly.

Look, I'm just salty because this is now two updates in a row I've hated, and I've been paying for it for over a year now. Bobby said I'd like chapter nine, though.
People would bitch about updates if they got a full game every week, certain folks will always find something to complain about. I just hope for chapter 9 we get the option to disable AI and the writing is a better. Fingers crossed.
 

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One thing I hope is that sharing fans didn't send him nasty messages after the update. He got enough of those when the game was first released here.

The thought of anyone sending him shit like that makes me so angry. I can guarantee no one was as upset as I was with the update but that doesn't mean you can be nasty to a dev.
 

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Game/Developer: The East Block/Bobbyboy Productions

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I quickly created a walkthrough mod & Scene-Gallery-Mod for the game.
I'm happy with this and decided to share it.

Let me know if you encounter any problems.
Scene galeria has been completely redesigned and there is also a scene that has been completely reworked. In front of it it says new without a version number
2 scenes were added, in front of it there is a new one without a version number
1 scene was added, in front of it there is a new version number
NTR scenes are now in Other_NTR where you can click on them
I hope you like the scene galeria, if not I can always reset it completely. I hope you have fun with it, kind regards, Chrisnrw
 
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