VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.8.3] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[Joshy92]

More divergent paths is always good. It makes decisions feel more real.

 

[HikBenAkk]

I have not yet given my opinion about last update. I read many posts here. ^^

I do not understand all the hate about AI in this game... The content basis, AI uses, is Kathryn's model, not lazy AI slopes. It is indeed far from perfection and some in the last updates are not good at all (ugly). That said, who can dare to say that Kathryn masturbation in Motel, for example, is bad animation result despite being made by AI ?
If AI helps the dev to get such results (the good ones) in less time, I can only say to him, go for it (as a subscriber for a long time now, I said it to him)... Even though, I repeat, the dev STILL HAS to improve about AI (and project management ^^).
I am a software dev myself for more than 10 years and I do NOT use AI myself in my job (I may rather say not yet ? Who knows?) because I don't yet see it as indispensable for my own dev tasks and I forbid juniors in my team to use AI to perform for them tasks they are yet not proficient to perform by themselves.

About the drama : NTR/cheating VS NTS/sharing content for Kathryn...
WHY ?? I actually cannot understand, I like female corruption (I love both NTR AND NTS content)
I have waited for a long time Kathryn to have cheating content in the main timeline (the present) and I do not see why building cheating content for her can only means the end of the sharing content. Both can be made and still make sense together story wise : Luke already has cheating opportunities and Karthryn can also grow cheating temptations while still having fun by being shared by Luke...
As always, make such content optional is mandatory for players that do not like it.

To explain what I mean with "main timeline" above : Kathryn already had cheating content (the flashback in the trailer when she was on her first date with Luke). Tbh, I did not like it when it was released because it was in the past and not building her corruption in the present, not because it was cheating...
Now I like this scene a lot, because it can be a good start to "explain" and build up her cheating kink and scenes to come.

My fav scene in this last update was Rebecca's with Santini (I like her to be involved and starting to grow her own depravity with this despicable businessman and his friends/minions ^^). I prefer this scene over Kathryn's in motel because it was Pat there ;-P ^^
If it were some random guy, I would have love it... ^^

 

[TonyMurray]

I have not yet given my opinion about last update. I read many posts here. ^^

I do not understand all the hate about AI in this game... The content basis, AI uses, is Kathryn's model, not lazy AI slopes. It is indeed far from perfection and some in the last updates are not good at all (ugly). That said, who can dare to say that Kathryn masturbation in Motel, for example, is bad animation result despite being made by AI ?
If AI helps the dev to get such results (the good ones) in less time, I can only say to him, go for it (as a subscriber for a long time now, I said it to him)... Even though, I repeat, the dev STILL HAS to improve about AI (and project management ^^).
I am a software dev myself for more than 10 years and I do NOT use AI myself in my job (I may rather say not yet ? Who knows?) because I don't yet see it as indispensable for my own dev tasks and I forbid juniors in my team to use AI to perform for them tasks they are yet not proficient to perform by themselves.

About the drama : NTR/cheating VS NTS/sharing content for Kathryn...
WHY ?? I actually cannot understand, I like female corruption (I love both NTR AND NTS content)
I have waited for a long time Kathryn to have cheating content in the main timeline (the present) and I do not see why building cheating content for her can only means the end of the sharing content. Both can be made and still make sense together story wise : Luke already has cheating opportunities and Karthryn can also grow cheating temptations while still having fun by being shared by Luke...
As always, make such content optional is mandatory for players that do not like it.

To explain what I mean with "main timeline" above : Kathryn already had cheating content (the flashback in the trailer when she was on her first date with Luke). Tbh, I did not like it when it was released because it was in the past and not building her corruption in the present, not because it was cheating...
Now I like this scene a lot, because it can be a good start to "explain" and build up her cheating kink and scenes to come.

My fav scene in this last update was Rebecca's with Santini (I like her to be involved and starting to grow her own depravity with this despicable businessman and his friends/minions ^^). I prefer this scene over Kathryn's in motel because it was Pat there ;-P ^^
If it were some random guy, I would have love it... ^^

It's kind of funny, but every time there's a post like this saying that someone doesn't understand why there are complaints, it's abundantly clear that they're really saying they don't understand what the actual complaints are. Taking the time to read the complaints would give that understanding, but it looks like that always gets skipped over in favour of going in defence mode (or attack mode, in some instances).

For instance, the AI argument where you ask how can anyone complain about a specific animation that I'm pretty sure no one has complained about. The complaints are about the AI animations that look awful, which are often accompanied with specific examples that detail why they look awful, and about there being far too many of them in the first place.

For the NTR, like most others starting out with this "not understanding the complaints" stance, you focus on NTR being optional, or on Luke already cheating, or on Kathryn having done stuff before. When people actually complain about the Pat NTR scene, it's not about the cheating itself (except for Joshy's valid complaint regarding dev promises), but about the convoluted and forced build-up (with the argument and staying with Pat) being out of character both for Kathryn and for the Kathryn-Luke relationship up to that point.

For the NTS versus NTR content part, it's about this being an NTS game (and only now moving into NTR with this last update) but having no NTS in this update, despite plenty of opportunity being there. I'm fine with that because I'll play the game both ways, but for some people, who only like NTS and not NTR, it represents a lack of content on their paths, and potentially suggests a shift in the direction the game is going. We don't yet know how much of a shift it will be, but I can definitely understand the concern from those players.

 

[Joshy92]

It's kind of funny, but every time there's a post like this saying that someone doesn't understand why there are complaints, it's abundantly clear that they're really saying they don't understand what the actual complaints are. Taking the time to read the complaints would give that understanding, but it looks like that always gets skipped over in favour of going in defence mode (or attack mode, in some instances).

For instance, the AI argument where you ask how can anyone complain about a specific animation that I'm pretty sure no one has complained about. The complaints are about the AI animations that look awful, which are often accompanied with specific examples that detail why they look awful, and about there being far too many of them in the first place.

For the NTR, like most others starting out with this "not understanding the complaints" stance, you focus on NTR being optional, or on Luke already cheating, or on Kathryn having done stuff before. When people actually complain about the Pat NTR scene, it's not about the cheating itself (except for Joshy's valid complaint regarding dev promises), but about the convoluted and forced build-up (with the argument and staying with Pat) being out of character both for Kathryn and for the Kathryn-Luke relationship up to that point.

For the NTS versus NTR content part, it's about this being an NTS game (and only now moving into NTR with this last update) but having no NTS in this update, despite plenty of opportunity being there. I'm fine with that because I'll play the game both ways, but for some people, who only like NTS and not NTR, it represents a lack of content on their paths, and potentially suggests a shift in the direction the game is going. We don't yet know how much of a shift it will be, but I can definitely understand the concern from those players.

I played this update in like ten minutes with all the sex I skipped