Joshy92

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Once again Joshy, the option was in the previous update, not the last one. The decision comes when Pat calls Luke to set up the evening. What you played was just one route, which I never played when I was following my actual routes, because I had Luke decide not to go, and therefore no drama because he wasn't there. Luke said at the time he didn't want to go, because he hates dancing and views it as a waste of his time. When I saw that I immediately thought, this is going to lead to a row, because the Dev is making a big song and dance about it, and that was a red flag to me, that something I didn't want was going to happen if I played that content, so I played the other, even though that likely meant no sex content on my no cheating netorase route. And my intuition was spot on, because you got the NTR and I didn't. On the netorase route, there's no unpleasant drama, and Katherine chooses to fall asleep after masturbating and fleetingly considering the possibility of doing something naughty with Pat, who is sleeping on the floor. Obviously, if you want her to, you can choose for her to have sex with Pat at this point. But on my no cheating route, I didn't make that choice, because unlike on the other route that you played, there is a choice.

Personally, I don't care that there's no option for her to go home with Luke during that scene, because I'm not interested in NTR in this game. But the question you should be asking, is why she would, when she clearly wants to spend the evening dancing? It's makes no sense for her to go home, just because Luke is throwing a hissy fit. Apart from playing that content to see what all the fuss was about, I had zero interest in playing it, because it doesn't lead to Kathryn's cheating content, as you rightly suggest I'm interested in, but to the netorare which I'm not. And if you'd bothered to listen to what I told you yesterday, you'd know that by now. The best route for you, even though Luke isn't there, is to go back and make the other choice. Because none of the drama happens and nobody cheats if you don't want it to happen. I've said this over and over again, and it's like you're just totally blind to it, because you don't get exactly what you want. It doesn't matter what could have happened, because it never did and it likely never will, and all you can do is follow the least worst route for you. Which is what I've done through most of this game, and I've still managed to enjoy it.
We need to stop because you can't understand how I feel. I don't want to interact at all with Pat.

When I play these games I self insert as the MC so to have Luke be rude to Kathryn hurt me because I wouldn't do that.

We really need to stop this because we are going around in circles right now and it's pointless.
 
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Zara Scarlet

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We need to stop because you can't understand how I feel. I don't want to interact at all with Pat.

When I play these games I self insert as the MC so to have Luke be rude to Kathryn hurt me because I wouldn't do that.

We really need to stop this because we are going around in circles right now and it's pointless.
I understand that, but you don't have any option, and since Luke isn't present on the other route you cant be him, and you're just a casual observer. So just disassociate yourself from Luke during that content, because he never gets to see it. Anymore than he gets to see any of the other scenes with Kathryn, when he's not around.

Surely you realise it's impossible to play someone who's never there.
 
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Joshy92

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I understand that, but you don't have any option, and since Luke isn't present on the other route you cant be him, and you're just a casual observer. So just disassociate yourself from Luke during that content, because he never gets to see it. Anymore than he gets to see any of the other scenes with Kathryn, when he's not around.
I can't do that just like I can't touch those disgusting women in the game. Only Kathryn matters to me and I want romantic cuckolding scenes where they are together. Absolutely not apart because I need to be there.

Most avns suck so I have to focus on the few I actually like like TEB.
 
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I can't do that just like I can't touch those disgusting women in the game. Only Kathryn matters to me and I want romantic cuckolding scenes where they are together. Absolutely not apart because I need to be there.

Most avns suck so I have to focus on the few I actually like like TEB.
Well if you dont, you wont get anymore of those scenes Joshy, because Luke will likely become paranoid of everything Kathryn does, because currently you're on the NTR route. If you dont want that, you literally have no choice but to go back, and get on a route where none of that unpleasantness happened.

I know I like content that you dont, but when I choose to play a no cheating route I play it, and currently I'm on it, but you're not. And if you stay where you are, you never will be again. Cant say it any clearer than that. For better or worse, you have to choose the route, where Luke doesn't go dancing. So do it or give up on this game.
 
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Well just because a lot of people get it wrong doesn't make it so. And I can assure you, the site views NTR the same way I do. I know perfectly well what a lot of people think, but they're still wrong and so are you. And that's not nit picking at all. A lot of people choose to believe that climate change is a hoax, despite overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary. It doesn't matter what they believe, it's still wrong.

All you said is that dancing with Pat was horrible. You never qualified it at all. Now maybe you have in an earlier comment on this thread, but since I never saw it and I've no idea what page it's on, it doesn't do me a lot of good when comes to understanding your point. You seem terribly disinclined to tell me, even though I've made it very clear, that I've absolutely no idea what you're going on about, because you never specifically said so to me. I cant answer a question, when I don't really know what that question is. All I get, is you wont understand it. And you're right I dont, because that's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I still consider it nit picking because you knew what I meant I guess I know now around you I got to make sure not to be lazy and say NTR / cheating like I usually do when im not lazy. Just so you don't nit pick in the future and derail a convo about NTR , when it's easier to accept what im talking about when you know what I mean.

i'll explain why I dislike the dance but sorry for not wanting to do so earlier but I find your post rather exhausting so I was being lazy about it.

First issue with the dance for me. In Chapter 7 you make a Decision to go with Pat or not. It would seem that the going with Path would lead to NTR / cheating. While the other would either be NTS or just avoid that. No matter what path you make it doesn't matter because your are forced into a situation that can lead to NTR / cheating. In fact id even argue going with Pat is a better setup for NTR / cheating than not. Because of how Luke gets into an argument and Kat stays behind and not leave with Luke.

Which leads me to another issue why aren't we given a choice to at least go with Luke or not as Kath. As it feels very unlike Kat to stay behind does not feel like something she would do. Now you may think it's the drugs , I don't I think so and if so that's just an excuse for bad writing.

Sure you can say Bobby wanted us to always go with Path for Story or Drama reasons that's fine with me I may not like it but I can accept that. However not in the way it happened. At least make Kath act in a way that makes sense for her character , make Kathryn get mad at Luke or something. Another user came up with a way they would of fixed it and it was perfect.

Which also leads me to another issue. It's actually feels better for a NTS playthrough to not go with Path cause that way Kath doesn't feel out of character and Luke isn't mean to her and starts a fight and all of that . Things make more sense play out better for Kat's character if you go alone . which is crazy to me especially cause one would think it be the opposite.

So for me all of this makes the dance stuff horrible for a NTS player that only views NTR / cheating scenes to see more Kathryn. Only thing I will give Bobby credit for at least he gives a chance to not sleep with pat.
 

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Well just because a lot of people get it wrong doesn't make it so. And I can assure you, the site views NTR the same way I do.
Current forum definition:
  • Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
Makes no mention of the MC having to be present. Cheating is when the MC gets involved with someone other than their partner (the tag list specifies it as "significant other", not actually identifying the MC in the definition). NTR is when the MC's partner gets involved with someone other than them, it doesn't matter if the MC is there and able to see it happen in the immediate instance it happens. However, none of that is really relevant here, because the definition of NTR is not the thing people are arguing, it's only the argument you're trying to have.

Most people are trying to discuss what actually happened in the game, and how it made them feel, not technical definitions that may be "right" or "wrong".
I understand that, but you don't have any option, and since Luke isn't present on the other route you cant be him, and you're just a casual observer. So just disassociate yourself from Luke during that content, because he never gets to see it. Anymore than he gets to see any of the other scenes with Kathryn, when he's not around.

Surely you realise it's impossible to play someone who's never there.
You've mentioned a couple of times that you haven't played certain routes, but you're still telling people who did play those routes what they did wrong or what they need to do. Stop telling people how to play and how to (hopefully) enjoy the game. They, as you rightly point out, are looking for different things from the game to what you're looking for, and they're going to play it in a different way. Just leave them alone to do so.

And circling back to the choice to go with Kathryn when she goes dancing or not to go, going with her was absolutely the "safe" choice if you want to avoid the possibility of something happening with Pat. In the context of the game, not going was practically an invitation to have something happen. People can only say that not going was the "safe" choice because they have hindsight after playing the event, and they know that by not going, the argument doesn't happen.
 

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.. Sorry but i am new,when will there be an update ? .. :unsure::Kappa:
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You will have a lot of Tease Scenes with "convenient" interruptions like in every Chapter
There will be a NTR Scene and suddenly it will be forced in to a NTS Scene. The Plot Drama demands this Scene
This will lead to many discussions in the forum ;):ROFLMAO:


There will be Rain and Kathryn will be forced to sleep in the Tent with Charles :ROFLMAO:

Charles can’t creampie Kathryn, because of the „convenient“ interruption by Pat
Pat can’t creampie Kathryn, because of the „convenient“ interruption by Luke
Luke can’t creampie Kathryn, because of the „convenient“ interruption by Rebecca

All men are thrown out of the Tent, because Plot ... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

TonyMurray

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Around Juli 2026


You will have a lot of Tease Scenes with "convenient" interruptions like in every Chapter
There will be a NTR Scene and suddenly it will be forced in to a NTS Scene. The Plot Drama demands this Scene
This will lead to many discussions in the forum ;):ROFLMAO:


There will be Rain and Kathryn will be forced to sleep in the Tent with Charles :ROFLMAO:

Charles can’t creampie Kathryn, because of the „convenient“ interruption by Pat
Pat can’t creampie Kathryn, because of the „convenient“ interruption by Luke
Luke can’t creampie Kathryn, because of the „convenient“ interruption by Rebecca

All men are thrown out of the Tent, because Plot ... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
You mean Charles can't creampie Kathryn because the rain is blocking phone signal and Kathryn can't contact Luke to get his permission?
 

Joshy92

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Guys, I know it was disappointing for some sharing fans like me, but I have absolute faith that we will get some hot as hell sharing scenes in the future.

Please give it another update because Bobby pours his heart into making this game the best it can be, and he spends hundreds of hours working on each update to bring us this gem. And then there is his next game which he will make after this and that will be just as good or even better because he will have had the experience of working on TEB.

Yes, there will be cheating scenes, but there will also be sharing, so let's give him our moral support and cheer him on.
 

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Hey guys, it’s time for this week’s dev log!
Man, it’s been brutally cold and snowy over the past week or so, and I’m very thankful I get to work from home, both at my day job and while working on the game. As a Canadian I usually enjoy winter, but lately I’ve really been pining for spring. Maybe that’s just old age creeping up on me.
Progress on the game has been smooth and steady. As usual, I’ve been pivoting back and forth on a few aspects of this update, but I’m starting to get a clearer sense of how everything should come together. These chapters are always tricky to make. As much as I try to focus purely on what inspires me creatively, I also have to consider what most players are looking for. Thankfully, most of you are pretty like-minded and enjoy similar aspects of the story, so striking that balance hasn’t been too difficult.
One thing I want to be very clear about going forward is how content paths are handled. Any hard NTR content will remain hidden from players who don’t want it. This is primarily determined by the major choice in Chapter 8. If you went through with that decision, you’ll unlock options and scenes exclusive to that path. If not, you’ll stay on a pure or NTS route depending on your choices.
That said, choosing the “good” path doesn’t mean everything suddenly becomes sunshine and roses for Luke and Kathryn. I want the story to stay interesting, with unexpected twists and turns along the way. Total predictability is boring, and I’d rather keep you guessing. Hopefully you’ll enjoy what’s still to come for our favorite couple.
So with that, here’s where things currently stand:
Current Progress
Images:
290 / ?
Animations: 25 / ?
Coding: 1 / 5 scenes + bonus scene
Extras: Ongoing work on menu and GUI enhancements, the character profile screen, and the scene replay system. Scene replay is now complete and appears to be working as expected. The character profile screen is still in progress, I want it to be fun and interactive, so it’s taking a bit of extra time.
I’ll continue posting teasers as we move forward. I can’t share too many without spoiling the chapter before release, but you should still see at least one per week. I’m just being a bit more careful with spoilers.
Thanks again for all the support, and for all the DMs, suggestions, and chats here. I genuinely love interacting with you guys, so feel free to message me anytime, I respond to everyone.
See you in the next one,

Bobby

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Any hard NTR content will remain hidden from players who don’t want it.
What does that mean exactly though? The NTR is already technically "hidden" if you don't choose it. Does this mean that you won't even have the option to choose NTR after this point? Or is it like a "remove NTR" option in the settings?

Or does it mean nothing, and you'll still get to not choose NTR but still have the situations show up.
 

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What does that mean exactly though? The NTR is already technically "hidden" if you don't choose it. Does this mean that you won't even have the option to choose NTR after this point? Or is it like a "remove NTR" option in the settings?

Or does it mean nothing, and you'll still get to not choose NTR but still have the situations show up.
not sure but it sounds like going with the NTR option unlocks choices to do more NTR or not while not doing it those choices won't ever show up?
 
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