VN - Ren'Py - The Falling Reloaded [Ch. 6] [WhiteBear]

The Falling Reloaded [Ch.5]
The story is not bad, i liked the female characters even with Emma (blonde) resembling too much Jill from a other well known game...but in the end shes attractive.
The worst thing in this game is Ghost possessing MC's body everytime...MC goes to sleep and this guy takes over MC's body to do his own thing, even speaking to a L.I while shes naked... this Ghost dude is taking over his body and doing his own mission, hes capable of doing more than MC even with MC having control of the body for most of the time...just by this we can see MC is doing fucking nothing...hes too passive, dude is always crying and babling about his traumas like a fucking emo boy. Worst thing, player can do NOTHING to prevent Ghost from taking over...This guy should have his own phisical body, i dont know why developer thought would be a good idea to make him take over Mcs body tbh.
In the end this is (or was) a game with real potential ruined by bad decisions...Blame Ghost (mostly) for it.

Really 4.5 stars, only due to not enough content released yet. Game is unique in the story and has many avenues that it could follow. Game play is fairly straight forward, not a lot of sandbox material and choices are heavy in the start but seem to get non meaningful the later chapters (at least this far). With all that said, really great story with some unexpected twist. Delves deeper than most games would, and the developer appears to have done their homework on information related to gameplay. Like to see this fully blossom.

story is good graphics could be better
more animation would be good
more hot scene neded
updates takes too long
story is good graphics could be better
more animation would be good
more hot scene neded
updates takes too long

version 4.0

These are some of my thoughts on the game after I've played it so far:
1. So far the story is quite interesting and I like it.
2. It's a bit annoying when the main character doesn't immediately kill Zak and let him go which causes Inessa to end up being killed. If the goal is for Inessa to be killed, maybe it can be done in another way.
3. When the main character goes to take a shower which is escorted by Inessa, the bathroom looks as luxurious as a bathroom in an expensive hotel. Aren't they in hell?
4. When Nyks contacted Unity and Seer using an object like a magic item, why didn't Nyks lock her bedroom door, or look for a hidden place? Isn't Nyks worried that someone else or a demon, or even the main player can hear their conversation and know their secret? And in my opinion this is a fatal mistake for a spy or someone who has a secret mission.
5. It's a little weird when Layla (Queen) receives a fake letter from the main player, just for a way for the main player to copy Layla's powers. Why didn't Layla receive it from the side when the main player gave a fake letter by holding it from above?
7. Actually I wish the story when the main character in hell was a little longer and made interesting.
8. When the main player went to the campus for the first time, after entering the campus, the main player and Azel chatted while walking. Even though they had talked at length but they were only a few meters from the entrance. Are they running very slowly? I think this is quite funny.
9. Besides that, I like the rendering, although I wish the rendering was made more gruesome and terrifying so that the hellish impression would be more pronounced.

Sorry for my bad english. And thanks for the game.

First of all, it's a good game. I liked it. But improvement is needed in many areas.

The story is great. But storytelling is not. A monologue would do the trick at the beginning.
But there isn't one. Or not good enough

The story moves very quickly and is not difficult to follow. But it would be nice to slow down a bit.

Lots of things happens at once and its kinda disturbing.

Renders are good. Through updates we can see the improvement .
Adding some animations would be great. As in the beginning and in important scenes (Inessa's death, battles, introduction of new characters).

And the music-
It has some music, which is good. But something doesn't fit the mood of the scene.

Story is kinda okay, demons and angels, etc.
You understand nothing at all, but i guess thats fine , stories can be told in a different ways, maybe that's one of that stories, that you need to observe and feel
But ! no sex scenes at all, just deafult nudes.

A wasted potential

The AVN has 4 chapters and it's just teasing, not a single sex scene.
The supposed "LIs" have great renders, designs, outfits and they are a wasted potential, and they are just for TEASING. Their attitudes are horrible and annoying, also the protagonist is lame and boring.

A lot of the interactions feel dragged out just for the sake of doing it and to not have a single intimate scene and the game is from 2021!

The writting of the prologue was very good but after that 4 chapters and its all over the place.

This is the type of AVN that you need to come back years later to see if it has anything good to offer after the first time you played it.

Game have potential but story needs much more work. Renders are great, pitty that it has no spicy content. Main hero is boring in the way that he doesn't act in a way you would expect him to. It breaks immersion

I have an unhealthy addiction for devil/angle and futuristic stories and OP MCs,the story copies a lot from other great works and I'm totally up for it. it's having its ups and down in regards of story but overall I like it and I hope it gets as good as I'd have imagine it to be.

although currently there is little to no sex at all {ch 4)
the main selling point of this game is the story
i really enjoyed the story and the characters
if you are looking for a game to jack off
this is not for you
but if you are looking for a good story with some twist
go for it

The game revolves around the story of an angel who finds themselves abandoned by their father, a powerful deity. The angel, left alone and seeking answers, embarks on a quest to uncover the truth behind their abandonment. Throughout their journey, they encounter various celestial beings, navigate ethereal realms, and unravel secrets from their past. Along the way, the angel must confront formidable challenges, engage in thought-provoking puzzles, and forge alliances with both benevolent and malevolent entities. As the angel unravels the mysteries of their origin and confronts their own inner conflicts, they ultimately strive to find redemption, discover their true purpose, and reconcile with their estranged father."

This update was a breath of fresh air. Everyone loves to whine about Emma but I liked how we finally got to see her genuine reaction to what we went through, and that she was lied to (clearly part of her previous mental trauma).



This update shed some light on some of our greater questions:

Q1. Why the family wasn't so adamant on trying to break us out of Hell?

A1. They didn't know or at least believe we were being tortured. Whether it be a naive way of thinking or not; we have to understand these Angels have been quite literally created to worship and obey God and Goddess their ENTIRE existence. As far as they know God is honest and his worst is LITERALLY divine mandate, if he has a track record of NEVER lying, this could be the reason they took his word at face value. To them, we were rebelling against everything they have come to know, ever.



Q2. Why the family didn't react to our torture remarks?

A2. They might have thought we were sarcastic. Seeing it more as us just being discontent with being in Hell, rather than ACTUALLY being physically tortured.



Q3. Why the family didn't react to the scars?

A3. They thought we had gotten them from the War in Hell. They didn't know we even had powers, let alone the brute strength to annihilate the upper echelon of Demon kind by ourselves. A few scars WOULD make sense, and yes, they made comments on the suicidal ones.



Q4. Why was the family handling us in such a way as shopping trips, sending us to school, etc?

A4. Again, like I fucking said initially, this was a family that while not perfect and completely out of the realm of ever doing so in the first place; was trying to mend a broken soul the best way they thought they could; which was reintegrating them back into a semblance of normalcy that THEY had come to know and love. Obviously different strokes for different folks, but these are entitled Angels we're talking about. Like a rich parent buying their sad kid expensive things as a form of make up, it's not what they actually need but what the PARENT or in this case; the family thought they needed. This was a first for them.



Q5. Why was Emma so sexually invested/suggestive to us?

A5. Again, I always said it, this was not one of the main issues, as it was OBVIOUS that it was the influence of our powers. But everyone was so mad that she was trying to ride us, man just use your heads. Shit emin this update she even tries to reject the idea of coming on to us, stop complaining.



Q6. Azel

A6. She didn't know, she knew she was placing us in a downgrade to Heaven sure, but not that we were going to be tortured; as God had promised them all that not only was it going to be temporary, but that we were fine. Again no lie history, which explains why she and everyone else was so confused about our outburst.







Now with all of that out of the way there are still some obvious plot holes that are probably just there due to the writing itself, but overall if I dumb myself down enough and don't over analyze, this game has potential even more so than it did before. You can still play the "Evil" path and justifiably be mad at the family if you want to hold a grudge on how naive they were, but you could also knowing go the "Good" path with a good conscience.





The plot holes to note though White_Bear are:



Q1. Why couldn't the Angels get to Hell but the Demons and MC could so easily to AND back?



Potential Answer: When God closed the "Gateways"; he SPECIFICALLY did so for the Angels. As we had our wings removed and Demons aren't Angels; that would answer our question easily if stated somewhere in future (or past) dialogue clean up.



Q2. MC's Questionable Sexual Nature?



Potential Answer/Explanation: The MC so far has shown more so curiosity to sexual subjects rather than brain dead monkey addiction, which I like. But in the recent (Chp 4) update we see an Inessa dream sequence where he's downright about to FUCK her. For a guy who told Nyks he knows next to NOTHING about sex, and doesn't really care about any of that stuff other than curiosity; he sure did have a very vivid dream about knowing what he was doing. Maybe this was just his instinctual hormones acting up and I'm overthinking it.



Q3. How come the Angels couldn't learn Dark Magic to get to Hell, or used a Demon to open a portal using it like their powerful friend?



Potential Answer: The Demon the MC tried to force to open a portal wasn't powerful enough, he was one of the Demon LEADERS on Earth. If he wasn't strong enough I'd assume most others also aren't so THAT would make sense, but then the MC learns to do it himself anyways and opens the portal no problem. Now this could go two ways:

-Like previously mentioned; the Angels are potentially EXCLUSIVELY cut off from the Gateways

-The Dark Magic counts as a "power" and the Angels are given one (or ones) at birth only, they cannot learn more; which is what makes the MC so unique and explains why HE was able to do it while his family couldn't.







That's all I have to say off the top of my head. Grand update, keep it up. The writing overall COULD be better but it's certainly not the WORST I've seen in this genre (Adult), so I look forward to more,, especially some Raphael action PLEASE. If I had to rate this, I'd go from 3 Stars to High 3 1/2 OR Low 4.

If you're not into supernatural/fantasy kind of stories you're obviously not going to enjoy it but I personally think it's a great novel. The developer is obviously a talented writer and it has some really good models and renders. If you're considering playing it but are concerned about the reviews just do yourself a favor and try it for yourself you won't be disappointed.

What a Godly setup to a "Angels vs Demons" fantasy VN. Like really. The prologue hit so hard, I was immediately hooked.

After the prologue though...

I'll first and foremost say, DO NOT let some of the other reviews deter you from playing this. This is a great VN, though with some inconsistencies just like 99% of VN on this site.

What started of so good quickly became too cliché. We went from all this "badassary" to going to college? C'mon man.
I just could not understand why the Dev went that route despite trying to tie it into the story by saying "try to fit in with the humans" or whatever. It's just so oversaturated on this site.
Also, the MC suddenly being content with his family or at least, in the presence of them, doesn't sit right with me. Dude was tortured for like 1000 years and nobody even came looking for him yet they just want him to get over it.

Then it's like, why is the angel of death even going to college?????

Overall narrative has infinite potential, just so many inconsistencies and plot holes WHICH can easily be fixed as well as explained late in the story.

This shit get's 5/5 from me though for that excellent start. Dev knows how to setup a story plus its not a finished product so I can expect more of that later down the line.

I should also probably mention that the renders are clean plus characters are attractive (at least visually).

This is like two games crammed in one. The prologue is a good hook and hinted in an interesting fantasy story full of betrayal and revenge. What came after this, is like your average incest/college harem that you 've seen a billion times.

What is inexplicable about this decision, is that the dev is using the characters that MC has every reason to hate and seek revenge against, as the main interests in the harem part of the game. Who in their right mind would want to be with these bitches? The game tries to whitewash them saying their actions were forced, but the truth is they just bowed to authority because of fear and betrayed MC. And yet the game acts like centuries of torture in hell never happened!

Flimsy attempts to justify the insane behavior of both the family (they act like everything is ok!) and MC (mommy pheromones or whatever), just won't cut it. MC still acts like nothing happened even when he is not affected by mommy scent. And it doesn't matter if family could hear his prayers in imprisonment or not...story makes it clear they knew what was happening to him down there. One of them delivered him there ffs. edit : Later updates claim they didn't know he was being tortured. Because when they asked god about him, he answered all is fine down there. And they were like "Ah OK, if you say so." Even if we take that sorry excuse as the truth, it still changes nothing. If a mother puts her child in the stove, she can't claim innocence because of ignorance. "Oops, I didn't know stoves burn, I just thought it was a cool place to put a child in!" She is still the killer of her child and needs to face the music for that.

The way MC just goes along with everything like a slave is frustrating and completely detaches the player from the player character. I can't begin to count the times he monologues something like "eh I don't care, I will just do what I'm being told like a good boy". He even guilt trips himself, thinking he has been too harsh! To the people who abandoned him into an eternity of torture!!! I've seen families irreparably broken for far more mundane things than eternal condemnation, just sayin....

To me, it's pretty obvious dev decided to switch the genre to something more familiar (like contemporary harem shit), hoping the game would be more popular. But they way it's done, shits all over the story they created before that shift. It's like the game forces the chracters to act in completely irrational ways, so it can eventually have them hooking up to deliver the porn. And it plays like a linear game at this point. Maybe making the standard door opening simulator with mommy + 2sisters would have been more honest instead of this bait and switch.

It gets a second star for the intro and interesting lore. Since it's relatively early, I will revisit it hoping you are allowed to actually influence the way MC interacts with the game world, instead of being a passive non-playing observer.

3 Stars because of the Prologue/Opening and the renders are just that good.

As of v0.3 It lost me. Maybe Spoilers:

Usually in VNs I need a reason to hate characters, but in this I need a reason to like them. It's quite clear that the writer/dev wants the Story to go down the "Happy Family" route, but with that opening, that shit can't be achieved in 1, 2 or 3 chapters, even 4. but it CAN be done. Things are just moving to quickly in that regard. Also, best thing to do is to go into this story while ignoring any previous Angel mythos you know, The VN has it's own lore.

Emma is a huge problem for me as a reader. Her power to make the MC docile is not good. The VN keeps hinting to her "Understanding" the MC but it's not shown. By that I mean, she doesn't really cry or anything and the MC doesn't push her away (probably because of the power, see why I don't like it?). Him thinking to himself "It's not worth arguing" is not good either. She keeps throwing herself at him as well, It's too soon.

Azrael needs a wake up call. All of them do actually. They've been on earth long enough (Yes, including Azrael, who joined them later) to learn empathy and compassion. Watching humans for so long they should know the importance of showing that to someone they care for. but none of them show it. If it's not a big deal to them then they need to say so. There are a lot of other things on my mind about the story, but I'll hold off as it's more in-depth and I want to wait till later chapters.

Feels like there's a beeline to add porn and stuff. I know I'm in the minority on this, but it's cool to have very little if any sex scenes at all. There's kinda a lot of gratuitous nudity in it already.

The dev wouldn't see what other people see, they have more knowledge of the story/events. They have the end point and all we have is what we are given, So I understand it's hard to fully convey things and character motivations without ruining the flow.

Dev if you're reading these, stick to your original vision. It's YOUR story to tell. Goodluck.

I'm gona be honest I usually skip most of the story and only look for the lewds, yet this time I actually read the story and dare i say went the whole story not picking the lewdest options. JUST WOW!!!! REALLY LOVING IT
That said this game has legs for days

What an EPIC start followed by an equally EPIC crash and burn!

I like many was so excited by how this game started, I mean angels and demons involved in epic battles with a tortured MC hellbent on bringing revenge to those poor souls who happen to get in his way on his killing spree to the top. Fantastic right.....?

No unfortunately... we are quickly all done with all that awesome badassery so we can head to college, wait what? Yep, no more of that garbage apparently, let's all settle in to a rediculous slice of life simulator with all the usual suspects. A mother who can't keep her hands off her son along with some other awful family members.

You may think well that's weird that after not seeing their son/brother for like a thousand years they would actually be grateful he was back in their lives, nope they act treat him like a huge burden and how dare he have a few side effects from you know all that torture for A THOUSAND YEARS. truly epic torpedoing of a story.

Well at least the MC still wants his revenge right? Nope, he's perfectly content with now being the bitch boy of the family. All that desire to see his enemies pay just poof gone, it's time to settle into a normal boring ass life of a normal angsty teen drama.

So to any looking to try this out thinking this still sounds appealing, my suggestion would be to play the very first release and then just stop and make up whatever ending sounds epic to you and just assume that's what actually happened because only disappointment is waiting for you otherwise.

Okay this seriously has the legs to be one of the greats...I mean, if they can coral the shit around the angels together. I mean some sex might help as well but I'm down for a slow burn if the writing makes sense. The renders are beautiful, the atmosphere is top notch, and the soundtrack is great. Its screaming EPIC from the roof tops with some glaring problems the devs seem to be addressing.

Good narrative to really bad college being forced on you for no reason that makes little sense for the MC. Also a human psychiatrist? Really? Even she makes light of him being in hell for centuries. The last update has attempted to tidy up some of the massive holes about why he just does what Emma tells him to do, especially with her sitting on Earth playing human for no explained reason yet (as of 0.3) but doesn't really explain why if she s trying to protect him, that its ever a good idea to mix in angels and demons into his daily life. It also skips the whole king of hell powerset really fast and makes him a basic bitch when its needed for plot. Honestly if you're strong enough to kill anything in hell, most of these threats shouldn't be a problem.

Another problem is how damn oblivious the sister angels are to how time worked in here (a day or so being the same as a month in hell) after hundred of years on earth means he was being tortured for over a thousand years easily and they want him to just get over it. They don't notice he talks to himself (his split personalities). They don't notice he's tried killing himself. They just get mad when he doesn't do what they say. Every other demon and angel in the city is scared shitless of the guy. They get mad he's not just bowing his head and doing what they want. I'm sure this will be expanded on but man is it spreading a little thin.

Finally lets get to Emma, the mother. I get it. Shes not supposed to act like a person person, but shes like a 10 and is constantly flirting with her son that she apparently wanted to (or did) fuck when he was a small child. The entire basis around her is she gets what she wants and mind controls everyone. Yet she desperately wants to fuck the MC's brains out, yet wont use the mind control she already uses on him to just do it. This is the only point where the no sex makes little sense. She poses in front of him suggestively, they sleep in the same bed, if you're nice to her there's some making out, and at one point she literally shakes her naked ass in his face. Nothing. Even worse, she can literally tell god to fuck off to his face and suffer no consequences, but was powerless to help you. One of the daughters for being the mature one that's a doctor and takes care of everything is the most naïve and the most overboard with the "well you're not in hell anymore so be my bestie again" energy. The other daughter is the angel of death and boy does that make zero sense in a girl who perpetually just goes to college over and over. Even worse shes the one who dumped you in hell and gives two shits about her part in it. Also she seems wildly irresponsible.

Might seem strange I'm giving this a 4, but the potential is clearly there and this last update has restored my faith that its on the rebound towards greatness if we can get to the meat of these characters and whatever the plot will be. Also this needs to be spiced up a little if we're gonna slog through the plot until it finds its footing. That or the plot needs to carry that weight. Like I said though, massive potential. I hope it gets pulled off.

Another MASTERPIECE in the making

I just home to have all the needed support and can go many many places.
-Models 12/10 Top of the top. Games with this much quality are very rare.
-Story 10/10 Original in any aspect !
-Writing 10/10 Its so obvious that some pros are taking care of bussines...
Even if i dont always pay attention to it , Sound has the desireble effect.

Over all 5 Star game that needs support in exchange of a very quality product.
Well done Devs - I wish you the best