Ren'Py Abandoned The Family Business: Parallel Universe | MiniGame - TechDemo [v1.11 FINAL] [Nemesia Productions]

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Hi folks. Reading your comments about the ''Dongzilla'' incident, we've made some alterations about the MC's third leg. You can find the poll about it What do you think? View attachment 1051511
you clearly removed our MC's 3rd leg. look at him little baby. On a serious note, you did a good job. And it is really nice to see a DEV actually caring about the feedback. I said it before and I will say that again. The way you did demo was amazing, you showed us your skills and the familiarized whole gameplay. Good luck with your game. It will be a great game I believe on you guys.
 
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you clearly removed our MC's 3rd leg. look at him little baby. On a serious note, you did a good job. And it is really nice to see a DEV actually caring about the feedback. I said it before and I will say that again. The way you did demo was amazing, you showed us your skills and the familiarized whole gameplay. Good luck with your game. It will be a great game I believe on you guys.
Thank you so much for believing us mate. We are trying our absolute best to offer you guys a game that you can enjoy in every aspect. <3
 
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I'm watching this page & following you guys on patreon. This tech demo was pretty amazing looking forward for the future;)
Thank you so much for your kind words mate. Keep following us, we will release a OneShot with Nicole and MC soon.
Android version??
Sadly, we are not planning an android version for the demo but we are seriously considering it for the actual game.
 
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Hi folks. Reading your comments about the ''Dongzilla'' incident, we've made some alterations about the MC's third leg. You can find the poll about it What do you think? View attachment 1051511
This is just me being me but I think it is a bit too small now and posting a Patreon exclusive poll on a pirate forum always feels like a slap in the face because your Patreons get notified anyway so why give the link for a poll to players that can't vote anyway.
 

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This is just me being me but I think it is a bit too small now and posting a Patreon exclusive poll on a pirate forum always feels like a slap in the face because your Patreons get notified anyway so why give the link for a poll to players that can't vote anyway.
Well, there is no efficient way of promoting this kind of games anywhere so I'm sorry if posts like these offend you but you can see it as a developers way of trying to fund his efforts on making a game. Currently our financial status is highly volatile due to the pandemic. Even a single person coming to support us by seeing a promotion post like that one is incredibly valuable to us.

Also, our polls will be hold on patreon and we would like our non-patrons to know there is something going on even if they are not following our patreon page. We don't want anyone to think we are a bunch of inactive developers not doing anything after releasing a demo and after a simple cashgrab.

Really sorry again mate. Hope you understand.
 

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Well, there is no efficient way of promoting this kind of games anywhere so I'm sorry if posts like these offend you but you can see it as a developers way of trying to fund his efforts on making a game. Currently our financial status is highly volatile due to the pandemic. Even a single person coming to support us by seeing a promotion post like that one is incredibly valuable to us.

Also, our polls will be hold on patreon and we would like our non-patrons to know there is something going on even if they are not following our patreon page. We don't want anyone to think we are a bunch of inactive developers not doing anything after releasing a demo and after a simple cashgrab.

Really sorry again mate. Hope you understand.
I have to admit I am a bit on edge when it comes to polls because of the shit another dev did a few weeks back.

Looking like an inactive Dev? When I look at this thread I say you don't have to worry about that.
 
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>"I'm self-conscious about my unrealistically plastic pornstar tier bodytype."
No...
This trope doesn't work because you deprived yourself of it.
Every dev on F95Zone has forfeited that trope apart for a very tiny minority that went pretty hard in the opposite direction.
And this is despite it being a quintessential trope.
The mom has the typical hourglass, no midriff, tall milf clown car body type.
It's the most common of the only 3 body types that appear here.
It's not modest, so I'm not immersed, so I'm not into it.
And the trope makes no sense.
I'm also going to bet that if you place her next to her 18 year old daughters, they are about half a foot or more shorter than her.
And I'll probably be right because it's always this way.

The social interactions are often pretty good, though.
Much of the MC's thoughts, dialogue, and actions are the opposite of my own, so it's a bit alienating at times.
The images are also very good.

You added the NTR miasma.
However, you acknowledge it and address it through the MC: which is interesting.
The "NTR scene" isn't NTR.
It's a caricature of NTR with obligatory Jamal's 2 foot bong cock.
MC is having a nightmare about his mom due to the situation (miasma); but it isn't necessarily happening.
The miasma is NTR, but it doesn't seeeeem like you're following through with it.
But you are teasing, which is what the NTR miasma in a proper NTR game functionally does, so it does qualify as NTR.
The NTR miasma is what makes an NTR game with options still incompatible with non-NTR fans (excluding canon).
It causes flame wars here.
But you're not hiding it, which is important.
But you DID make her a former model who is in fashion (both being rare and having sexual connotation) going out in that dress that she made to be like that for... reasons.
And that she used to use her 'womanly charms'.
And was in nude photoshoots.
That's her and her history.
It's the wild past trope: which tends to explain away a mature character's physique or easiness.
You did that.
You didn't have to do that, but you did.
You didn't make her a waitress that works at a diner serving grandpappy Joe his tea: which is a much more common vocation.
She isn't even apparently designing normal clothing.
That's... how you wrote it, having absolute freedom about what to write.
You are NTR teasing.
But you're not hiding it.
But these decisions are a turn off for me, so it doesn't interest me.
Some of her behavior suggests prudence, though, which is a turn on for me.
I easily drop LIs who suggest that kind of trouble: which often translates to dropping the material.
>But you're just being weak, anon.
>Where's your determination?
No; I'm savvy.
Writers write things in certain ways; and psychological abuse is entirely possible.
So keep that in mind when an NTR miasma is present.

I'm not sure what the options are for.
Probably just the demo being incomplete?
I wouldn't have kissed that girl or thought those thoughts or fucked that other girl.
Harems and promiscuity turn me off, so this doesn't appeal to me.
Options do provide some kink as well as cater to the variation in people's interests.
So options are very useful, but they present some more workload.
Kinetic Novels are in much less demand, though.

The amount of content in this demo is pretty impressive.
That's a good amount of work.

Given what I'm seeing here:
Due to my tastes, I would not put this on my Watchlist.
You're capable of making something high quality, but it doesn't seem to be my style.
Most of the mother/son content in the industry isn't my style, either, though.
It's all so much of the same 'milfs must be improbable or anatomically inaccurate tall hourglasses, or 18 year old spinners, in order to be attractive'; and I'm rarely ever immersed by this or the writers' decisions.
>"I'm self-conscious about my body..."
No... please.
This trope only belongs to those who deserve it.
However, if I see this pop in the catalogue, I would have at least enough interest to investigate what's happening with it.

I don't think I'm your target.
It's impossible to make everyone your target.


You're the dev, so you're the executive.
Feedback or insight can be useful, but the way you make your game is ultimately your decision.
Good luck.
 

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That can only happen if the shared person is a secondary character completely optional and unrelated to the family and creation of that character is completely up to you guys. Once we are in the part of our process which enables us to introduce secondary optional characters, we will open polls to see what is wanted next. Family members are the MC's territory. We don't want another Eric situation.(most hated part of an otherwise good game if you don't count being unfinished imo)
If you want my 2 cents, don't add it even for side characters because that is still bound to piss off people, just focus all the content on the mc and the girls and whatever story you want but don't waste time/renders on that because even if they are not the family and it won't be an Eric situation some games end up with better side characters than the main Li's, I can probably name many games where the side characters are better than the main Li's (like badik and few others) and I know is a question of taste but in such games the popularity never goes to what you think it may go and when it comes to such fetishes like sharing, swinging, ntr etc and you say openly the game is not going to center on it you will certainly dissapoint many and get backslash for it, most of us and I include myself are spoiled by many amazing devs to a point where we want harem routes even in games that are clearly a "choose 1 girl" type of game. The best thing you can do is have a clear vision of what game you want to make and stay true to that vision, don't let people dictate the fetishes later because the flow of your support will always suffer no matter the result of the poll.

About rng or dice: that only works for mmorpgs where you get items, when it comes to choices or ways to alter a conversation/story let always the player have the choice, never give that power to dice or rng because it will take away the control of the player (and that is probably the most important thing for players).

PS: If you want to make polls or give some control to the players you can always make polls for clothes or maybe even new girls, let players vote for names, hair, clothes or things like that but never something that alters your vision of the game like I said before, it always backfires.
Good luck.
 
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NemesiaProductions

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If you want my 2 cents, don't add it even for side characters because that is still bound to piss off people, just focus all the content on the mc and the girls and whatever story you want but don't waste time/renders on that because even if they are not the family and it won't be an Eric situation some games end up with better side characters than the main Li's, I can probably name many games where the side characters are better than the main Li's (like badik and few others) and I know is a question of taste but in such games the popularity never goes to what you think it may go and when it comes to such fetishes like sharing, swinging, ntr etc and you say openly the game is not going to center on it you will certainly dissapoint many and get backslash for it, most of us and I include myself are spoiled by many amazing devs to a point where we want harem routes even in games that are clearly a "choose 1 girl" type of game. The best thing you can do is have a clear vision of what game you want to make and stay true to that vision, don't let people dictate the fetishes later because the flow of your support will always suffer no matter the result of the poll.

About rng or dice: that only works for mmorpgs where you get items, when it comes to choices or ways to alter a conversation/story let always the player have the choice, never give that power to dice or rng because it will take away the control of the player.
Good luck.
Thank you so much mate. Like stated before, nothing is set in stone however we are going over the script since the release and looks like we haven't planned any NTR/Sharing/Swinging content for the future anyway(got the next 5 years somewhat planned). I don't believe we will have any issue on that department. Sadly, what we thought as a non-ntr interaction has been misunderstood as heavy-ntr content but thats mainly because there is no continuation of that said scene in the demo. Also we don't even have a side character that can contain storylines like those.

Thank you so much again mate. It was a very well written feedback. o/
 

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Thank you so much mate. Like stated before, nothing is set in stone however we are going over the script since the release and looks like we haven't planned any NTR/Sharing/Swinging content for the future anyway(got the next 5 years somewhat planned). I don't believe we will have any issue on that department. Sadly, what we thought as a non-ntr interaction has been misunderstood as heavy-ntr content but thats mainly because there is no continuation of that said scene in the demo. Also we don't even have a side character that can contain storylines like those.

Thank you so much again mate. It was a very well written feedback. o/
Yea I get it, people can get attached very fast to any girl in the game be it a main girl or side girl, so that's why most devs usually avoid that and only center the story on the mc and the girls, except for the ones that mix those fetishes... the main problem is they are seeing a girl they like getting banged, even if that is dream/imagination of the mc it will still have a negative effect on the player, devs can control how the mc feels but not how the player will feel (that is usually something not many take into account)
In any case, we all only learn through feedback and mistakes, is not the first time it happens and won't be the last haha so don't worry about it (y)

btw, how are you planning the updates, by chapters or something else?:unsure:
 

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Yea I get it, people can get attached very fast to any girl in the game be it a main girl or side girl, so that's why most devs usually avoid that and only center the story on the mc and the girls, except for the ones that mix those fetishes... the main problem is they are seeing a girl they like getting banged, even if that is dream/imagination of the mc it will still have a negative effect on the player, devs can control how the mc feels but not how the player will feel (that is usually something not many take into account)
In any case, we all only learn through feedback and mistakes, is not the first time it happens and won't be the last haha so don't worry about it (y)

btw, how are you planning the updates, by chapters or something else?:unsure:
We are planning to release a chapter first. Afterwards, we will populate that chapter with a couple of minor updates. When we are/you are satisfied with the chapters content, we will release the following chapter. Thats the best idea we could come up with since we will make a big open world. Main quest line first, additional content later seems like a good plan on the development side too. But we are extremely open to suggestions so fire away :)
 

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We are planning to release a chapter first. Afterwards, we will populate that chapter with a couple of minor updates. When we are/you are satisfied with the chapters content, we will release the following chapter. Thats the best idea we could come up with since we will make a big open world. Main quest line first, additional content later seems like a good plan on the development side too. But we are extremely open to suggestions so fire away :)
It depends on the schedule and how much content each chapter will have, if you can do chapters monthly or every 2 months it may be a fine schedule for a game, if you can't then it may be better to center updates in "girl" content like many other devs has done in the past to put out content and updates faster, after all being active when you start a game is the most important to get noticed and support.
 

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Hi folks. Another update from the upcoming OneShot. Production is going nicely apart from a last minute design change which you can read about by clicking the image. As you might have noticed from our demo, we are using real lighting(meaning there is no light in the scene if there is no sun/lamp/candle etc to provide it in the scene just like real life) even if it means leaving some areas dark but we are also countering that issue with clever camera work. However we also want to hear your opinion on the matter. We think that using real lighting instead of using invisible light planes to light up everything in the scene results in more immersive and believable imagery. We are open to suggestions and criticism so feel free to drop some keystrokes here or down below the patreon post. Enjoy <3

 
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