VN Ren'Py The Fiery Scion [Update 29c] [Vander]

[HiHaHo]

eh,

Spoiler: Mab question?

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all info i have is still from up to update 28.

the mc himself said to her face that she is more vulnerable because she's recovering from the duel.
she's also promissed(which for fae is magic-ly bound) no more messing around more with the wildale family,or Aetas & roger's family.

i don't remember any mention off people we actually know going after her perse aside from a remark from the MC ,that athagan wouldn't let someone do what she did in home without some kinda payback.
personally i don't think he'd go with a direct approach.

but i suspect you've played update 29,so you might know a bit more.

 

[GodofLies]

The MC seems to think Mab won't last too long after threatening Athagan's family. There was this conversation with Helen:

MC She threatened Father's son and granddaughter, in his own lands...do you really think he will be content with this victory?

And later this conversation with Luke, Helen's father:

MC No. She came to my father's hall and threatened his family in front of him. What do you think her life expectancy is, Sir?

 

[Chaotic_Human]

Vanderer, could you please add to the codex the age of each character (or at the very least, of the LIs)?

Sure, some of them were already mentioned in-game (The ones I remember being: MC [25], Maria [4], Princess Arwen [39], Julia [46 or 48], Solange [6], Princess Valerie [60], etc.), but I think it would make more sense to add them to the codex.

 

[Jokeronlne]

Love the game and enjoy every update. Looking forward to this next one when it goes public. I'm currently replaying it again to refresh my memory on the story before the update. In Part 3, I noticeda slight hiccup for two one of the side characters when the MC runs across her in the street after coming back from the capital. The game says it is Dorcas and MC addresses her as such, but it actually Ethel he runs into. Dorcas and Ethel are also swapped in the Codex as well. I know neither are LI's and don't have a lot of game time, but just thought I would point it out, since I see Vanderer comment on here now and then.

Vanderer, thanks for putting out a great game and a great story.

 

[STATE_]

I love the game but want to see the Mc in battles and some badass moments like the fight with Agathan and Mab

 

[Call of Booty]

It's out today for 5 bucks. Public release is set for January 2d.

 

[obitus]

Why is he taking his anger out on Miriella too? Hector’s being a jerk for overprotecting his daughter when Henri is nothing but polite to her. It makes sense to be mad at Hector, but how did Miriella deserve any of that anger?

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[RobLocksley]

Why is he taking his anger out on Miriella too? Hector’s being a jerk for overprotecting his daughter when Henri is nothing but polite to her. It makes sense to be mad at Hector, but how did Miriella deserve any of that anger?

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If I recall correctly, the issue was Hector was using his daughter's business to get profit, so despite she got some profit, the issue was Hector was getting a lot of it. You have a point though, because if she failed, that would affect her more. I don't recall that part in detail; did it really seem main character (MC) Henri was taking it out on her or more in general against her father?

 

[obitus]

If I recall correctly, the issue was Hector was using his daughter's business to get profit, so despite she got some profit, the issue was Hector was getting a lot of it. You have a point though, because if she failed, that would affect her more. I don't recall that part in detail; did it really seem main character (MC) Henri was taking it out on her or more in general against her father?

Yeah, because right after that line, he goes on to talk to Hector:

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And wow, he wasn’t even being overprotective of her as a daughter—he was treating her as a woman instead.

 

[RobLocksley]

Yeah, because right after that line, he goes on to talk to Hector:

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And wow, he wasn’t even being overprotective of her as a daughter—he was treating her as a woman instead.

He kind of was being overprotective, but that's not all there is to it... you'll see soon what the issue is.

 

[HiHaHo]

its been said very often that the MC has a temper.
yes he's being mean to miri but all that anger is towards her father,she's caught in the middle off it.

and we already how the rest off that scene plays out.

 

[kMimster]

He was making public statement, thats why it look like he was being mean. But what he was saying to her as long you work in your father shop (and that was Hector shop) my house will not do business whit you! Thats why later on MC talk with Athy to get her her own shop because he loves her work!

 

[HiHaHo]

He was making public statement, thats why it look like he was being mean. But what he was saying to her as long you work in your father shop (and that was Hector shop) my house will not do business whit you! Thats why later on MC talk with Athy to get her her own shop because he loves her work!

funny thing was he didn't have to talk anthagan into it.
he already started the proces,he knew i'd be a good investment.

besides i do think the MC has a some reason he could be a bit mad/upset with miri,he sused out later that she was accepting his advances for protection from her father,not because she's into him perse(at the time).
being used like that is reason enough to earn at least some words in upset tone,this all is after that incident though maybe a spanking is in order the wedding.

 

[FrozenPie1]

IMHO: I have the impression that the MC is lacking a considerable degree of empathy and understanding towards people (and their choices) who can't fend/fight for themself, no matter what their (valid) reasons, past experiences or circumstances are. This borders towards a very noticable arrogancy on his part towards people who make choices he would have never done but these people could only make (because they lack power, either physical or character-wise to do any different without suffering heavy consequences). If he's given the choice he's treading the way of confrontation (while being insensitive) and not of understanding, always believing his choices are the only right ones and everyone else is lacking conviction or isn't trying hard enough (my personal impression of his character up until now).

 

[kMimster]

IMHO: I have the impression that the MC is lacking a considerable degree of empathy and understanding towards people (and their choices) who can't fend/fight for themself, no matter what their (valid) reasons, past experiences or circumstances are. This borders towards a very noticable arrogancy on his part towards people who make choices he would have never done but these people could only make (because they lack power, either physical or character-wise to do any different without suffering heavy consequences). If he's given the choice he's treading the way of confrontation (while being insensitive) and not of understanding, always believing his choices are the only right ones and everyone else is lacking conviction or isn't trying hard enough (my personal impression of his character up until now).

A lot of that comes from MC being a mage and how their society perceive and expectations from being a mage. Mind you Anthagan didn't raise him personally to be like that.

 

[FrozenPie1]

A lot of that comes from MC being a mage and how their society perceive and expectations from being a mage. Mind you Anthagan didn't raise him personally to be like that.

Might be, but that's the stuff tyrants are made of and I dread the day Athagan dies (or retires), putting the MC effectively in charge.
The MC will need a reality check, sooner or later and one way or the other, teaching him that he's not always right, that his choices can and will put others (directly or indirectly) in serious or even life threatening danger and that his actions can cause animosity and suffering which will not put him but his loved ones in danger. He will one day have to learn that force, strong headedness, conviction, principles, etc. cannot solve everything (e.g. a situation where all the power he has is useless and he has to make sacrifices and live with them), especially if you force them on people who realistically can't do or live by them. And he especially has to learn that everyone else has made different living experiences, causing them to perceive the world differently and therefore act different if given a situation. Character growth would be the keyword. His harem isn't helping in that regard as they idolize him and are effectively forming an echo-chamber amplifying his believe in himself while caressing his ego.

 

[Armo99]

i surprised MC is adult person in general. he literaly not have human relation expirience.

 

[HiHaHo]

i surprised MC is adult person in general. he literaly not have human relation expirience.

he's sheltered ,for a reason,unstable mage & all that.
aside from a few mage's teaching magic he's only been around people for a little more then a month.

 

[FrozenPie1]

he's sheltered ,for a reason,unstable mage & all that.
aside from a few mage's teaching magic he's only been around people for a little more then a month.

A guy with way too much power, no experience in society and complex human interactions, a distorted view of reality and people taken from books, stories, fantasy and word of mouth, while possibly having some form of PTSD after losing his mother (and killing innocents) and additionally has a really short fuse because of his heritage, is made the successor of the current lord, in a society that values men and mages (which he is both) very high. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[HiHaHo]

A guy with way too much power, no experience in society and complex human interactions, a distorted view of reality and people taken from books, stories, fantasy and word of mouth, while possibly having some form of PTSD after losing his mother (and killing innocents) and additionally has a really short fuse because of his heritage, is made the successor of the current lord, in a society that values men and mages (which he is both) very high. What could possibly go wrong?

well you're not entirely wrong.
but athagan was always around,he basicly raised him during his puberty stage ,he met karla and had a daughter.
he got some things going for him.
i wouldn't say PTSD from the events around his mothers death but it left some kinda trauma for sure.
overal i'd she he came out alright,aside from some anger controle issue's and lack of social "grace"/skills.
but do remember the MC having those kinda issue's is part off the story as intended.