3xpurt

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Honestly, I'd assume the order of the room buttons isn't necessarily the order the rooms are in. Frankly, it's really not nearly as standardized as you seem to thing it is either. A lot of where a bathroom and kitchen is is based much more on the walls that are made ticker for pipes to run though, rather than a consideration of where other rooms are, for example.


You can't access her room, at least not in the current public or leaked releases.

You can give her a dress to wear, though I personally don't know how (IIRC it is in the current release).
It's just grouping similar rooms together, so it's not so random. Sounds like you're speaking about a very specific design, for a very specific building, as there's a lot of variation of where pipes go, but rooms are still usually grouped together by type.
 

souldead341

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It's just grouping similar rooms together, so it's not so random. Sounds like you're speaking about a very specific design, for a very specific building, as there's a lot of variation of where pipes go, but rooms are still usually grouped together by type.
Again, it all depends a massive amount on the individual house. Yes, there are houses with rooms of the same type grouped together, and there are also plenty of houses where the types of rooms are somewhat randomly distributed, depending entirely on the people who live there.

As for pipes, again not really. You're much more likely to find rooms requiring water pipes have a shared wall and / or are right above each other. A second floor bathroom is more likely to be above the first floor bathroom or kitchen, since then you have less pipe to run around and some types of pipe require a thicker wall. Similarly a bathroom is more likely to share a wall with a kitchen than not, again due to needing to run less pipe around.

Regardless, I'm going to leave this here to not continue off topic.
 

3xpurt

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Again, it all depends a massive amount on the individual house. Yes, there are houses with rooms of the same type grouped together, and there are also plenty of houses where the types of rooms are somewhat randomly distributed, depending entirely on the people who live there.

As for pipes, again not really. You're much more likely to find rooms requiring water pipes have a shared wall and / or are right above each other. A second floor bathroom is more likely to be above the first floor bathroom or kitchen, since then you have less pipe to run around and some types of pipe require a thicker wall. Similarly a bathroom is more likely to share a wall with a kitchen than not, again due to needing to run less pipe around.

Regardless, I'm going to leave this here to not continue off topic.
While you are correct about plumbing for upstairs and downstairs, in some cases, You're being too pedantic about specific house types. I'm just speaking generally. Not allowing for renovations, specific setups and the likes, it's about the flow and location of rooms. My argument is about UI layout, not what houses you've seen in your life.

Right now, it goes Entry > Sam's bedroom > Kitchen > Bathroom > Living room > Robin's room. Most of the activities happen in the living room and kitchen. It would be more natural to go Entry > living room > kitchen > Bathroom > Bedrooms.
The reason for his is that the living room should be the common room, right after the entry, the bathroom is often something you do before bed, or after waking up, so should be next to the bedrooms. Then, after you've cleaned up, you can either go to the kitchen or bedroom, depending on time of day. Then in the mornings before school, you meet Robin in the living room, before exiting, which makes sense to leave from the living room at the front of the apartment closest to the door.

The UI button issue is more than the apartment, it applies to other areas too, such as the apartment courtyard. You exit to the courtyard, and the natural flow would be to go from the courtyard to the street, then the bus stop, but the street is on the opposite side of the panel, away from the bus stop or the courtyard, which is just confusing for new folks, as it doesn't flow with the logic of the location, and seems like the buttons are all random, like the apartment. This doesn't help us make visual maps in our heads for remembering locations or button positions.
 
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Destom

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I’m really looking forward to the release of the public version, but it’s still sad that I’ll have to wait a month for the version on Android (Sam, I understand that this doesn’t depend on you, I’m just comfortable playing on the phone, but they port it very slowly, a whole month) I’m really looking forward to the release of the update , I will play on the computer, since this update will be hot, I think so
 
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Right now, it goes Entry > Sam's bedroom > Kitchen > Bathroom > Living room > Robin's room. Most of the activities happen in the living room and kitchen. It would be more natural to go Entry > living room > kitchen > Bathroom > Bedrooms.
The reason for his is that the living room should be the common room, right after the entry, the bathroom is often something you do before bed, or after waking up, so should be next to the bedrooms. Then, after you've cleaned up, you can either go to the kitchen or bedroom, depending on time of day. Then in the mornings before school, you meet Robin in the living room, before exiting, which makes sense to leave from the living room at the front of the apartment closest to the door.
In my apartment, the living room is on the opposite end of the entry to allow for a balcony and large windows on that side. It also allows the living room to be bigger since the hallway doesn't cut the apartment layout in two there without weird corners (which take away from the available space) and still have the living room be accessed by going straight ahead from the entry, so it allows you to see the most logical destination as soon as you step indoors. Kitchen and bathroom are adjacent due to plumbing though.

Same with the bedroom. Since it's a sideroom, exiting the bedroom you see the bathroom right ahead of you and the kitchen and storage room are on opposite ends of the hallway as well. Putting it in a line it looks like an absolute mess (Entry > Kitchen > Storage room > Bathroom > Bedroom > Living room > Hobby room with balcony) so maybe a small clickable minimap would be better?
 

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So, the next massive update... It's almost like a DLC for The Fixer. Will it be released before Phantom Liberty or before Shadow of the Erdtree?
dev said back at the end of june that they were aiming for a release at the end of july and its been a while since then so off that alone you can hope that its any day now. Looks like pre-release was also put up on their patreon a week ago so hopefully sometime within a week? Seems like sam also mentioned they had gotten a fever a couple days ago and had been bedridden so idk man it gets released when it gets released.
 

swilliam

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dev said back at the end of june that they were aiming for a release at the end of july and its been a while since then so off that alone you can hope that its any day now. Looks like pre-release was also put up on their patreon a week ago so hopefully sometime within a week? Seems like sam also mentioned they had gotten a fever a couple days ago and had been bedridden so idk man it gets released when it gets released.
I think the reason people are getting antsy is simply because the release has been "Soon" for months now, not helped by the most recent answer a week or so ago also being "Soon" rather than any semi-tangible timeline.

Is the recent "Soon" a few more months or actually soon? No one knows so people keep mentioning it.
 

Destom

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I think the reason people are getting antsy is simply because the release has been "Soon" for months now, not helped by the most recent answer a week or so ago also being "Soon" rather than any semi-tangible timeline.

Is the recent "Soon" a few more months or actually soon? No one knows so people keep mentioning it.
Yes, we are really looking forward to the official release, I hope it will be soon, although at the same time, there has been no news from the DoL developers since June. I hope these updates will make a splash.
 

souldead341

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At least in the case of this game Sam Tail is pretty active at posting news and (patreon only) game updates. Just from the publicly visible first lines on patreon, they were bugfixing but sick 3 days ago, with the latest patreon version released on the 5th. It just takes a long while between public releases.
 
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"Changelog from .54 to .60 Added (again) the animated drunk effects and the floating hearts effect now performance has been fixed Fixed some save compatibility issues when loading from 3.0 Fixed performance issues. This shouldn’t just be a minor improvement but a huge one and things should run very smoothly now. Please give feedback on how your performance is now. Fixed rollback lag caused by the talking character highlight NOTE. Performance should be SIGNIFICANTLY better. But I can only test on my own devices, so please inform me if you notice the improvements or if you cannot notice a difference. ANOTHER NOTE, If you are loading an old save, you need to move the game forward so none of the old saves rollback memory is in the buffer. The fixer has 50 steps of rollback so progress a bit for the rollback slowdown to be fixed Added new cleaning GGs. An upskirt with maid/bar/dungarees variations and a simple generic scene Added cleaning events depending on locations Edited and expanded the cleaning job so it can be used in all locations Added a debug test cleaning event for the bar to test how things work in multiple locations Added cleaning quest separate from the “paying rent” quest Paying rent cleaning stats/pay switched over to the cleaning quest Cleaning quest has new maid quest image Pub can only be cleaned when Sammy cannot work the actual pub. If the time rolls over into actual pub work hours, Sammy is given the choice to switch to working the pub Cleaning changed from once a day to once every 4 hours. May switch to being repeatable if there are enough events for it (once prostitution is in) Added cleaning events at the bar while working normal shifts Changelog from .50 to .54 Completed the 3p on top CG Added gags to many of the existing CGs Fixed infinite loop while wearing a gag Completed the on desk sex art CG Added a gag to some of the other CGs Fixed issue with on of the scenes shown while cleaning where breasts and other bits would display incorrectly Added new receptionist NPC to the hospital with a few mini events with her Updated the Psychologist/dr brooker art Added unique diary death and location entries for Shane and Marcus Added pregnancy classes in school that replaces swimming Added addiction random events Fixed icons for wanted and unwanted pregnancy Fixed bug when meeting Robin for the first time while naked Changelog from .31 to .50 Renamed nurse Camilla to nurse Lilly as her name was annoyingly long otherwise Added new character sprite for nurse Lily Dead NPCs now show up as dead in the diary Updated shop interface to show how much discount you are getting if any Time of day colour changes now change gradually Adjusted font for the name tag, made larger and gave slightly different colours for each character so it’s easier to tell when someone new is talking (needs new game to appear) Characters who are talking now have their character sprite highlighted and slightly enlarged Added tattoo shop to revel backstreets. You can get tattoos or make body writing permanent (need to have the writing first) Added funwear shop to revel backstreets. It sells any clothes tagged as “slutty” Shop vendors can now give discounts. Lake dealer will give discounts for sex acts, jaylee will give discounts on account of being friends and wandering the market will give random discounts Item names and descriptions added to all items and clothes. Needs a new game to update. Added new items. Energy drink to boost energy, food bar to eat and boost mood, entertainment magazine to boost mood and porn magazine to max out desire NPC’s now adjust their colour based on time and weather like Sammy does Added new sex CG’s for Robin. Blowjob and againstwall Updated soccer boys talk to account for some Robin stuff Added new BG behind the old locker room Added new BG sex character art to the lockers and behind old lockers Added more variety to the “I’m horny”, “I’m drunk” and “cumming” cut in dialogue Added new cut in dialogue for when Sammy is having sex, selling herself with whore perk, selling herself reluctantly and being forced Adjusted the face flushing effect so it appears progressively with desire. The same with the drunk face flush and the sweat effect Updated Shane and Marcus art and added poisoned art for them After stealing poison beer from Sammy, Shane and Marcus will progressively get sicker and die after 10 days Added in bully suffering events for when you poison the bullies Added mini events for after the bullies die of poison Reduced the bimbo perk requirements from less than 30 int within 15 days to less than 10 within 15 days. Added bully comments with Robin when in school Added new quest log images for Cosmetic surgery and dance troupe Dance troupe now gets added to quest diary as a job. This is mostly to track sex stats and remind players when they can participate. Added dance troupe event button to the gym so if you didnt attend class beforehand, you can still take part in the event. Sammy only showers before dance quest now if your hygiene is low Made it so you can choose to not wear socks/pants while working the pub even if you have the pants/socks in your wardrobe Getting groped on the bus no longer has a confidence hit Made the sleep, shower and a few other buttons expandable to clutter the UI less Added dance clothes to the upskirt pic and replaced the old one used during the dance storyline Robin now sneaks off with one of the boys if she is hanging out and you have told the boys she wants sex New button with the soccer boys using the expanding button thing New option with the boys to not drink beer New option when Robin sneaks off with one of the soccer boys to go and watch her Added random mini events to remind Sammy/Player that rent needs to be paid. Events depend on if Sammy has the money or not and if she has had sex with Oskar or not Oskar comes to the house on Sunday to collect rent If you are behind on rent, Oskar will harass you now and then demanding payment when you are in the home area Being too far behind on rent triggers Oskar to threaten to kick you out. After pleading with him he will give the casino job (can’t actually work there yet) Diary quest entry added for casino work with new bunny girl image Diary quest entry added for the photography line and new Sammy modelling image You can now wake Robin up when she is drunk on the sofa and shoo her to bed. Doesn’t really mean anything now but will later once more flatmates are in Fixed up issues with meeting Felix in the dark room Commando perk changed. Can now wear and buy all underwear. Random events will trigger on rare occasions with Sammy complaining about wearing underwear if they are not thong/slutty tagged. Wearing underwear for long enough without these tags will lose the perk Updated soccer boys dialogue so perverted comments aimed at Sammy take into account if she is nude Update to fix some issues and lore inconsistencies with the Simon pub mission Fixed issue where when getting the recovering perk, you got a purple haze in your face Fixed issue where some choices should show as being wasted drunk Added new items poison and poisoned beer (only available through cheats for now) Added events to the bullies where they will rob and take items from Sammy. Greater chance of being robbed if poison beer is in inventory Added event where sammy uses poison on beer. Can only happen if the bully line is progressed enough or Cass is being targeted"
 

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I would allso like to see some bestiality in this game and allso some drugging, just some unnamed pills that you can be asked to take or get slipped in your drink.
I know Lebo can be slipped into your drinks.
If Sam_Tail adds bestiality content, I would like the option to have it fully disabled in the game settings.
 
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In my apartment, the living room is on the opposite end of the entry to allow for a balcony and large windows on that side. It also allows the living room to be bigger since the hallway doesn't cut the apartment layout in two there without weird corners (which take away from the available space) and still have the living room be accessed by going straight ahead from the entry, so it allows you to see the most logical destination as soon as you step indoors. Kitchen and bathroom are adjacent due to plumbing though.

Same with the bedroom. Since it's a sideroom, exiting the bedroom you see the bathroom right ahead of you and the kitchen and storage room are on opposite ends of the hallway as well. Putting it in a line it looks like an absolute mess (Entry > Kitchen > Storage room > Bathroom > Bedroom > Living room > Hobby room with balcony) so maybe a small clickable minimap would be better?
This conversation is legendary. Please continue.
 

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"Changelog from .54 to .60 Added (again) the animated drunk effects and the floating hearts effect now performance has been fixed Fixed some save compatibility issues when loading from 3.0 Fixed performance issues. This shouldn’t just be a minor improvement but a huge one and things should run very smoothly now. Please give feedback on how your performance is now. Fixed rollback lag caused by the talking character highlight NOTE. Performance should be SIGNIFICANTLY better. But I can only test on my own devices, so please inform me if you notice the improvements or if you cannot notice a difference. ANOTHER NOTE, If you are loading an old save, you need to move the game forward so none of the old saves rollback memory is in the buffer. The fixer has 50 steps of rollback so progress a bit for the rollback slowdown to be fixed Added new cleaning GGs. An upskirt with maid/bar/dungarees variations and a simple generic scene Added cleaning events depending on locations Edited and expanded the cleaning job so it can be used in all locations Added a debug test cleaning event for the bar to test how things work in multiple locations Added cleaning quest separate from the “paying rent” quest Paying rent cleaning stats/pay switched over to the cleaning quest Cleaning quest has new maid quest image Pub can only be cleaned when Sammy cannot work the actual pub. If the time rolls over into actual pub work hours, Sammy is given the choice to switch to working the pub Cleaning changed from once a day to once every 4 hours. May switch to being repeatable if there are enough events for it (once prostitution is in) Added cleaning events at the bar while working normal shifts Changelog from .50 to .54 Completed the 3p on top CG Added gags to many of the existing CGs Fixed infinite loop while wearing a gag Completed the on desk sex art CG Added a gag to some of the other CGs Fixed issue with on of the scenes shown while cleaning where breasts and other bits would display incorrectly Added new receptionist NPC to the hospital with a few mini events with her Updated the Psychologist/dr brooker art Added unique diary death and location entries for Shane and Marcus Added pregnancy classes in school that replaces swimming Added addiction random events Fixed icons for wanted and unwanted pregnancy Fixed bug when meeting Robin for the first time while naked Changelog from .31 to .50 Renamed nurse Camilla to nurse Lilly as her name was annoyingly long otherwise Added new character sprite for nurse Lily Dead NPCs now show up as dead in the diary Updated shop interface to show how much discount you are getting if any Time of day colour changes now change gradually Adjusted font for the name tag, made larger and gave slightly different colours for each character so it’s easier to tell when someone new is talking (needs new game to appear) Characters who are talking now have their character sprite highlighted and slightly enlarged Added tattoo shop to revel backstreets. You can get tattoos or make body writing permanent (need to have the writing first) Added funwear shop to revel backstreets. It sells any clothes tagged as “slutty” Shop vendors can now give discounts. Lake dealer will give discounts for sex acts, jaylee will give discounts on account of being friends and wandering the market will give random discounts Item names and descriptions added to all items and clothes. Needs a new game to update. Added new items. Energy drink to boost energy, food bar to eat and boost mood, entertainment magazine to boost mood and porn magazine to max out desire NPC’s now adjust their colour based on time and weather like Sammy does Added new sex CG’s for Robin. Blowjob and againstwall Updated soccer boys talk to account for some Robin stuff Added new BG behind the old locker room Added new BG sex character art to the lockers and behind old lockers Added more variety to the “I’m horny”, “I’m drunk” and “cumming” cut in dialogue Added new cut in dialogue for when Sammy is having sex, selling herself with whore perk, selling herself reluctantly and being forced Adjusted the face flushing effect so it appears progressively with desire. The same with the drunk face flush and the sweat effect Updated Shane and Marcus art and added poisoned art for them After stealing poison beer from Sammy, Shane and Marcus will progressively get sicker and die after 10 days Added in bully suffering events for when you poison the bullies Added mini events for after the bullies die of poison Reduced the bimbo perk requirements from less than 30 int within 15 days to less than 10 within 15 days. Added bully comments with Robin when in school Added new quest log images for Cosmetic surgery and dance troupe Dance troupe now gets added to quest diary as a job. This is mostly to track sex stats and remind players when they can participate. Added dance troupe event button to the gym so if you didnt attend class beforehand, you can still take part in the event. Sammy only showers before dance quest now if your hygiene is low Made it so you can choose to not wear socks/pants while working the pub even if you have the pants/socks in your wardrobe Getting groped on the bus no longer has a confidence hit Made the sleep, shower and a few other buttons expandable to clutter the UI less Added dance clothes to the upskirt pic and replaced the old one used during the dance storyline Robin now sneaks off with one of the boys if she is hanging out and you have told the boys she wants sex New button with the soccer boys using the expanding button thing New option with the boys to not drink beer New option when Robin sneaks off with one of the soccer boys to go and watch her Added random mini events to remind Sammy/Player that rent needs to be paid. Events depend on if Sammy has the money or not and if she has had sex with Oskar or not Oskar comes to the house on Sunday to collect rent If you are behind on rent, Oskar will harass you now and then demanding payment when you are in the home area Being too far behind on rent triggers Oskar to threaten to kick you out. After pleading with him he will give the casino job (can’t actually work there yet) Diary quest entry added for casino work with new bunny girl image Diary quest entry added for the photography line and new Sammy modelling image You can now wake Robin up when she is drunk on the sofa and shoo her to bed. Doesn’t really mean anything now but will later once more flatmates are in Fixed up issues with meeting Felix in the dark room Commando perk changed. Can now wear and buy all underwear. Random events will trigger on rare occasions with Sammy complaining about wearing underwear if they are not thong/slutty tagged. Wearing underwear for long enough without these tags will lose the perk Updated soccer boys dialogue so perverted comments aimed at Sammy take into account if she is nude Update to fix some issues and lore inconsistencies with the Simon pub mission Fixed issue where when getting the recovering perk, you got a purple haze in your face Fixed issue where some choices should show as being wasted drunk Added new items poison and poisoned beer (only available through cheats for now) Added events to the bullies where they will rob and take items from Sammy. Greater chance of being robbed if poison beer is in inventory Added event where sammy uses poison on beer. Can only happen if the bully line is progressed enough or Cass is being targeted"
Now take this and simply place it on the USA/Mexico border.
 

souldead341

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soooooo is it a visual bug that shes preggers and not every other photo?
I assume you mean the MC. Likely yes, there may be some scenes that don't have a pregnant version yet or you're not supposed to be able to access while pregnant.

A lot of the scenes will be either during missions (like Haven) or have being not pregnant as a requirement (like the dancing group). Random scenes have or will have pregnant variants or be angled or cropped to not show her stomach.
 

nickmray

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I assume you mean the MC. Likely yes, there may be some scenes that don't have a pregnant version yet or you're not supposed to be able to access while pregnant.

A lot of the scenes will be either during missions (like Haven) or have being not pregnant as a requirement (like the dancing group). Random scenes have or will have pregnant variants or be angled or cropped to not show her stomach.
ahhh i see cause ive restarted the game 3 times, and after she gets out the hospital shes insta pregnant
 
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