Ren'Py The Headmaster [Mykock's Manor Ch.3] [Altos and Herdone]

[Living In A Lewd World]

I agree totally with the post before, sprites are an interesting technique, but they only work for rather "simple" images. The closer you want to come to reality, the less this technique will work, as it neglects any lighting in an image, what can heavily influence the atmosphere. It works also primarily, when you take images only from certain perspectives, as you would need an extra set of sprites for any possible perspective, you want to use. And using different perspectives is also something, that deters heavily the athmosphere, as you can make images look totally different e.g. when you take a low-angle-shot and an high-angle-shot.

Btw, the headmaster already uses Sprites for parts of the punishment scenes (when the culprits stand directly in front of the headmaster). Also most of the writings like what is written on the blackboards were once part of the images, but were in one of the recent updates changed to being real letters, so that translation gets easier done.

 

[Cartageno]

I agree totally with the post before, sprites are an interesting technique, but they only work for rather "simple" images. The closer you want to come to reality, the less this technique will work

Which is why most games using sprites (in RenPy) don't even try to sell it as real, people are just lined up to show that they are there and may change expressions or similar, but never pretend to do something in the area - except being there.

 

[TheDevian]

Which is why most games using sprites (in RenPy) don't even try to sell it as real, people are just lined up to show that they are there and may change expressions or similar, but never pretend to do something in the area - except being there.

The only game I saw use 3D art with a layered sprite based setup like that, was Love of Magic, most tend to look bad.
That said, if you want to bet technical, even a full screen render is considered a "sprite" to Unity and other engines.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both options, though generally the full renders to look better for non-2D art styles like this.

 

[Cartageno]

The only game I saw use 3D art with a layered sprite based setup like that, was Love of Magic, most tend to look bad.
That said, if you want to bet technical, even a full screen render is considered a "sprite" to Unity and other engines.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both options, though generally the full renders to look better for non-2D art styles like this.

Um, unless we are talking different things, I could give you quite a few examples of the "somebody is here" sprite just as in Love of Magic. But I think we are digressing and the misbehaving girls stay unpunished while we are doing so, and the benefactors won't be happy ...

 

[TheDevian]

Um, unless we are talking different things, I could give you quite a few examples of the "somebody is here" sprite just as in Love of Magic. But I think we are digressing and the misbehaving girls stay unpunished while we are doing so, and the benefactors won't be happy ...

I meant to say "did it well", but you are right, time to get back to paddling. XD

 

[raven54]

Btw, the headmaster already uses Sprites for parts of the punishment scenes (when the culprits stand directly in front of the headmaster). Also most of the writings like what is written on the blackboards were once part of the images, but were in one of the recent updates changed to being real letters, so that translation gets easier done.

Interesting. That would make it easier to support multiple reasons. It still needs proper programming to work properly, so it still isn't "free" just because it doesn't need a graphical update. It will void the argument about size increase as a pure text upgrade will not really count in size.

So in the end, with this engine and (no offense meant) a dev like Altos who is not a seasoned programmer,

Clearly Altos is "good enough" considering that the game is actually working. A major part of programming is to make it easy to do and picking the right engine/language is part of it. Often the goal is to make a solution, which is "good enough" rather than spending ages on perfecting every single detail.

The punishment text doesn't need to be advanced programming. This can be done with if flag is X, then show this, else if, then etc. The problem isn't printing, but rather setting the flag to show the reason. That will have to be done in each location where the girl gets the punishment flag set, which will make her show up. Each time the flag isn't set in such a location, the reason will be incorrect, which is what I referred to by saying it will increase complexity and hence risk of bugs. Sure there are programming tricks, such as making a function to set everything in one call, hence making it impossible to forget setting one of the variables, but it would still need updating in every single existing location in the code where a girl is set to go to the office for punishment.

Doing something with programming isn't hard, particularly not entry level in Ren'Py. However figuring out code designs, which makes it hard to add bugs in the future is much harder. It generally takes years of experience with programming and learning from mistakes. Somebody who only does programming as opposed to the jack of all trades, which is needed to make a game.

Just out of curiosity, where would you prefer Devs to spend time?

To be honest, when I wrote about dev time, I was thinking of text update vs progressing the storyline without being anymore specific than that. Asking me where to progress the story isn't that interesting because we can ask 20 forum users and get 20 different answers. Why should my answer carry more value than the answers from so many other people?

But if you really want my answer, I would say progression of Emily and the beach storyline.

 

[Babakool]

Hello
For those who are interested, here is a guide translated into French in Pdf format

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Gegecucu]

Hello
For those who are interested, here is a guide translated into French in Pdf format
Workupload

Any kind moderator to add this to the OP?

 

[Phil5k]

* * * The Game Guide and Walkthrough have been updated. * * *
* * * Please see this post for the latest version. * * * ​

Updated Game Guide and Walkthrough
Version 0.15.3.1 public

Updated Game Guide

The Game Guide has now been updated for version 0.15.3.1 public.

The walkthrough section has undergone a large review to make sure it is up-to-date. The guide reflects the new questlog actions in Sally's staff quest, Rachel's second student quest, Harriet's student quest, and several other small changes. It includes other small changes to gameplay (e.g. different discipline requirements for passing the body search rule, the requirements to unlock some scenes in the replay menu) and additional information about some of the events.

It also includes all the new 0.15 beta and patreon changes, including the after-school training scenes, which involves a new main quest, a new staff quest for Miss Potts, and a new student quest for Debbie. This includes sex scenes with Amy and Miss Potts, and the eagerly anticipated scene where the twins get to punish Miss Potts.

Link Included in the Actual Game

As most of you will know, the cheat menu in the game has a option "get the detailed walkthrough" which will take you to a Mega folder that includes a copy of this walkthrough. This picture shows where the link is in the game:

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Available as a Single Document or in 3 Parts

The game guide is available as a single document. However, it is also available in 3 parts. Part 1 of the guide covers Chapter 1 of the game, and Part 2 covers Chapter 2. Part 3 includes additional information, including a detailed punishment guide for all the girls, information about the cheat menu and holiday specials, and reference information about increasing grades and discipline, passing school rules, earning money and more.

Separating the guide into 3 parts is designed to make it more accessible, particularly to newer players, and it also means it is easier to use automatic translation tools to read the guide.


Sample pages from the guide:

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You can download the guide(s) below, or for more details see my main post here. As always, comments and suggestions are welcome. Hope you find it useful!

French Translation

I couldn't quite believe it, but Babakool managed to post a French translation of Part 1 of this updated guide before I even managed to post the original here! The translation is available here for anyone who wants it.

Complete Game Guide​

or:​

Game Guide Part 1​

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Game Guide Part 2​

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Game Guide Part 3​

Edited 2024-09-08: link to new version

 

[fulcrum]

trixie star is an undercover agent, shes way too forthcoming and listens too much.

AltosandHerdone
i probably keep repeating myself, but re-applying sunscreen (weekend patrol) is useless, the skin is saturated and burns even if you put a whole bottle on it.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

i probably keep repeating myself, but re-applying sunscreen (weekend patrol) is useless, the skin is saturated and burns even if you put a whole bottle on it.

I disagree. It's extremely useful. It gives you an excuse to get your hands on the girls. I can imagine some further developments on this scene being added in to take effect as either school horniness or MC's popularity increases or maybe even tied in to the progression of Faye's and Liz's storylines. Or maybe even turning into a sports therapy massage session the Headmaster runs after class. See plenty of uses.

 

[Cartageno]

I disagree. It's extremely useful. It gives you an excuse to get your hands on the girls. I can imagine some further developments on this scene being added in to take effect as either school horniness or MC's popularity increases or maybe even tied in to the progression of Faye's and Liz's storylines. Or maybe even turning into a sports therapy massage session the Headmaster runs after class. See plenty of uses.

You make it sound like we're only interested in touching the girls in more or less appropriate places and not really caring about their educational wellbeing ...

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

You make it sound like we're only interested in touching the girls in more or less appropriate places and not really caring about their educational wellbeing ...

Heyyy. Not at all. Just following the adage, A healthy body. A healthy mind... Being the Headmaster of that educational establishment is a tough job but I am willing to make tha sacrifice.

 

[fulcrum]

You make it sound like we're only interested in touching the girls in more or less appropriate places and not really caring about their educational wellbeing ...

I am not sure the girls are all entirely as unwilling as they say to begin with, otherwise the chikan option in the "fuck work watch porn" action wouldnt be throwing an error. I believe its been blocked by mykock because that may where MC's videos end up and at least some of these girls are planted porn actors or something.

 

[GamerDaddy]

I am not sure the girls are all entirely as unwilling as they say to begin with, otherwise the chikan option in the "fuck work watch porn" action wouldnt be throwing an error. I believe its been blocked by mykock because that may where MC's videos end up and at least some of these girls are planted porn actors or something.

if ya think about it there is one student that has a smoking habit that her blind is closed (that is because she is streaming herself) imo

 

[gameit]

Any update on android version?

 

[BigGameD33R]

im getting a bug, on android when doing the watergun fight doesnt load the jpg. Can't ignore or rollback it crashes the game.

 

[Bob9999]

hey, I'm stuck and don't know how to start spanking connoiseur part 1. I have rule that makes all students strip to underwear and I punished amy, yet I can not make her lvl2

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

hey, I'm stuck and don't know how to start spanking connoiseur part 1. I have rule that makes all students strip to underwear and I punished amy, yet I can not make her lvl2

Check out the Game Guide post linked through the OP. All the answers you seek are there. The same info is available in game behind the 'do not press' button on the replay screen.

 

[Bob9999]

Check out the Game Guide post linked through the OP. All the answers you seek are there. The same info is available in game behind the 'do not press' button on the replay screen.

Game says that I need to have rule that makes students remove their skirs. I have that rule yet I can not lvl up Amy.