Ren'Py The Headmaster [v0.16.3] [Altos and Herdone]

[Haley Smith]

why is this "Consent" issue is being discussed again? afaik the students's parents consented to send their daughters away to a distant school and the school have a set of rules to which they consented when signing the papers. Nothing illegal methinks if that's the ethical issue here.

then again I'm not a lawyer so...

Meh it's basically a blackmail school used to train "wives" for the super rich. THis first class is probably going to be a new staff force for the next generation of the school. Consent is the question but this is a corruption game. if people have issues with NTR and don't know how to walk away then they question things like consent. Is there consent legally no. Is there a fun game based around corrupting beautiful women yes. Should you care about this minor issue, No.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Coercion is not consent. However, we like to support the creator so we do. Patreon pays well and has a system so if you want them to get shut down and get yourself blacklisted... don't.

Nobody wants to shut this game down. And the story is not relevant for most users who just play it for porn, schoolgirl, uniform, spanking and other fetishes. But if the ethical aspects of the story are relevant for Patreon, there should be at least a discussion if it is possible to find a story variation which complies with Patreon rules, does not really change the game content and results in a consistent story.

 

[yuserneim]

Should you care about this minor issue, No.

I agree.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Meh it's basically a blackmail school used to train "wives" for the super rich. THis first class is probably going to be a new staff force for the next generation of the school. Consent is the question but this is a corruption game. if people have issues with NTR and don't know how to walk away then they question things like consent. Is there consent legally no. Is there a fun game based around corrupting beautiful women yes. Should you care about this minor issue, No.

Does this game counts as NTR? I don't think so.

So far the school has handselected girls and the HM is supposed to spank and photograph the girls in front of a hidden camera for the unknown school owners who provide additional funds. It is similar to a cam girl business specialised on spanking schoolgirls with the difference that only HM and Mykock know about the camera business and the girls were not asked if they want to participate.

The story would have a different touch if HM would not know about the camera or the connection between punishments and additional funds ... He may find out later when he solves the death of the old headmaster.
The setting would be more plausible if the whole school would have cameras everywhere.

 

[Haley Smith]

Does this game counts as NTR? I don't think so.

So far the school has handselected girls and the HM is supposed to spank and photograph the girls in front of a hidden camera for the unknown school owners who provide additional funds. It is similar to a cam girl business specialised on spanking schoolgirls with the difference that only HM and Mykock know about the camera business and the girls were not asked if they want to participate.

The story would have a different touch if HM would not know about the camera or the connection between punishments and additional funds ... He may find out later when he solves the death of the old headmaster.
The setting would be more plausible if the whole school would have cameras everywhere.

Yeah just double checked my definition of ntr vs the internet and realise that I made a mistake. NTR is more cuckhold than mind break. So I meant mind breaking.

 

[Phil5k]

it’s made clear that the girls can leave if they want, ...

Maybe on the Patreon page, but not inside the game :

"Have any of the girls every tried to run away?
...A couple have tried but they don't get far... There are guards at the station who would stop any student"

My apologies, I wasn’t clear in my previous post.

In the first punishment scenes with Debbie and Rachel, it’s made clear that the girls have a choice: she can “submit willingly” to her punishment, or she can refuse and be expelled. But being expelled means that should would likely be conscripted into the army.

So when I said the girls could leave, I didn't mean to suggest they could simply walk out the school gates and go home. I meant that they could choose to leave the school by being expelled. But that would have consequences (like conscription), and the girls would have to face those consequences. If any of the girls tried to avoid those consequences by running away.... well, that's what the guards at the station are for.

Aren't there any blueprints for a story where girls voluntary submit to spanking and punishment without means like blackmail, abuse of power or slavery?

Yes there are. It’s called 50 Shades of Grey. But having been forced to sit through one of the films, all I can say is that I’m really glad that Altos isn’t trying to recreate that film.

More seriously, almost by definition any story based in an institutional environment (school, prison, hospital etc) has to face that fact that there is a severe inherent power imbalance between the people running the institution, and those inside the institution. That means having to consider issues such as coercion and abuse of power, etc. I think it would be more unrealistic to ignore this and pretend it doesn’t exist. Far better, I think, is to address it in a meaningful and (semi-) realistic fashion that adds to the story.

Having said that, as you’ve already mentioned, there are lots of girls at this school who clearly enjoy (or don’t mind) what's happening to them e.g. exhibitionist Liz, kinky Amy, prefect Debbie, Lucy the maid. I suspect that’s about as close to vanilla consensual BDSM as you’re likely to find in a school-based spanking game.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to spanking my safe, sane, consenting schoolgirls... and the hot female faculty staff.

 

[erkper]

Aren't there any blueprints for a story where girls voluntary submit to spanking and punishment without means like blackmail, abuse of power or slavery?

I hate naming other games in a game thread, but if you really want to find one, check out Harem Hotel - it has a BDSM dungeon you can bring (some of) the girls down to for all kinds of 100% voluntary fun.

 

[yuserneim]

Having said that, as you’ve already mentioned, there are lots of girls at this school who clearly enjoy (or don’t mind) what's happening to them e.g. exhibitionist Liz, kinky Amy, prefect Debbie, Lucy the maid.

okay since the door has being slighly opened imma try to shamelessly change the subject: Sooooooooooooooo, errrrrrrrrrrr I'm really intrigued how the dev is gonna deal with the weaknesses for the rest of the girls. Exploiting the girls' weaknesses has proven effective with Debbie and at a lesser extent with Amy (He already made her change the habit of coming late to classes) so, I was wondering how or what are the next weaknesses discovered. We kinda know Lizzie's, who is an exhibitionist but how would you work with that? And what Cass and Rachel's weaknesses would be? I'm really looking forward to see how that part of the game plays out.

 

[Phil5k]

I'm really intrigued how the dev is gonna deal with the weaknesses for the rest of the girls... We kinda know Lizzie's, who is an exhibitionist but how would you work with that? And what Cass and Rachel's weaknesses would be? I'm really looking forward to see how that part of the game plays out.

I think everyone reading this thread is looking forward to seeing how that part of the game plays out

We know Cass has semi-reluctantly engaged in lesbian activities with Debbie. So while Debbie gets pleasure from Miss Newman, maybe Cass will get extra humiliation from Miss Newman. (Or even better, imagine if you could get Debbie to spank and masturbate her )

With Liz, I think it might be something like she gets extra pleasure if your strip her naked, or take photos of her, or if there is someone else in the room watching her punishment.

Rachel's the opposite - we know she doesn't like showing off her body in the shower. So I suspect that stripping her will increase her humiliation. (We also know Rachel doesn't like Debbie, so again, imagine what would happen if you could get Debbie to strip and spank her. )

As for the other girls? Well, the twins won the last patreon poll, so I'm hoping we'll see some more content from them soon. I don't have a clue what their weaknesses might be. But I'm looking forward to finding out

 

[Haley Smith]

Twins are interesting I personally would pin them as either a separation weakness or together weakness. Maybe both. Mary seems more dependent on her sister probably separating her from the punishment would her weakness. Louise is more independent so I would say having mary watch would be her weakness.

Or another way I see it is going full incset mod. Having them punish each other is their weakness. This would escalate as get backs for the last punishment until both of them reach a breaking point.

 

[Ragnarok6699]

are there console command to change AP value during office punishment at some point tried multiple combinations with Debbie but can not get all 3 meters pain,humiliation and pleasure full

 

[TheDevian]

are there console command to change AP value during office punishment at some point tried multiple combinations with Debbie but can not get all 3 meters pain,humiliation and pleasure full

It's probably the order, or you might be missing a step. It does give you hints at the beginning for what to do for each level. How many points do you need?

 

[f96zonetrooper]

are there console command to change AP value during office punishment at some point tried multiple combinations with Debbie but can not get all 3 meters pain,humiliation and pleasure full

It was discussed 1-2 pages before.

One issue that cause problem for some people was that they weren't waiting for the point of humilaition to be awarded for putting Debbie in the over the knee position. If you click an action straight away after changing the position then you won't get the point, wait for the dialogue to play out a little.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

are there console command to change AP value during office punishment at some point tried multiple combinations with Debbie but can not get all 3 meters pain,humiliation and pleasure full

It's probably the order, or you might be missing a step. It does give you hints at the beginning for what to do for each level. How many points do you need?

It was discussed 1-2 pages before.

Or you could use the Debbie WT that is linked in the OP that gives you a step by step guide on how to get this done!

 

[wamwamwam]

Hello, sorry for the stupid question, but how do I open console ? TY

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Hello, sorry for the stupid question, but how do I open console ? TY

Why do you need the console?
PS Use the search, top right while you are on the main page - search for unren

 

[Ragnarok6699]

Hello, sorry for the stupid question, but how do I open console ? TY

inside the game it's hold shift and press O so shift+O but before that you need to go into folder renpy/common find console RPY file open it i use (EMEditor to open) then ctrl+F search for "false" to find this line "
# If true, the console is enabled despite config.developer being False.
config.console = False" and change from = False to = True

 

[Haley Smith]

Unren will break your game if you hit 9 just warning you before you do it. However, triple click the red do not push button and you can edit all of the stats in there. To get to the red button just go to the campus click on replay and it's in the upper right. If you don't want to do that then I recommend RenpySaveEditor it's easier and you don't have to recode the entire game.

 

[pothb]

Is there a non cheat way to do it without the inclusion of the old pervert that wants my cute little angel girl?

 

[Josh Spicer]

Is there a non cheat way to do it without the inclusion of the old pervert that wants my cute little angel girl?

Don't give 'em the photos and hire a hooker through Trixie (Trixie isn't actually the hooker). If you didn't hire Trixie first than you are SOL until the Dev updates it in the next one to alleviate that loophole.