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PeacePeace

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Are you sure you didn't go for the very first H-scene? 500 HP cost in exchange for getting 300 HP and 5 Defense seems too good to pass up and nearly impossible to win without. Just curious.
If you check his save he had over 1,000,000 HP so it's safe to say he just cheated through to test for a new scene. I've also tried a few things to get a different ending, because it seems like there should be one, but so far nothing's worked. :unsure:

Unless the alternate ending is somehow locked to official copies of the game, I'm thinking it doesn't exist. Or it has some ridiculous requirement like getting max score, but there's no mention of something like that on the DLsite page.

Good job beating Hard, btw. I thought you'd have more trouble tbh, haha.
 

Petermurzin

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Hello, it's seems funny but after I had bought an equipment and went to my first dungeon I cant win any fight because I dont have an option to actually fight...All I can do is using my items or be defensive...It's the first time that happens to me...What can I do with that?
 

Incombat

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I like this type of game. This is way harder then Farea Dungeon though.

So far i'm stuck on screen with first ogre enemies(doing hard-mode). I figured out what to do with the 1st key - door to the first blood slime. After that strategy varies, but i'm just bit short on oneshotting spirit enemies,and don't have HP to take on Ogres.

What's the strategy early on,considering keys, your first shop buy? Do you take second H-Scene?(seems like a nice +8 attack boost against spirits).Do you clear enemies with less then 50 damage(rats,warrior gobs), or leave them for later?
Also,what the hell are fenced off goods with signs x2,x8,x16 for?
 
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Incombat

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Hi, have you seen my problem?Doesn't happened with you as well?Is there any solution?
You seem to mix it up with some different game, there are no classic style combat here. Check you threads(maybe you are playing Drain dungeon?)
 

grgrgr5

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Good job beating Hard, btw. I thought you'd have more trouble tbh, haha.
I somehow missed this reply, but thanks! Yeah by my early comments I can see why you'd assume I might not make it though hard mode so quickly. I at first didn't quite fully get the underlying logic in these puzzle rooms and the sacrifices that were necessary. I had trouble accepting that I'd have to use keys in ways that felt so wasteful and leave upgrades untouched until a time when the HP loss was justified and would provide that slim benefit necessary to proceed. But once it all clicked I made steady progress through until finally reaching the second level where the game is just a breeze by comparison to the first level. Writing this makes me want to take on hard mode again. I think I just might.
 

sonhot

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Hmm how exactly did you guys get through the 2 ogres without dying? Im playing on normal and they deal tons of damage. Some post above even suggest ignoring defense but if you do that the monster would tear you apart... Or maybe i just sucks lol.
 

grgrgr5

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Hmm how exactly did you guys get through the 2 ogres without dying? Im playing on normal and they deal tons of damage. Some post above even suggest ignoring defense but if you do that the monster would tear you apart... Or maybe i just sucks lol.
Do you mean the grey ogre things (2 in a row with 2 more blocking health and upgrades in the same area) or do you mean the red ogres (one blocking path to stairs with tree and the other a few rooms over blocking upgrades)?
 

sonhot

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Do you mean the grey ogre things (2 in a row with 2 more blocking health and upgrades in the same area) or do you mean the red ogres (one blocking path to stairs with tree and the other a few rooms over blocking upgrades)?
The 2 grey one blocking the path foward early in the game :LOL: i think i could beat them if i die a few times and restart to get bonus but i'm trying a no dead run if possible.
 

grgrgr5

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The 2 grey one blocking the path foward early in the game :LOL: i think i could beat them if i die a few times and restart to get bonus but i'm trying a no dead run if possible.
The bonus lets you just run through the rest of the game. It's basically god mode, you can't lose. So yeah you don't want that.

The 2 greys ones are definitely tricky. You definitely don't want to ignore defense though. That ignoring defense thing was probably part of a discussion involving hard mode, which is a completely different can of worms that requires some very specific maneuvering at times.

Here are some general tips that will help you overcome the grey guys...

Do the math so that you know what upgrades to go for first. If getting more attack means you take less damage in the next fight, go for it.. otherwise go for the defense first. Your goal should always be to take the least amount of damage while getting each upgrade that is worthwhile (pretty much anything that doesn't waste a key).

Go for the sex scene advantages (minus -500, -1000 life in exchange for bonus attack or defense) pretty much as soon as possible. Go for the first one as soon as you have the 500 HP and go for the second one by taking the LEFT path (the room with the grey ogres) and using 3 keys (don't use the iron key). You want that iron key for when it's time to take on the slimes (only when they do less than 50 damage each) on the right side and open the gate that leads to more keys. Then open the one on the left with the new iron key.

When you fight the grey ogres, you should do them in order... first the one on the bottom, blocking the upgrades, then the one on the right of the other 2, blocking the health and then the 2 in a row. You can come back later on for the one blocking the grey key.

Also, try to avoid fighting the birds in the area. Only fight the ones that you need to for now. Once you get them down to doing less than 300 damage to you, kill the ones blocking the 300 HP potions as you may need that extra little HP to take on the ogres.

Oh, and try to spend your money on attack (though situationally defense and keys may be better). Holding off on buying keys to get attack instead is usually a good bet, unless you really really need that key.
 
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sonhot

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Oh, and try to spend your money on attack (though situationally defense and keys may be better). Holding off on buying keys to get attack instead is usually a good bet, unless you really really need that key.
This game sure is a piece of work. There're just not enough reachable hp around to survive the double ogres fight so i've to purchase one key to get through some wood doors to a +300 hp ( i see no way around this) and barely got through with 20 hp left. Any tips left for the next area?
 
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grgrgr5

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Ah you did it, nice. Nothing wrong with purchasing a key when it's necessary, just more of a general rule to try and spend the money on attack when you can. It's also fine to have really low HP going into a new area. The puzzle is pretty much designed to work that way.

Let's see.. the new area.. it's even more complex than the previous..

Try to save your silver keys until you can use the two of them and one other key (iron I think, maybe brass) to open the alcove that contains the 3 silver keys, netting you one extra silver key (first room with enemies, the one with the tree). Once you've done that you can immediately use 2 of those keys to access other alcoves (only open the ones where the ONLY way to get into them is a silver key (bottom left room and top right room).. the third one can be used later on in the bottom right room.

You also want to use 6 brass keys in that first enemy room as well, to get the 2 iron keys and the yellow HP potion. You may need to buy a key for that if you can't find one without losing massive HP.

In the first room with all the upgrades hiding behind iron key doors, either path (defense or attack) is good. Personally I prefer going for the defense on the right. Unless you need the iron keys for something else (I don't think you do), open those rooms as soon as you get iron keys. Take the path to the north when it forks to go for the upgrades instead of the health. Once you have all the upgrades in that path, I would just go south (instead of starting a new side) and get the health and extra silver key for later.

In the upper left room, you'll need to use the sex scene tile to get the second silver key (after you get the first in the upgrade room) to accomplish my first tip.

Hmmm what else... ah, don't forget to go back to the previous areas and get anything you missed (other than things that use keys). You'll need the iron key from the grey ogre at some point, probably sooner than later. And make sure you've killed every enemy that does 0 dmg for the money. You'll be needing to buy more attack to counter the loss from going for defense (if you do) in the upgrade room.

Oh and that -6500 sex scene tile in the first enemy room... do it immediately the moment you find yourself with more than 6500 HP. It's a net gain and should be done as soon as possible (you'll probably have 6500 HP when you're about halfway through the area).
 
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grgrgr5

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I'm just popping back in to declare my undying love for this game. It is just one of the best puzzle games I've ever played and I can't get over how it seems to be the only one of it's kind.

If anyone ever finds a game with the same puzzle mechanics (I don't even care about the sexual stuff at all) please let me know. I wish I could take a pill and forget the puzzle solutions so that I could play this all over again for the first time. *sigh*
 
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I'm just popping back in to declare my undying love for this game. It is just one of the best puzzle games I've ever played and I can't get over how it seems to be the only one of it's kind.

If anyone ever finds a game with the same puzzle mechanics (I don't even care about the sexual stuff at all) please let me know. I wish I could take a pill and forget the puzzle solutions so that I could play this all over again for the first time. *sigh*
Isn't dungeon of lulu farea similar?
 
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grgrgr5

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Isn't dungeon of lulu farea similar?
I think I had heard that back when I first played this. I'm not sure why I never played it. I think I had some technical troubles. I just downloaded it and it seems to be working fine now. Some sort of Japanese localization issue or font issue or something last time. Thanks for reminding me of it!
 
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GranTurboAutismo

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Ah...it is kinda depressing to see a game you like have only 21 sales total on dlsite. All that effort wasted with no returns. There are just too many H-games so these small indie ones slip into obscurity while NTR cuck shit like Subverse gets millions of dollars.
 
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sonhot

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Ah...it is kinda depressing to see a game you like have only 21 sales total on dlsite. All that effort wasted with no returns. There are just too many H-games so these small indie ones slip into obscurity while NTR cuck shit like Subverse gets millions of dollars.
Well, can't be helped since most people resort to hentai not for puzzles but for "NTR cuck shit" since that is not something they could likely achieve irl :ROFLMAO:.
 
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MrNTR

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Ah...it is kinda depressing to see a game you like have only 21 sales total on dlsite. All that effort wasted with no returns. There are just too many H-games so these small indie ones slip into obscurity while NTR cuck shit like Subverse gets millions of dollars.
Damn, got me excited for nothing. Should had figured you wish-fulfillment fags were whining about absolutely nothing again. Even though the game is like 90% wish-fulfillment, just cuz there's a 10% chance of some avoidable rape it's somehow the end of the world.

Oh, and the reason why this failed hard is cuz 90% of porn is wish-fulfillment, you gotta do WAY more than this if you wanna stand out in the genre.
 
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@brynhildr
the dev's name is mangetsu hagure (not higure ^^). personally i wouldn't even translate his name, just use his jap. name as is.
a CG gallery from his previous game can be seen here:

mangetsu means "full moon" and, according to rikkaichan and my jed, hagure means something like "to stray away from".
E-Hentai site cant be reached, for me anyway.
 
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