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SonsOfLiberty

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Because I compressed a game that was posted on F95?

YOU do realize that it is the "compressed" version, eh? All I did was download something that someone else posted right???

It was posted YESTERDAY, and someone requested it to be compressed last night.

Next time, maybe you should put the vitriol/blame on whoever actually leaked it.
 
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xxerikxx

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Because I compressed a game that was posted on F95?

YOU do realize that it is the "compressed" version, eh? All I did was download something that someone else posted right???

It was posted YESTERDAY, and someone requested it to be compressed last night.

Next time, maybe you should put the vitriol/blame on whoever actually leaked it.
I do not see it among the LATEST UPDATE games and I do not see anyone posting or mention the 0.21 version in this thread before you posted the compressed version of the 0.21 version (A version we are still working on and have several bugs).
 

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so after 3 years off working on a project it gets released on a piracy website by one off your subscribers now the entire project is a waste?? :unsure:
blaming SonsOfLiberty is also kinda rude because i know he only does compress games (i mean maybe one off subscribers could've send it to him in a DM but then he still isn't the source off leak)

all in all i think you're overreacting really badly to this xxerikxx maybe take a breather and accept this minor inconvenience
Your subs won't all the sudden unsubscribe and people who want to and can still will as long you deliver a quality product
 
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SonsOfLiberty

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I do not see it among the LATEST UPDATE games and I do not see anyone posting or mention the 0.21 version in this thread before you posted the compressed version of the 0.21 version (A version we are still working on and have several bugs).
If you read my comments in the GCR thread you would have seen I was as confused as you were, but you jumped the gun without even reading that it said "compressed".

It didn't get promoted because v0.20 (which I also compressed) came out April 21st (going by my compressed date), which means today would still be at the 2-week threshold for a new promotion.

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5. Promotion
  1. One update per 2 weeks will be promoted.
  2. Bugfixes (major or minor) and other very minor updates are not eligible for promotion.
  3. Updates from basic versions to more 'premium' or 'high-tier' editions of the same game version are not eligible for promotion.
  4. Abusing the system will result in promotion penalties and thread ownership may be revoked.
If YOU want it promoted, you can tomorrow since it will make it past the 2-week threshold, you can use report and game update and put in the other box that this can be promoted now with whatever information you want, e.g. like you are the dev, blah, blah, and is a new update. But since you say you say it's still buggy then maybe you don't want it promoted...
 

xxerikxx

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so after 3 years off working on a project it gets released on a piracy website by one off your subscribers now the entire project is a waste?? :unsure:
blaming SonsOfLiberty is also kinda rude because i know he only does compress games (i mean maybe one off subscribers could've send it to him in a DM but then he still isn't the source off leak)

all in all i think you're overreacting really badly to this xxerikxx maybe take a breather and accept this minor inconvenience
Your subs won't all the sudden unsubscribe and people who want to and can still will as long you deliver a quality product
It's not about subs subscribing or unsubscribing. All I wanted to do was to create a quality game. Whenever a version full of bugs get leaked then we will get a lot of rapports about bugs that we will have to look into. This takes time. I'm not just talking about the rapports that will come in this week. I'm talking about the bugs people will rapport 1 year from now when they play the 0.32 version of the game based on a savegame that had bugs in the 0.21 version. We will have to spend endless hours of detective work trying to locate bugs that actually was fixed before the official release. The more corrupted versions of the game that exist the more bugs will be reported and the more time we will spend on searching for bugs. Whoever this idiot is who released this update probably caused us 100 extra hours of unpaid work and made sure that the game gets delayed if we even find the motivation to finish it.

You may think this is a minor inconvenience, but until you have released a few games of this size then I don't believe you know what you're talking about.
 
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xxerikxx

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If you read my comments in the GCR thread you would have seen I was as confused as you were, but you jumped the gun without even reading that it said "compressed".

It didn't get promoted because v0.20 (which I also compressed) came out April 21st (going by my compressed date), which means today would still be at the 2-week threshold for a new promotion.

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If YOU want it promoted, you can tomorrow since it will make it past the 2-week threshold, you can use report and game update and put in the other box that this can be promoted now with whatever information you want, e.g. like you are the dev, blah, blah, and is a new update. But since you say you say it's still buggy then maybe you don't want it promoted...
Of course I don't want it promoted, but the harm is probably already done. Now a lot of people have already downloaded the game. :(

I'm sorry that I went for your head, but seeing that the 0.21version was out on f95zone ruined my day and I took the frustration out on the first person who wrote anything about this version in the thread. I assumed that you had published both the full version and a compressed version.
 

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It's not about subs subscribing or unsubscribing. All I wanted to do was to create a quality game. Whenever a version full of bugs get leaked then we will get a lot of rapports about bugs that we will have to look into. This takes time. I'm not just talking about the rapports that will come in this week. I'm talking about the bugs people will rapport 1 year from now when they play the 0.32 version of the game based on a savegame that had bugs in the 0.21 version. We will have to spend endless hours of detective work trying to locate bugs that actually was fixed before the official release. The more corrupted versions of the game that exist the more bugs will be reported and the more time we will spend on searching for bugs. Whoever this idiot is who released this update probably caused us 100 extra hours of unpaid work and made sure that the game gets delayed if we even find the motivation to finish it.

You may think this is a minor inconvenience, but until you have released a few games of this size then I don't believe you know what you're talking about.
well you right that i myself am not dev for avn's and might not fully understand your perspective, i am however familiar whit coding, bug-fixing and the struggle of finding said bugs (which any programmer knows will be a perpetual problem ether due to your own code or other things like OS-updates etc)

alright the current version that got leaked might have a few bugs,but the next update should include the bug-fixes of those that are found.
so i honestly doubt 1 year from know you get your supposed scenario off "endless hours of detective work trying to find a bug due to corrupt version"
you will still have to spend your hours fixing the bug that are their and it being leaked doesn't make it worse or better for that fact

even if it does happen The f95 community help each other out in finding issue's and trying to fix them
some devs actually proactively play into that community sense and use their f95 thread to help find bug's and/or fixes even typo's and suggestions in some cases.

now maybe your intend for the HSI thread isn't like that and that is fine,but will not stand-by and watch you slander it like this is thread is nothing more then some obscure or bad press where you can spread some awareness in hopes off finding a few extra subs.

F95 is a piracy website , now i do not condone "leaking" before a official "free" release i also don't condemn it
this stuff happens ,has happend and will happen again (even if you decide that a "free" release is to much off a hassle and go subscriber only)
 
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well you right that i myself am not dev for avn's and might not fully understand your perspective, i am however familiar whit coding, bug-fixing and the struggle of finding said bugs (which any programmer knows will be a perpetual problem ether due to your own code or other things like OS-updates etc)

alright the current version that got leaked might have a few bugs,but the next update should include the bug-fixes of those that are found.
so i honestly doubt 1 year from know you get your supposed scenario off "endless hours of detective work trying to find a bug due to corrupt version"
you will still have to spend your hours fixing the bug that are their and it being leaked doesn't make it worse or better for that fact

even if it does happen The f95 community help each other out in finding issue's and trying to fix them
some devs actually proactively play into that community sense and use their f95 thread to help find bug's and/or fixes even typo's and suggestions in some cases.

now maybe your intend for the HSI thread isn't like that and that is fine,but will not stand-by and watch you slander it like this is thread is nothing more then some obscure or bad press where you can spread some awareness in hopes off finding a few extra subs.

F95 is a piracy website , now i do not condone "leaking" before a official "free" release i also don't condemn it
this stuff happens ,has happend and will happen again (even if you decide that a "free" release is to much off a hassle and go subscriber only)
When I talk about bug I'm not talking about typo's. The most common thing is that a player contact us and ask how do I find a scene or picture. We answer them what they need to do. Then they claim that they have done everything that we say they need to do, but still doesn't come to the scene or picture that we looking for. They have clearly ended up on a different path than what their answers in the game should have indicated. That's when the detective work begins and we need to find out if there's something wrong with the coding in the game or if they at some point have played a corrupted game where some of the coding was wrong or missing. The more versions of the games that is out there the more difficult that will be. And if the error isn't in the official version then it's a long and frustrating search for the bug before we can conclude that the error is just in his corrupted savegame and that he needs to play the game from the beginning to avoid the bug.

You are right. This things have happened before and it will happen again and that's why it feels so pointless to try to create a game. Idiots like this is killing developers motivation.
 

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When I talk about bug I'm not talking about typo's. The most common thing is that a player contact us and ask how do I find a scene or picture. We answer them what they need to do. Then they claim that they have done everything that we say they need to do, but still doesn't come to the scene or picture that we looking for. They have clearly ended up on a different path than what their answers in the game should have indicated. That's when the detective work begins and we need to find out if there's something wrong with the coding in the game or if they at some point have played a corrupted game where some of the coding was wrong or missing. The more versions of the games that is out there the more difficult that will be. And if the error isn't in the official version then it's a long and frustrating search for the bug before we can conclude that the error is just in his corrupted savegame and that he needs to play the game from the beginning to avoid the bug.

You are right. This things have happened before and it will happen again and that's why it feels so pointless to try to create a game. Idiots like this is killing developers motivation.
i 100% agree this kinda stuff is very frustrating because you're trying to fix a issue that is already fixed if they have the up to date game version ,my experience as a help desk employee surprised me how many people just didn't follow the proper instalment or setup process then call in to complain stuff isn't working(there is a reason many helpdesks have a check list for that kinda stuff like double check all cable's are connected properly )

im not trying to bash or demotivated you in anyway nether do most people who are in the thread
there are people who make mods the help whit pathing ,gallery unlocker as a 3rd party ,then their are simply people who frequent the thread who can answer questions and such
(surely some people may have found a bug and posted it on here just to make you aware and can possible fix it)
they do this to help others to be able to enjoy the avn (more) ,even it is a compress like SonsOfLiberty does (he is simply helping people whit lower bandwidth or disk storage easier access to your content)

even those who do not subscribe(like me) do not want you to fail or feel like shit,quite the opposite for most i'd say
but some people who will want to see you fail and get salty are out there ,best to ignore them IMO (and try to avoid public outbursts, that will only feed the haters & trolls)
the negatives shouldn't outshine the positives
i can't see into your overall numbers off supporters/subscribers but if you feel like the effort put in to create the avn isn't worth it, then stop ,it would be a shame to see THS go but no reason for you to suffer trough it for my and/or others enjoyment (best sleep a night or 2 on it)
 
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Made an incest patch. Superficially ran through the script without delving into the plot.
version: [0.19] will work with future versions. If you spot any lines or a scene with the new content that should be changed, let me know.
feature: Eng only. Changes all conversations/references about the biological father, makes mc the biological father.
pc install: Unzip it into the "game" folder.

notes:
I might have missed something, if you spot any lines with the old or new content that should be changed, let me know(preferably with a description of the scene and line text, a screenshot would also help).
This patch should be compatible with future versions(unless the dev changes the code).
There is a line in v. 21 where Jenny confirms with Angelina that the MC is Angelina's step-dad, not her biological father.
 
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MAGO-DAG

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And in the latest update Angelina stated in her thoughts that she sees the MC as her real father
Yeah, Everything leads to this because for Angelina only Mc is important, be it a father or a loved one. Moreover, this is their partial story... also previous updates Mc had a dream where he plays with little Angelina and he sees her as a real daughter))) it will be very interesting when her real father appears, and Mc will protect her from him even more, the main thing is that Dev keeps the game in an interesting direction and partly with a beautiful story
 
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Yeah, Everything leads to this because for Angelina only Mc is important, be it a father or a loved one. Moreover, this is their partial story... also previous updates Mc had a dream where he plays with little Angelina and he sees her as a real daughter))) it will be very interesting when her real father appears, and Mc will protect her from him even more, the main thing is that Dev keeps the game in an interesting direction and partly with a beautiful story
I don't see this happening " it will be very interesting when her real father appears, and Mc will protect her from him even more," he abandoned both Angelina and her mom so i don't see why would he come back 18 years later
 

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I don't see this happening " it will be very interesting when her real father appears, and Mc will protect her from him even more," he abandoned both Angelina and her mom so i don't see why would he come back 18 years later
Perhaps there are mysteries that we still don’t know for sure and these are connected between Angelina’s father and Violet... so he might want to take away what belongs to him (in his opinion) so Mc is rightfully obliged to fight for daughter he raised her )
 

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Perhaps there are mysteries that we still don’t know for sure and these are connected between Angelina’s father and Violet... so he might want to take away what belongs to him (in his opinion) so Mc is rightfully obliged to fight for daughter he raised her )
Sure there is a possibility but in that case i don't know why the MC who is supposedely a well connected actor with all that money did not make the effort to hire a private investigator to look for Angelina's biological father for the possibility that Angelina might want to meet him in the future , even though she said that she does not want to see him
 
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Made an incest patch. Superficially ran through the script without delving into the plot.
version: [0.19] will work with future versions. If you spot any lines or a scene with the new content that should be changed, let me know.
feature: Eng only. Changes all conversations/references about the biological father, makes mc the biological father.
pc install: Unzip it into the "game" folder.

notes:
I might have missed something, if you spot any lines with the old or new content that should be changed, let me know(preferably with a description of the scene and line text, a screenshot would also help).
This patch should be compatible with future versions(unless the dev changes the code).
Any chance to get the patch updated? I'm running v0.21 with v0.19 ipatch, and noticed lines about step-dad and "not my real dad" still in there. Thanks in advance! Really appreciate your work and time!

Edit: I see the discussions now, apparently there's going to be some appearance by the real father? Not sure how this fits in the story, but appreciate your time looking into it regardless.
 

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Any chance to get the patch updated? I'm running v0.21 with v0.19 ipatch, and noticed lines about step-dad and "not my real dad" still in there. Thanks in advance! Really appreciate your work and time!
you do realise that the actual dad is ganna show up further in the story right?
 

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I haven't played it for a long time, so, I started again but I have one question: who are the LIs or the girls/women MC will have some kind of sexual relationship?
 

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