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Yeah, there are lots of places where the dialogue doesn't match what's actually happened, particularly in the week-end scenes--MC thinks about Roe's room (which he hasn't seen), Marisa looks forward to a date with MC that's already happened, Anya thinks about how MC helped her in some way that hadn't happened yet. I'd hoped some of that would be cleaned up in the DC, but apparently not.
Yeah, disappointing it isn't fixed, but toxicity is fun so can't complain
 

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Welp, that took me almost a week to get through on Hard, and then to wrap up the whole 'Everyone' ending.

But that final frame? Perfect note to end on.
 
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Can I get more points if I wait longer?
According to the walkthrough, you get +15 Qi if you don't send her in Robin's 18:
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I'm wondering if that's a typo, though; I'd think you get the Qi from sending her, not from waiting. You'll have several more opportunities to send her, and will do so at the end of Robin's story 23 if you haven't before then. There's no risk of Selene sending her on like she does with Mina if you wait too long with her.

I sent her in Robin's 23d story, to let Robin have as much time with her as possible.
 
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According to the walkthrough, you get +15 Qi if you don't send her in Robin's 18:
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I'm wondering if that's a typo, though; I'd think you get the Qi from sending her, not from waiting. You'll have several more opportunities to send her, and will do so at the end of Robin's story 23 if you haven't before then. There's no risk of Selene sending her on like she does with Mina if you wait too long with her.

I sent her in Robin's 23d story, to let Robin have as much time with her as possible.
Yeah that's definitely a typo, because in the game it says +15 if you send her now. Good to know though, I didn't want to send her right now anyways
 

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I really liked Anita (and I'm honestly not sure why, in many ways she isn't my type)
I mean, really, this is a big part of it. During her story #11:
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That's the earliest in the story (if advancing the LIs evenly) any LI has said this. Lots of points from me for not beating around the bush. Robin and Kaitlin have just barely stopped themselves from saying it, and I'm not at least blaming them for not, but this is a big part, I think, of why I like Anita as much as I do.
 

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Something just clicked for me, and I don't know why it's taken it this long: shouldn't TID have an Incest tag?

Both in the Interim and in the "new" world (if you choose her ending), Marisa is Walt's daughter. That's MC's stepfather's (not father-in-law, as at least one piece of dialogue reads) daughter, or MC's stepsister. Right?

Of course, there's the Anya/Kaitlin and Selene/Natalie content as well...
 
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Something just clicked for me, and I don't know why it's taken it this long: shouldn't TID have an Incest tag?

Both in the Interim and in the "new" world (if you choose her ending), Marisa is Walt's daughter. That's MC's stepfather's (not father-in-law, as at least one piece of dialogue reads) daughter, or MC's stepsister. Right?

Of course, there's the Anya/Kaitlin and Selene/Natalie content as well...
No it shouldn't have an incest tag in my opinion. They didn't knew each other so not raised like siblings and they are not blood related. It isn't enough to call the incest maniac kink players lmao most of them would be disappointed because it is just a little thing in the whole spectrum of the game, and definitely not based and focus around that little thing. It would just mislead people imho.

About the Anya/Kaitlin and Selene/Natalie, I don't think they interact directly with each other, and yes I play always with lesbian options on. Maybe I'm wrong and don't really remember because last time I played the main story was 1 year ago.

Edit: Just checked the gallery entries on the (one for each) Anya/Kaitlin and Selene/Natalie during the main story, and yes there is a little groping from Kaitlin and Selene lol, but no kissing or something else. I would accept the incest tag just for those 2 little acts that seem more to tease the MC than acts of lust for each other, but I still would prefer that there isn't an incest tag, still don't think it is enough but acceptable if they ever decide to put the tag.

Just playing very slowly the harem ending, have little time to play in this time of the year lol and in the scenes I saw so far between Selene/Natalie there is nothing I can say it is incest.
 
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No it shouldn't have an incest tag in my opinion. They didn't knew each other and they are not blood related.
True that they didn't know each other, and they aren't blood-related, but they're still stepsiblings. That's certainly enough for the Big P. And according to the list (https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2024-11-14.10394/), here's the definition:
Incest [Sex act between family relatives, including those not related by blood.]
Family relatives, not related by blood? I think that applies.
About the Anya/Kaitlin and Selene/Natalie, I don't think they interact directly with each other
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Kaitlin holding Anya's bare breast in her hand seems at least borderline--I haven't recently played either event to see if there's something more direct.

It's not a big deal for me either way, and fair that it's likely to disappoint someone who specifically wants an incest game (like N&T--that MC and Carol aren't related by blood, but are definitely family members). But how far do we go with that? Should the anal sex tag be removed because there's only one of those scenes?

Or maybe the question is a bit broader--should the tags include only what's characteristic of the game as a whole, should they include everything that happens in the game, or something in between?
 
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True that they didn't know each other, and they aren't blood-related, but they're still stepsiblings. That's certainly enough for the Big P. And according to the list (https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2024-11-14.10394/), here's the definition:

Family relatives, not related by blood? I think that applies.

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Kaitlin holding Anya's bare breast in her hand seems at least borderline--I haven't recently played either event to see if there's something more direct.

It's not a big deal for me either way, and fair that it's likely to disappoint someone who specifically wants an incest game (like N&T--that MC and Carol aren't related by blood, but are definitely family members). But how far do we go with that? Should the anal sex tag be removed because there's only one of those scenes?

Or maybe the question is a bit broader--should the tags include only what's characteristic of the game as a whole, should they include everything that happens in the game, or something in between?
Yes I just edited my previous post, sorry, was checking the gallery entries very fast haha and didn't saw your following post. Sorry again, just dislike to double post. I'll post the edit here too:

Edit: Just checked the gallery entries on the (one for each) Anya/Kaitlin and Selene/Natalie during the main story, and yes there is a little groping from Kaitlin and Selene lol, but no kissing or something else. I would accept the incest tag just for those 2 little acts that seem more to tease the MC than acts of lust for each other, but I still would prefer that there isn't an incest tag, still don't think it is enough but acceptable if they ever decide to put the tag.

Yes but when they are not related by blood that definition should say at least that they knew each other and/or was raised like siblings. It is too far fetched to call that incest imo lol even by know each other, to "enlighten" the kink itself they should have been raised like siblings to have any effect, but what do I know lol I enjoy the kink as a fantasy mostly and if make sense in the story and it is in a very low place on my preferred kinks really.
 
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True that they didn't know each other, and they aren't blood-related, but they're still stepsiblings. That's certainly enough for the Big P. And according to the list (https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2024-11-14.10394/), here's the definition:

Family relatives, not related by blood? I think that applies.

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Kaitlin holding Anya's bare breast in her hand seems at least borderline--I haven't recently played either event to see if there's something more direct.

It's not a big deal for me either way, and fair that it's likely to disappoint someone who specifically wants an incest game (like N&T--that MC and Carol aren't related by blood, but are definitely family members). But how far do we go with that? Should the anal sex tag be removed because there's only one of those scenes?

Or maybe the question is a bit broader--should the tags include only what's characteristic of the game as a whole, should they include everything that happens in the game, or something in between?
Personally, I don't really worry/think about some tags too much.

There is so much variance across what is incest, for example, I don't see a point to the label most of the time.

There is, IMO, a huge difference between a biological mom having sex with her biological son whom she raised versus a guy and woman in their mid/late 20's meeting, falling in love and then, upon getting engaged, the woman discovers that the guy's stepfather is her bio dad.

In the second example, they were raised in different households with no knowledge of each other and they are both independent adults who find each other, fall in love and decide to marry.

In RL, there are some isolated societies that are so small that almost any intimate interaction occurs with a cousin of some sorts.

Another example is the pregnancy tag.

The vast majority of AVNs with this tag are for what amounts to epilogue moments (pregnancy at the end of the story) versus a woman/women getting pregnant early in the story and the story showing, via renders and animations, her body changes as the woman/women are having sex with the MC throughout the story, for example.

I also think F95's system for assigning tags does not allow for ways to distinguish between a little/moderate/and pervasive content described by those tags.

In the end, this is a site that offers free sampling of thousands of AVNs so, IMO, better to ask on the thread if there is a question than to trust that all the tags meet each visitor's personal definition for x amount of that tag in a given AVN.

These are just my thoughts on a subject that gets debated across many threads, with no position representing the 'right' position.

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even though i skipped more than half the game's text
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this is probably the best story i've ever read among the avn shit
ye, in some moments it's generic shit, in others it feels unfinished (endings, ofc, are not the strong side of devs), but the stories of Alison/Mira, Bud, the moments of farewell for some chars, the realization of the inevitable — it touched my soul
at one point, i even thought it would be nice to die with someone to see you off:HideThePain:
 
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I think this is the fewest number of tags ive ever seen in a completed game. Is everything tagged?
 

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WTF did i just sign up for? Been at it for a couple hours and Mina just told me if i "progress" too far with Mira that she'll become a remnant. Is this just a way of saying dont progress ONE girl too far at a time? Ive been doing them top to bottom evenly the whole time.

Edit: It became VERY obvious later (walkthough???) when i was about to cross the line with Mina.
 
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I'm glad I read some posts before writing this because I felt like I was the only fool that would ever get emotional over an AVN. This ain't even the first on that has touched me on a deep level but OMG I just got to the
Anya/Kaitlin farewell and NGL I started actually crying. I wish I wouldn't have gotten so far in their story yet. I already saw Mina's farewell a long time ago in the game and I guess she hadn't really been in the game long enough to form an emotional connection.
I had to save the game after the Anya/Kaitlin farewell though and shut the game down for a while. I know when I go back to playing it in a couple days that I'm going to stop doing the stories of my more favorite characters and work on the ones I don't feel as close to.
 
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Last guy got all emotional about how good the game is and i'm came here to bitch...oh well. I'm saddened by the Chira ending (wasn't bad). She was gorgeous (i love redheads) and she's gone! I mean based on the plot line i knew i was going to be saying goodbye to girls frequently...but to have one disappear before I got to have any fun with her sucks...it was also sad cause i wanted to save her god damn it.
 
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Can anyone tell me how to progress these stories correctly? everyone in the game is at a 5 but i just picked up sammy and allison. sammy is a 1 and allison is a 0...although i'm not sure i can even progress hers the same way...im thinking not. Do i catch sammy up and put her at the same number? or is it designed so that i just go from top to bottom the whole time?
 

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Can anyone tell me how to progress these stories correctly? everyone in the game is at a 5 but i just picked up sammy and allison. sammy is a 1 and allison is a 0...although i'm not sure i can even progress hers the same way...im thinking not. Do i catch sammy up and put her at the same number? or is it designed so that i just go from top to bottom the whole time?
If you want Allison/Mira time - Always go back to spend time with her when given the chance - this is main story line progression, and it is linear so missing something means the only way to fix the error is to go back to an earlier save and continue from there.

My recommendation is to use the WT so you avoid missing content, especially combo scenes.

If you are going for Hard mode (the only way to get the Harem ending) as the Qi points needed for the 'win' are unforgiving, the WT is all but required.

There is a lot of story to read And you are getting an AVN that is actually completed so enjoy!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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