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Misu7562

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Just wanna say this is an insanely good NTR game, actually I didn't know u could make these types of games with Koikatsu models. The scenes are hot and also the writing is decent. I've been playing for 12hrs straight lmao
 
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DR YOS

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Does anyone know if the game is nearing its end or is it continuing because I don't want to play it until it's completed?
 

Missmiles

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Not bad.

Didn't get me off (well, not everybody's on Maelion's level), but the Payback End gave me some catharsis and for that I will say it's not bad.

It surprised me a little to see Kendo keeping his word and not dumping Mary like a hot potato the minute his life went sideways because of her--and that she kept her word and stuck with him (I know it was mutual, but trust me, most 'tryst couples' in their position would dump all the blame on each other and cause even more chaos). It's even kind of realistic in that they didn't actually suffer that much.

I guess he was a halfway decent guy after all. As for Satoshi, I applaud him. Exposing the truth is never inherently wrong, and it's only when innocents are hurt that the question even comes up. I guess whatever poor underling Kendo had to fire to cut costs was innocent, but then again...I don't fucking care. I only regret he didn't...go a bit further; hitting Kendo in the business and wallet was good, but Mary didn't actually get hurt any more than any nasty rumor with ambiguous proof would hurt anybody.

And seriously? Wedding photo payback? Pfft. You deserve each other, have surgery to get joined at the hip for all I care.
 
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Would anyone want to see Satoshi kill himself I'm not asking becasue I hate him. Hell I'm one of his few defenders. I wanted him to do cause I want see the fallout. Mainly from kendo and mary obviously. But also hanako and natsuki like they all got pulled into kendo hype. It would be interesting to all coming crashing down and think is a life hedonistic pleasure really worth it. Plus we never see the fallout for that kinda thing mainly because the girl is that far gone or apparently the guy had no friends or family how'd ask why he killed himself.
 
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Samuraibear

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Not bad.

Didn't get me off (well, not everybody's on Maelion's level), but the Payback End gave me some catharsis and for that I will say it's not bad.

It surprised me a little to see Kendo keeping his word and not dumping Mary like a hot potato the minute his life went sideways because of her--and that she kept her word and stuck with him (I know it was mutual, but trust me, most 'tryst couples' in their position would dump all the blame on each other and cause even more chaos). It's even kind of realistic in that they didn't actually suffer that much.

I guess he was a halfway decent guy after all. As for Satoshi, I applaud him. Exposing the truth is never inherently wrong, and it's only when innocents are hurt that the question even comes up. I guess whatever poor underling Kendo had to fire to cut costs was innocent, but then again...I don't fucking care. I only regret he didn't...go a bit further; hitting Kendo in the business and wallet was good, but Mary didn't actually get hurt any more than any nasty rumor with ambiguous proof would hurt anybody.

And seriously? Wedding photo payback? Pfft. You deserve each other, have surgery to get joined at the hip for all I care.
I think she was basically disowned by her family what else would you want
 

Missmiles

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I think she was basically disowned by her family what else would you want
She didn't suffer. Yes her family disowned her, but I don't see how she was materially affected.

Kendo didn't dump her, so she basically didn't lose out on what she already had. Her core life of serving Kendo and living off his money went so well they married at the conclusion of the Payback End.

See? No real suffering. Whatever mental detriment she had from that was smoothed over real quick.
 

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Would anyone want to see Satoshi kill himself I'm not asking becasue I hate him. Hell I'm one of his few defenders. I wanted him to do cause I want see the fallout. Mainly from kendo and mary obviously. But also hanako and natsuki like they all got pulled into kendo hype. It would be interesting to all coming crashing down and think is a life hedonistic pleasure really worth it. Plus we never see the fallout for that kinda thing mainly because the girl is that far gone or apparently the guy had no friends or family how'd ask why he killed himself.
this will probably be more murder and manslaughter. or let's put it this way, these are the kind of stories
that will lead to a multiple murder with maybe a suicide case
 
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She didn't suffer. Yes her family disowned her, but I don't see how she was materially affected.

Kendo didn't dump her, so she basically didn't lose out on what she already had. Her core life of serving Kendo and living off his money went so well they married at the conclusion of the Payback End.

See? No real suffering. Whatever mental detriment she had from that was smoothed over real quick.
Mary heavily hints they are in a real bad financial situation prior to kendo planning that wedding and Kendo states he spent a good chunk of his savings for the wedding. Given his reckless lifestyle has cost him a lot in the past they will soon be in the red and likely in some debt or possibly lose their home either way their happiness will not last long.
 
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Missmiles

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Mary heavily hints they are in a real bad financial situation prior to kendo planning that wedding and Kendo states he spent a good chunk of his savings for the wedding. Given his reckless lifestyle has cost him a lot in the past they will soon be in the red and likely in some debt or possibly lose their home either way their happiness will not last long.
Nope, these are all implications (and from Mary, who has ample motivation to try and ensure Satoshi doesn't go after them even harder at that--unreliable narrator!), and as such can be categorized under 'wishful thinking'. What I wanted was concrete waterproof evidence.

Something like Satoshi running into Kendo and Mary at the welfare office to apply for aid after receiving that email would work. This does not.

See the difference?
 

ahoboman

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Ngl adding a new guy after all the build up with Uncle feels too counterproductive. I don't bother reading the story anymore when he got introduced.
Yup. I lost interest after that drug dude came in. Story feel lost. Characters do 180's flip from their characters. Feels so force, out of place and random. Immediately didn't care and lost all interest and skip thru the end.
 
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Nope, these are all implications (and from Mary, who has ample motivation to try and ensure Satoshi doesn't go after them even harder at that--unreliable narrator!), and as such can be categorized under 'wishful thinking'. What I wanted was concrete waterproof evidence.

Something like Satoshi running into Kendo and Mary at the welfare office to apply for aid after receiving that email would work. This does not.

See the difference?
Mary became pariah for her actions so she cant interact with the outside world and Satoshi's father made sure no business would want to associate with Kendo so they are basically living in hiding as the public wants nothing to do with either of them and would ridicule them on sight so Satoshi running into them would make no sense at all. Trust me this is the best your going to get for this game.
 

Missmiles

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Mary became pariah for her actions so she cant interact with the outside world and Satoshi's father made sure no business would want to associate with Kendo so they are basically living in hiding as the public wants nothing to do with either of them and would ridicule them on sight so Satoshi running into them would make no sense at all. Trust me this is the best your going to get for this game.
Clearly you've not seen how businesses can come back from the dead. The only way to get people to stop doing business with you is if they don't profit--Kendo may have far less options and far more slammed doors than before, but he didn't lose his ability to make a living. That much is clear.

I don't deny your last point about this being as good an ending as we'll get, I'm just...expressing some regret that Mary, as far as I can see, did not suffer. She has Kendo, and they're well off enough that they can get married and send an email about it. I assure you that 'romance' loses its charm VERY quickly once the paycheck stops coming in.
 

MilkyWay5

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Not a fan of the Arato ending so far, the whole "MC watches a video" trope is enticing for sure and it allows you to show both perspectives at once, but it should be used in moderation. Like if you think from mary and arato's side, why would they film everything? There's just no reason for it, it feels artificial. A mix of texts, calls ( with sounds) and several smaller videos and other small interactions from Satoshi's perspective would've been way more fun imo, and then maybe showing Mary's perspective afterwards, or layer it like with the scene where you watch it in parts like 9PM 10PM and so on, you know the one I'm talking about.

The content itself is still solid though, especially when Mary does her "evil" personality it's just delicious :love:
 
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