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Sadely I lost my save again, but this game is worth every replay.
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LMAO someone getting bamboozled again.
At this point, they are the joke
It's like admitting their shortcoming by being unable to comprehend
Btw, decide to stop playing right at the start of Chapter 4.
This time, I kept making backup save at interesting plot/important point, so I can get back to it anytime.
(which I didn't do it before in previous playthrough)
Currently, Slut Altina and Dom-Varia. Kinda like Slut Altina but Dom-Varia is somewhat creepy for me, had the same thought with Nalili regarding Dom-Varia.
Whilst waiting for the next update, wanna peek Sane Altina and Reshaped-Varia up to early chapter 4, also playing around with different choices too, time consuming but this is gonna be fun.
At this point, they are the joke
It's like admitting their shortcoming by being unable to comprehend
Btw, decide to stop playing right at the start of Chapter 4.
This time, I kept making backup save at interesting plot/important point, so I can get back to it anytime.
(which I didn't do it before in previous playthrough)
Currently, Slut Altina and Dom-Varia. Kinda like Slut Altina but Dom-Varia is somewhat creepy for me, had the same thought with Nalili regarding Dom-Varia.
Whilst waiting for the next update, wanna peek Sane Altina and Reshaped-Varia up to early chapter 4, also playing around with different choices too, time consuming but this is gonna be fun.
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She will remain that way more or less. Mostly 'less' if we compare the later interactions with what we've seen earlier.
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wish the wiki was better written in places, spent hours creating an investment and action plan then more hours following it just to get to find out i'm a few points off in one spot due to a very poorly worded line on the wiki. i'm too autistic to let that slide so i'm going to have to spend yet more hours rewriting my plan then yet more hours playing back through it.
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use this:
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thank you but im good at math and prefer charting it all out in a big long document (thats half the fun i have with the game)
i mean just the way people write isnt standardized on the wiki or anything so when im reading through the hidden stats page there are annoying bits
an example is :
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I feel you.
But personally enjoy going back and forth reading and noting stuff that will be my decision later during sessions.
another bit i've just found that is affecting my new budget plan is here on the yhilin battle guide wiki page
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you don't. the +1 social by ambassador evaluation is more valuable of everything you want achieve with that 20 DF
i cant reach the plus 1 social with my planned game state, i just wanted to see if i could reach 25 without it for more flexibility in discretionary funding while still being able to get the doom king statue. i AM going to get it because i can get to an evaluation of 4 with it but i wanted to explore my options.
i abandoned the idea after getting to the aka threshold and realizing i would have to spend ProN to get her to 100 before the battle. my budgeting is too tight for that i end the summit with 0 pron left as is.
this is alot cleaner in my notepad++ document its also not written in order of investment yet obviously deeds is last
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edit: i should also mention im already in the 20s for my social score so the 15 threshold is not a problem and the 40 shouldn't be too hard though i haven't plotted that far out yet
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also to make whoring out qum an actually economically viable option you would need to get 25 instead of 15 ProN to negate the need to borrow 25 from megail earning you back the 125 deficit. allowing you to get the estruin supplier and owning premium steel early but even then the ongoing consequences still make it an uncertain decision but not an outright terrible one as it is now since 15 gets you 2 extra Y and 1 extra S points best case scenario.
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to be clear there is very little room from improvment earlier in the game in regar the 'global consenus'. and what you need to point it's the synod, everything prior that event it's just a single big puzzle. if you don't have even start check the chapter 4 you are in the tutorial phase of optimizing. the big problem come from that point.
. whoring qum isn't a viable option, the money you gain from it is to little to change the result of the earlier round and after you start chapter 4 any difference is obliterated by the price gap between chapter 3 and 4.
. eustrin supplier it's actually a negative in your money. the return is so low, if you withold the money for that and use them in chapter 4 you have a net increase at the end of the line.
. borrowing from megail it's in the same boat, you cannot make any meangiful investment snowballing the money, the reduction in return the next couple round it's totally devestating.
. recucing ardford bank to 300 is even worse, mercenary flottilla is shit. it's just a little step over the scam line, you gain more in keep the pron and skip that investment
. take only one bank in chapter 2 it's like trow a nuke in your return for the rest of the game. you need, and when i say need i mean it, ardford and ivalan banks in chapter 2. yhilin bank return in the iterate event is so low to not be even comparable to ivalan, costing the same.
yes i said that
i dont get the eustrin supplier in my plans, that is a hypothetical extra purchase in a reality where qum whoring gets 25 instead of 15
this is just wrong, borrowing from megail means you do not get 150 Pron later but immediatly gain 25 pron so you only need to pay back 125 through investment returns
here are my round 1 investments
for clarity
iron cudgel is required so that you get a better result in the third arclent war
premium steel now is required for the best results in the battle of yhilin (possible to swap out for an early orc research but the side benefits of investing push me to do it now)
mine processing is obvious
megail's gift is also obvious
that leaves me with 0 pron left BUT if you take out the 25 from megail i can get
magic shop wich on its own would give 25 but gives 50 with the magic trade from megails rout instead, and getting magic shop increases the round 3 payout of magic trade from 50 to 125
so taking out 25 from megail leave you with a deficit of 125 but by the start of round 3 you have already earned 50+75 that you otherwise could not afford completely paying off the deficit and creating greater returns in the future as well as bringing 5 spare pron into round two wich pays for the yhilin supplier
mercenary flotilla gets you a -100 cost to ardford effectively making it only cost 150 so it pays itself back by cycle 3 of round 6
the non monetary bonuses it gives make a delay on break even worth it
my current plan leaves me with enough pron in round 5 to get all 3 round 5 exclusive investments
after those 3 i have minimum of 375 to use on other investments and possibly 415 depending on how my yhilin acceptance shakes out
i also never invest in yhilin bank not sure where thats coming from
if after i finish planning out the third war i find wiggle room i will go back and redo investments to maximize pron, but thats only if it would not compromise a perfect third arclent war
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whoring give you 15. nothing more. and for what? there is nothing whortwile to buy. if was 20 you can picl early premium steel, but without?
125K in the reunion return. not in the whole game, or even at the end of chapter 3. and ther isn't any legit way to reach that amount. even if they have the same investment chapter 4 and chapter 5 are totally different beasts, try to compare or worse compensate the number of the first 'three' rounds (chapter 1, megail route, reunion/ardford) with the number past that is a fool errand.
the best result in a event granting only local variables don't mean nothing.
you don't need the best army result in boy. start with 11 quality is enough to ace the event. and ace the event mean you don't need to use any DF in reparation and or restoration beacuse the free gain cover the little chaos/cd you are builded and with enoug victory points to reach 25 with a single double capaign. the enemy army size is even less relevant.
magic shop is like one the top three investment {with ardoheim magic trade} of the whole game, relegate it to a "and if i have a bit of money"... it's just... no.
iron cudgel first round cost 40K not 10K. the extra 30K are deducted during the reunion return. so you are already in the negative realm. repair the bridge earlier it's basically a bait and switch, you think is a cost cutting, in reality is result in more cost at the end line. and the end line isn't the reunion. don't take the bank first round it's even worse of taking a single bank in the reunion/ardford cycle. you aren't shoot in your foot, you are cutting your leg entirely.
keeping that money on hand and invest in at the end of chapter 3 will result in a fuckton more return.
you cannot thinking in "when the investment reach the even point" until you reach the end of chapter 3. and even that it's usualy a lot more complicated then that. you just cannot compare the number. in the first round you have 80K, reunion a milion and half end of chapter 3 it's 2 milion and half, and after that the investment system stabilize until you start chapter 5.
just to be clear, how many pron you gain in the reunion cycle and in the end of chapter 3 cycle.
and then you reach the synod and everything will blow up under your chair.
Like, you can have fun plotting your own route and figuring things out, but what fulminato is trying to warn you (and I second his opinion), is that this way you will be missing a lot of money due to overinvesting in stuff that won't scale as well going further in the game.
There are massive investment opportunities that come up at the end of the chapter 3 war and at the start of chapter 4 and you will want to be absolutely loaded to be able to get as many of the high profitability ones as soon as possible. There are also a number of pitfalls related to the availability of the investments (for instance, you cannot get neither the ardan bank nor the ivalan bank until late into chapter 4, that's around 5 rounds of returns you will miss on by choosing to skip either of them in chapter 2). Getting a slight discount on the ardan bank is not worth missing the opportunity to get the Ivalan bank as early as possible due to how long it takes to get another chance.
Not for nothing, but there are a lot of people that already went over routing the game over the years, if you are going to do your own thing from scratch without borrowing anything from them then you are simply not going to be able to do better, period. If you argue back you're gonna get people trying to educate you, and they will probably be right.
So you make 150,000(-50,000), don’t have to buy Esutrin manufacturer, 10,000 if you collect it, don’t need to buy a Supplier for Megail Route and don't have to buy Processor, so you have 160,000 to spend as you please
compare to normal optimised routes(aka Arms Dealer, Mine Processing, Yhilin bank, Megail Gift and magic shop) and 200,000, 10,000 you collect, 10,000 you collect(bank after Aka route), don’t have to buy Supplier or Processor, so have 25,000 removed to get manufacturer, so they have in the same route 195,000 to spend but automatically get the Manufacturer
so getting that is already 35k down in raw pron + needs to pay 25,000 for manufacturer and that is ignoring the 20K from Bridge and Iron Cudgel in Round 2 and also the 5k The optimised route gets from the bank to afford the magic shop
in Reunion would be get 450,000, 100,000, 200,000, 25,000, -30,000 and 50,000(assuming you get Ardoheim Magic Trade, which is 125,000), 200,000 and whatever other Eustrin Investment so basically a starting amount of 1,120,000
Optimal path( gets 450,000, 200,000, 100,000, 200,000, 25,000 and 50,000(same with magic trade), 300,000 plus other Eustrin Investments so a starting total of 1,500,000
so using Optimal path(aka the guide Thosha made) of getting Aram supplier and Eustrin Processor and Manufacturer and bounty office so Add 220,000 at most you could get an extra 30,000 and to even get close have To not get Embassy so impossible to get best result in Ardford but even most generous result is another loss of 380,000, if you get Embassy and the magic trade you only have 50,000 and only broke even on Bridge get the Supplier so you don’t gain any money from Bridge and now only have 45,000,
as a show of why the normal investment path is the way it is.
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Postgame Progress
Hello, everyone! I have been posting weekly updates on Patreon and SubscribeStar, but I thought I would jump in so those following the blog get a word from me as well.
The game builds at the beginning of the year were really rough on me, then I did the Kickstarter as a break and it ended up draining me even more. I have now taken a little time off (supporters got some fun comics and images) and I am back into work! I've already finished some chunks of the postgame (like the sex scenes) and made real progress on others.
So the plan is to have a mammoth of an update, but not right away. It will include the full postgame, which is me going all out trying to make a rewarding finale, as well as new battle busts, new scene art, a large number of fixed bugs, some new features and QoL additions, and more!
We are getting very close to the true conclusion of the game, which I still predict will be this year, but we're not quite there yet. You will hear from me here as we arrive!
Posted by Sierra Lee at 11:01 AM
Hello, everyone! I have been posting weekly updates on Patreon and SubscribeStar, but I thought I would jump in so those following the blog get a word from me as well.
The game builds at the beginning of the year were really rough on me, then I did the Kickstarter as a break and it ended up draining me even more. I have now taken a little time off (supporters got some fun comics and images) and I am back into work! I've already finished some chunks of the postgame (like the sex scenes) and made real progress on others.
So the plan is to have a mammoth of an update, but not right away. It will include the full postgame, which is me going all out trying to make a rewarding finale, as well as new battle busts, new scene art, a large number of fixed bugs, some new features and QoL additions, and more!
We are getting very close to the true conclusion of the game, which I still predict will be this year, but we're not quite there yet. You will hear from me here as we arrive!
Posted by Sierra Lee at 11:01 AM