Ren'Py The Legend of the Goblins [Ch. 4] [Mad_Rabbit_Works]

[Ramirad]

Milchoholiker
ssbarryerotica

The biggest flaw right now of this game is the character movement withing the renpy engine. The maps are hardly helpful.... That makes everything very much tedious and confusing.

Agreed, I am not knowledgeable enough to comment on Engines (renpy or whatever) but the map and navigation system is just not good, not attractive and needs a major rethink.

The devs should change how the movement is done completely and streamline maps
Add quicktravel to locations of interest. Check out how other renpy games work. Nobody wants or enjoys these maze like maps and the terrible navigation curerently in the game. It takes way too much time to create these many tedious maps.
Add one or two huntiung ground screens, where the mc can hunt and collect animal hides, add another screen or two for fruit collection, one with a small river for fish etc and make them all accessible via quicktravel. ...
Then please focus on story and characters and catch up with the content foremost. Stop wasting your time with huge confusing maps and a confusing navigation. Add quicktravel to locations of interest needed for the story or game mechanics and be done with it.

This seems to me wise advice - again not having any mastery of engines, the player side experience certainly this observation is correct and current approach probably needs change or you will kill off your own reboot from frustration.

Right now it's not enjoyable, because of the confusing maps and the terrible navigation and user interface.

While I might say it's sort of borderline enjoyable and the efforts since July/August have made the navigation and interface less problematic, it seems very very wise to take this orientation and think about the tweaking as the navigating around as is, not enjoyable, simply confusing and not particularly additive to the game. Which is a pity given the potential.

 

[Milchoholiker]

Milchoholiker
ssbarryerotica

The biggest flaw right now of this game is the character movement within the renpy engine. The maps are hardly helpful.
Renpy is best suited for visual novels.
This game still tries hard to be a rpg within the renpy engine. That makes everything very much tedious and confusing.

The devs should change how the movement is done completely and streamline maps
Add quicktravel to locations of interest. Check out how other renpy games work. Nobody wants or enjoys these maze like maps and the terrible navigation curerently in the game. It takes way too much time to create these many tedious maps.
Add one or two hunting ground screens, where the mc can hunt and collect animal hides, add another screen or two for fruit collection, one with a small river for fish etc and make them all accessible via quicktravel.

Then please focus on story and characters and catch up with the content foremost. Stop wasting your time with huge confusing maps and a confusing navigation. Add quicktravel to locations of interest needed for the story or game mechanics and be done with it.

You have to adapt to your new engine. You have to create a more story and event focused game now, instead of boring and tedious rpg elements, like hunting/collecting food in maze like maps within the wrong engine. I do like rpgs, don't get me wrong. But clearly not within the renpy engine. So adapt to your new engine and throw out unneccessary tedious stuff, which slows your development down.

Most players are here for story and sexual content anyway, not the hunting and farming game. You can still have some of it, but differently.
As a suggestion check out the abandoned game Stranded Dick f.e. It's a renpy game with survival elements. (The dev fucked up and abandoned it, because he suddenly added ntr /cucking elements to a supposed harem game, which wasn't appreciated by the community at all. The dev probably thought he could make a quick buck by adding ntr elements out of nowhere, but he just alienated the majority of his supporters.) Anyway don't let that bother you.
Stranded Dick also had flaws ofc, but you can still learn from this game how to do it better. Especially check this game out for how navigation was done and collecting resources. It was simple, not tedious, not confusing, unlike your game. Streamline your game much more, cut out the tedious and confusing large maps, make navigation user friendly (by one click quick travel). This might get your own game back on track again. Right now it's not enjoyable, because of the confusing maps and the terrible navigation and user interface.

So please cut out the bullshit and focus on adding sexual content and story back to the game!

Thank you for playing our game.

And I would also like to thank you for the good and constructive criticism. Unfortunately, not many people do that here. We will consider your suggestions for improvement. In any case, the movement system will be revised. I can promise you that now.

 

[Sam rozy]

I have played the rpg version of your game and it was pretty engaging and also the charecters design was pretty cool. But in the renpy version let's just say you are trying to live up to the old game and in the recent update is better than the previous chapter updates, no hard feelings but the charecter designs are getting worse especially for ennery. Ennery in the rpg version design was hot af but in this game ennery is more like young ginny weasly from harry potter and chamber of secrets basically she's looking too little to be hot. As a fan suggestion I am asking you guys to look into the charecter design of Ennery and all future female players. Good luck on your next update people.

 

[Sam rozy]

Again its not that I don't like the renpy version, the recent update was pretty good but could be better if Ennery's appearance could be similar to her design in the rpg game.

 

[ssbarryerotica]

Calling this Chapter 4 is insane. More like Page 4.

If you are a member of our Discord, we had already stated in one of our announcement posts that this chapter would be a bit shorter due to unforseen reasons, but a longer one could be expected with Chapter 5.

Considering that we have suffered the constant departure of memebers from our team, there is only so much a single person handling multiple aspects of a project can do. And yet not abandoning it in any way, as many others tend to do.

 

[ssbarryerotica]

Is this scene not complete or is something broken on my end? View attachment 4216859 First BJ scene with Ennrey

Due to a lack of playtesters, this issue seemed to have slipped under my radar. It is not an issue at your end, which is somewhat good because otherwise I would have to figure out what really went wrong.

But thankfully, the issue is just some missing files. So, you can expected a fixed / patched build to be reuploaded fairly soon. Someone else also reported an issue regarding the combat with the pigs, which needs to be addressed still. So, we will likely re-publish after both of those issues are resolved.

 

[ssbarryerotica]

I'm confused on the changelog. I have been avoiding downloading the game in the new engine, until it transferred all the old content into the new engine, and straightened out most of the initial kinks from changing engines.

What does a "chapter" mean? How much of the content has been transferred, and has anything new been added?

Nothing really is being "transferred", but is rather being reworked, which takes time. Although the characters, story, and everything else remains predominantly the same, things are occuring differently. And with character designs having been updated, the CGs are being created from scratch / redone too.

At this point, "chapter" is merely meant to indicate progress, however big or small it may be, at least until we manage to catch up to where we left off in the previous version.

 

[ssbarryerotica]

Again its not that I don't like the renpy version, the recent update was pretty good but could be better if Ennery's appearance could be similar to her design in the rpg game.

Thank you for your constructive criticism and feedback. Ennrey's appearance was upgraded so that she would look more attractive than previously, while also updating her base 3D model. Despite that, I did my best to maintain resemblance to her original appearance, so I'm not sure what is wrong with her.

Below are their portraits for comparison. I definitely see the new Ennrey as an upgrade. As for the other female characters, namely De'Allen and Lady Elliston, despite the fact that I had created them (albiet at a time when I had far less character creation experience), the previous versions were very unattractive. Moreover, prior to actually utilizing their updated versions, we had conducted a poll and a vast majority gave were in favor of the updated ones.

 

[Milchoholiker]

Hello Dev, why they don't take the mom? just the daughter?

Thank you for playing our game and don't worry, the mother will sit next to her daughter, I can promise you that. But you will have to be patient until that happens because other ladies will come first.

I have played the rpg version of your game and it was pretty engaging and also the charecters design was pretty cool. But in the renpy version let's just say you are trying to live up to the old game and in the recent update is better than the previous chapter updates, no hard feelings but the charecter designs are getting worse especially for ennery. Ennery in the rpg version design was hot af but in this game ennery is more like young ginny weasly from harry potter and chamber of secrets basically she's looking too little to be hot. As a fan suggestion I am asking you guys to look into the charecter design of Ennery and all future female players. Good luck on your next update people.

Thank you for playing our game and for liking the characters. Regarding the new Ennrey, I personally think the new one is very good too. And regarding the size, no worries. We try to cover as many tastes as possible over the course of the game. Lady Elliston (the knight) is one of the next on the list and will definitely impress you in terms of size.

 

[RebelDrake8758]

Thank you for playing our game and don't worry, the mother will sit next to her daughter, I can promise you that. But you will have to be patient until that happens because other ladies will come first.





Thank you for playing our game and for liking the characters. Regarding the new Ennrey, I personally think the new one is very good too. And regarding the size, no worries. We try to cover as many tastes as possible over the course of the game. Lady Elliston (the knight) is one of the next on the list and will definitely impress you in terms of size.

Any idea when chapter 5 would be released

 

[Milchoholiker]

No

 

[ssbarryerotica]

Any idea when chapter 5 would be released

We were and are hoping for this month, but only just got around to setting up the basics of the turning system, while several other codes are being modifed to improve and simply them. So, lets see how it goes.

 

[RebelDrake8758]

We were and are hoping for this month, but only just got around to setting up the basics of the turning system, while several other codes are being modifed to improve and simply them. So, lets see how it goes.

Till which chapter do we get content with Elliston

 

[LordSha]

hi anyone got a walkthrough for this game?

im kinda stuck ever since i finish the mage quest.

 

[zedascove]

I've tried the new version for the first time.

The animations are better but the navigation/exploration is atrocious.

If you're gonna add Dungeon Crawler exploration atleast add a proper automap.