VN Ren'Py The Libido Enigma [Ch.7] [broiler_x]

[ArunPrime]

Yeah, I get it totally. I am going to re-write some parts and address the issues. Re-writing Brooke is going to take some time and likely some new renders. There are big impacts on the plot for Chapter 3 that I'm trying to figure out. I have several ideas, just need to figure out what works best. I will likely make the Brooke scene optional as well, but I hope with the changes that you and others will like her so much that you will check out the sex scene because it is really good (well, at least for a novice like me). I will also change Isabella's dialogue to remove any mention of previous hook-ups (aka "booty call"). I do want to leave in the part where she talks about her previous failed relationships and that she is now single and available as that's important to establish. I really like her rare show of vulnerability and it also sends a clear signal to the MC that she is looking for Mr. Right but is worried she will never find him. Would that be acceptable to you and others?

This might take a couple of weeks, but I will be releasing a chapter 2.5 here with the changes to Brooke and Isabella.

Thanks for your input!

Thanks for considering to rewrite
Hopefully some good story and we can see whole new version of the characters.
Of course some new animated scenes as well

I don't know if anyone is still reading this thread, but I just made a huge breakthrough in figuring out how to handle Brooke. It was really tricky to figure this out, but I feel very good about this solution and I think you all will find this more palatable than any of the ideas I or others have thrown around. Not only do I think you won't be offended in the slightest, I think it will make you like Brooke even more. I hated the non-sexual escort route, there were way too many issues and everything seemed very implausible.

I don't want to post the solution here as I'd like to make it a surprise. However, I would like to bounce it off one or more of my most vocal critics and see what you think, to make sure I haven't opened up another can of worms. Send me a private message if you are willing to critique my idea. I will not provide any spoilers past what I plan to do for Chapter 2.

Thanks!

As for brooke,
The problem is she's a escort and the real reason is she said she will sex for money that's why people want to avoid her story otherwise We Don't See Any Problems In Her Route.
You don't change the all art work for her.
Just the sceneries like "why she's here" some good story or leave it in the mystery for now we will find in later versions.

Of course, not everyone like all characters some people complain their looks and body but some people likes them.
can't satisfy all of them right.

My point is that you have to add a choice. Let the players choose it.
Considering her character and her personality we can decide if she's want her or not.

Thank you for listening to my ramblings for so long

We will see in the next release good luck

 

[broiler_x]

Thanks for considering to rewrite
Hopefully some good story and we can see whole new version of the characters.
Of course some new animated scenes as well


As for brooke,
The problem is she's a escort and the real reason is she said she will sex for money that's why people want to avoid her story otherwise We Don't See Any Problems In Her Route.
You don't change the all art work for her.
Just the sceneries like "why she's here" some good story or leave it in the mystery for now we will find in later versions.

Of course, not everyone like all characters some people complain their looks and body but some people likes them.
can't satisfy all of them right.

My point is that you have to add a choice. Let the players choose it.
Considering her character and her personality we can decide if she's want her or not.

Thank you for listening to my ramblings for so long

We will see in the next release good luck

Trust me, you will fucking love the new Brooke. I presented her new story line to the biggest haters (I asked for them specifically) and they all loved my solution. And so do I. Stay tuned, but please give me some time. These are major changes which will take some time to get right.

Thanks for your input.

 

[Raziel_8]

Yes, I think everyone will love the new changes. The new Brooke is amazing (and the biggest haters of Brooke that I've shared the new changes now fucking love the new Brooke! And she is still consistent with what we knew before. That was the hardest part for me, and the small tweaks for Isabella should assuage the people that didn't like her previous relationships). Wait for chapter 2.5... I'm working my ass off to make this palatable for everyone.

Good to see that you are in high spirits
Curious what you will do with Brooke.

 

[TKdropemoff]

Trust me, you will fucking love the new Brooke. I presented her new story line to the biggest haters (I asked for them specifically) and they all loved my solution. And so do I. Stay tuned, but please give me some time. These are major changes which will take some time to get right.

Thanks for your input.

for being a new dev, you handled this better than most btw..
so I applaud you once again, and can't wait to see the new changes.

 

[broiler_x]

for being a new dev, you handled this better than most btw..
so I applaud you once again, and can't wait to see the new changes.

Thanks so much! The last thing I want is a flame war, they never end well. So I always try and take the high road, even if it is very hard to do so sometimes! The changes are coming along quicker than I expected as I've already re-written the script and I'm starting to make some new renders. 2.5 could be done next week. I'm not sure if they have a minimum time between updates here. On itch.io you can't have a new update for two weeks after your previous update.

 

[DA22]

Thanks so much! The last thing I want is a flame war, they never end well. So I always try and take the high road, even if it is very hard to do so sometimes! The changes are coming along quicker than I expected as I've already re-written the script and I'm starting to make some new renders. 2.5 could be done next week. I'm not sure if they have a minimum time between updates here. On itch.io you can't have a new update for two weeks after your previous update.

Officially it is two weeks between updates here to get a notification on the latest updates page. If warn a mod though it should be possible to get that notification anyway a few days later when two weeks up, even if the update was earlier.

 

[Rockero_69]

Trust me, you will fucking love the new Brooke. I presented her new story line to the biggest haters (I asked for them specifically) and they all loved my solution. And so do I. Stay tuned, but please give me some time. These are major changes which will take some time to get right.



Thanks for your input.

I didn't play the game first, so I don't know if it's better or not with the changes, however I plan to give it a chance, but for this I need to know if there will be a Harem ending? Since the designed Lis look good so far, I would hate to have to choose just one

 

[MixQQ]

Yes, I think everyone will love the new changes. The new Brooke is amazing (and the biggest haters of Brooke that I've shared the new changes now fucking love the new Brooke!

 

[Vortex@]

I didn't play the game first, so I don't know if it's better or not with the changes, however I plan to give it a chance, but for this I need to know if there will be a Harem ending? Since the designed Lis look good so far, I would hate to have to choose just one

Same here, hate playing any where we can only choose one. So far he says it's not harem. Hopefully we can at least be with them all till near the end before choosing, if we are forced to choose 1

 

[broiler_x]

Same here, hate playing any where we can only choose one. So far he says it's not harem. Hopefully we can at least be with them all till near the end before choosing, if we are forced to choose 1

Guys I'm sorry, I can't specifically comment on that as I don't want to give away the ending. And to be completely honest, I do know how the biotech drug storyline concludes, but I have not fully decided all the possibilities for how the relationships turn out. I know some of the outcomes, but there could be more. The story does evolve as a write it and come up with ideas that grab a hold of me. As I've said before, Brooke didn't even exist in the original full story outline, and she was a late addition as I was finishing up Chapter 1. And now she is an integral part of the story.

The new version of Chapter 2 is complete. I will probably release it on Tuesday next week. I need to wait for 2 weeks from the last update in order for it to be listed as a new update.

 

[shamtiiomi]

i will say this with my hand on my heart ,the only way i will chose brooke in the actual state is ...if iam a pimp[no shame if u are]or you dont have any rpoblems with sharing content and if is only about money so mc can take her out from thatlife,no problem with that either no need to change so much the script,as for me nah she is wasted since this become a battle of kinks,so no content for me even if the dev change the script 180 degrees,im one of those who i like when devs rewpork stuff and i keep that ,sure i dont like to wait for that but sometimmes reworks are nice, in this case well if isnt an harem game my choice is to the street ,and if u change the script i will only avoid her if is possible,but is is an harem or semi harem game and u dont change the sxcript and goes for the "savior route" i will totally take her in a secondary round,right now the 3 who are LI 's that we know [4 with brooke] one is a little liberal for my tastes ,no that the past doesnt matter [sorry guys but past matter the most believe ot or not,and im not talking about body count here also with who]the second one seems nice and kind of normal girl,and the other well she is a beauty and i think she is also a hadfull so i dont know yet,difficult to choice with this choices,if i go for thetype of women i like i will go with milfy she is just georgeous,but the goth girl or metal girl is a nice type too so......those are mine thougth's

 

[Vortex@]

Brookes story is completely changed, and Isabella's lines are tweaked so she doesn't sound so promiscuous

 

[broiler_x]

I'm very happy that people are attached and protective of these amazing women. I am too. Come back on Tuesday and replay the new Chapter 2. I will post within a spoiler tag where the changes are located. It will not be a spoiler for those that played the old Chapter 2, only a spoiler for the new audience that never played before.

You can never accuse me of not listening to feedback. I've learned a lot from all of you, thanks.

 

[Rockero_69]

Guys I'm sorry, I can't specifically comment on that as I don't want to give away the ending. And to be completely honest, I do know how the biotech drug storyline concludes, but I have not fully decided all the possibilities for how the relationships turn out. I know some of the outcomes, but there could be more. The story does evolve as a write it and come up with ideas that grab a hold of me. As I've said before, Brooke didn't even exist in the original full story outline, and she was a late addition as I was finishing up Chapter 1. And now she is an integral part of the story.

The new version of Chapter 2 is complete. I will probably release it on Tuesday next week. I need to wait for 2 weeks from the last update in order for it to be listed as a new update.

We don't want to know how it will end, the only thing we want to know is if there will be a Harem ending, that is, stay with all the girls, yes or no?

 

[broiler_x]

The new version of Chapter Two is out. Chapter 2.5 is currently only available for download from my game's

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I will be putting in a request here on F95 to have the new version available for download. That could take a few hours, so if you want to see it right away go to the itch link above.

If you've already played the previous version of Chapter 2, I've got the change details in the spoiler below. This is not a spoiler if you've already played the original version of Chapter 2. If nothing else, there is one new player choice you should make in the hotel room with Brooke, because this affects two variables...

Spoiler: Not a spoiler if you previously played Ch 2. Spoiler only for new players

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[Deleted member 2103832]

Like I said earlier, I get it now. And expect an updated Chapter 2 in a couple of weeks. I just got back from a lunch walk and had a few ideas...

I think you are going a bit far in calling Isabella a cum dump who has serviced thousands of NPC's. She mentioned that she had a couple of guys who were booty call (she said "couple" and she has proven to be quite honest and forthcoming). To use that to call her a cum dump of a whore is really going far. She's 38ish and never been married so things can happen. But I do acknowledge that my mistake was having her admit it at all in the first place. That will be fixed. Isabella has actually shown some pretty strong character with her advice about Emily and also in dealing with MC after they witness the cheating GF incident.

Speaking of Miranda, the cheating gf, I have yet to comment about her. She was definitely a plot device and I tried to make her not too pretty or too endearing so that the player wouldn't get too attached to her. That's also why that all unfolded fairly early.Here's what I was thinking if you are interested. MC, Isabella and Giselle are all in their 30's, but I wanted them all to be single for obvious reasons. I decided to give the MC a girlfriend because I thought it would strange if they all just happened to single at that age (not impossible but a bit too convenient). I also really liked the idea that Isabella witness the events because it would bring her and MC much closer together. I also saw this as a great opportunity to introduce Giselle as a mysterious character, and she would also have this tough shared experience. I purposefully put all three 30-somethings in that scene. Remember, Isabella was already very openly wary about what she thought about Miranda and she was right. MC made a mistake in dating Miranda. I think we've all made mistakes in relationships and I really liked this as a coming together moment. Again I tried to make Miranda very forgettable and brief to minimize. Now the last reason I included her is what I'll probably get ripped for: I needed a sex scene in Chapter 1. I needed the audience to know that this was truly going to be an adult game. Remember that I did make that sex scene optional for this very reason. I did not want the MC to have sex with any of the LI's because I wanted some build up for Chapter 2. That was extremely important to me. So I included an optional throw-away sex scene, just for the main reason of identifying this as adult. Without that scene my game technically wouldn't have even qualified for F95 based on their rules. Games must have true adult content, a little nudity isn't enough by their written rules.

The hug in the alley between Isabella and the MC was the goal. And their later talk in her office. Isabella has been lamenting for years that she didn't pursue a real relationship with the MC 10 years ago. But the timing and their various relationships never worked out. This harsh shared event gave her the big opening she was hoping for. Does that make sense?

I'm enjoying the game a lot so far. One question though. The GF cheats right away and it seems a few days pass and the MC hasn't confronted her about it. That's strange, no man with a real pair of balls would have slipped out the back door.

 

[broiler_x]

Now, just think of getting a hug from Emily before you reply...

Much better.

 

[broiler_x]

I'm enjoying the game a lot so far. One question though. The GF cheats right away and it seems a few days pass and the MC hasn't confronted her about it. That's strange, no man with a real pair of balls would have slipped out the back door.

It's addressed a little later in a meeting between Isabella and the MC which is specified as the very next day. He confronted her when she got home and kicked her out immediately. I thought about a direct confrontation in the bar (in fact, that was in the original script), but I thought Isabella would stop him to avoid a public scene to protect the company and his reputation.

 

[Deleted member 2103832]

It's addressed a little later in a meeting between Isabella and the MC which is specified as the very next day. He confronted her when she got home and kicked her out immediately. I thought about a direct confrontation in the bar (in fact, that was in the original script), but I thought Isabella would stop him to avoid a public scene to protect the company and his reputation.

Thank you for the info. Must have missed it, and that makes perfect sense. Can't let a tramp cause your money to be put in jeopardy. Keep up the good work dev.

 

[MixQQ]

imo good changes dev, people should be happy now