VN Ren'Py The Nature of Magic [Ch.1] [Slate Interactive]

[el_kabong]

The confession about the crush should have been at the beginning and not at the end of the chapter.

See I disagree with this, I think it's better as-is. Having your closest friend/crush that vanished for several years pop back up would certainly be pretty overwhelming, especially including the surprise engagement and the fact that her grandfather and aunt were listening to that conversation. It completely makes sense why the confession conversation was later and in private. Could it have been earlier in the week? Possibly, but for purposes of this story I don't really think it matter much

I also disagree with characterizing Cerys as a lesbian as she's very clearly bi, otherwise most of her interaction with the MC makes no sense. That said while she is my favorite of the cast so far, preferences are preferences so hopefully someone else clicks with you in later chapters.

 

[D4rkK1ng]

Very good start , it was very good and enjoyable so far.
Visuals are great and soundtrack quite good.
The story is also very good and i liked the world so far (Magic ,moderntechnology ,Elves, post-war future)

MC is very good and quite talented although he is weaker than the Main LI it seems he will catch up quickly,
The Main Li is beautiful and interesting and also most of the rest of LIs are also beautiful and unique
The main Li Cerys is the best friend of MC and they both had crush on each other in the college and now they are engaged,
near the end of the chapter they have confessed their feelings (although in my opinion perhaps it would have been better if they have that talk sooner).

So we have the MC and Main LI engaged and in love with each other from the start but because of the situation of the world of the VN they are few male mages (only 2 young male are known) the harem is pushed very strongly and the family of LI and the LI pushes for Harem although she said that MC can decide if he want to add other LI to their marriage/family

Unfortunately the Main Li is writen (In my opinion) clearly as bi......and the harem she pushes for its not traditionally harem basically its more like open wedding marriage situation and she clearly wants to have fun with other LIs...for example some dialogues with MC near the end about how she wants to lick the abs of Aerion(other LI) and how she wants to enjoy her with MC had me bothered.

Albeit dev wrote that lesbian content is optional and we can also play monogamus path if we want or choose which LI can be added to Harem if any (none LI except the main LI is forced according dev and most of the fetishes are gonna be avoidable and the lesbian content is clearly stated that gonna be avoidable)..

So if we take take for example the monogamus path / non lesbian we will have to say no all the time.
and again it will be somewhat akward because its clearly that the main LI wants to have "some fun" with the other LIs....

Personally i will play the harem path but with non lesbian content and so far i have decided for anwen/cerys/Aine and perhaps Leala and Orlaith.
Nonethelss as long that lesbian content is avoidable i will continue play the game because its one of the best new VN you can play and it clearly has the potential to become an exceptional good VN.
5/5 stars for the begining.

 

[hitman2511]

So much crybabys here.

 

[thrainz]

What does it have to do with crybabies if someone expresses their opinion or feelings about how they perceived it? Everyone perceives it differently.

 

[BTungsteno]

Is understandable why people have opinions/feelings about the Main LI:
MC is supposed to be this 4-5 years veteran of killing criminals/Being a merc-vigilante but get easily rekt by Main Li.
But at the same time i like that after hearing people in-game praising Main Li as THE BEST magic user of their generation, Her reputation isn't fake, she actually has a commanding/leader air, focus, smarts and abilities to live to that title. (Small critique here, MC seems to be during those years, more of stealth/ambushing type than a "1v1 duel me!" one, so facing Her face to face was to his disanvantage)

While Her bi tendencies may raise concern, i think the Dev. made Cerys like that to spice future 3/4+ somes with others LI's and instead of each harem scene being a "supermarket line" with Each LI waiting for their turn to come while the MC make the one He's currently fking orgasm.
My only hopes is that This dev. doesn't make MC a third wheel during those times, instead of the main attraction, like others devs did.

 

[D4rkK1ng]

Is understandable why people have opinions/feelings about the Main LI:
MC is supposed to be this 4-5 years veteran of killing criminals/Being a merc-vigilante but get easily rekt by Main Li.
But at the same time i like that after hearing people in-game praising Main Li as THE BEST magic user of their generation, Her reputation isn't fake, she actually has a commanding/leader air, focus, smarts and abilities to live to that title. (Small critique here, MC seems to be during those years, more of stealth/ambushing type than a "1v1 duel me!" one, so facing Her face to face was to his disanvantage)

While Her bi tendencies may raise concern, i think the Dev. made Cerys like that to spice future 3/4+ somes with others LI's and instead of each harem scene being a "supermarket line" with Each LI waiting for their turn to come while the MC make the one He's currently fking orgasm.
My only hopes is that This dev. doesn't make MC a third wheel during those times, instead of the main attraction, like others devs did.

I agree with you,
MC is behind in professional training and in traditional magic theory of that world and at the same time the Main LI is also the young female superstar of the magic world....so its not absurd that the Main LI is stronger .. and we must not forget that the Main is also 2 years older.
Although MC discovered the nature of magic and he seems to be extremely talented and so i believe he will combine the old theory with his new unique understanding of magic and he gonna catch up quickly ... at least i hope so thats the case
though dev said that the Lesbian content will be optional/avoidable .. so im curious how the harem will work and how the main Li will react ...
Every side LI is optional and the lesbian content is also optional so perhaps there will be some LIs who can be added without the need of lesbian content and they can be some threesomes without any lesbian content.. and some lis will be bi and the threesomes or foursomes will require lesbian content...personally i will try to add harem members without lesbian content and if there any LI which got to like and the lesbian content is good and its only when the MC is also there then perhaps i will allow it in the harem but if i saw any third wheel situation (Main LI fool around without MC for example its a big no from me)
i will remove the LI from harem, but thats my personal preference in the matter.

 

[Juerhullycin]

So much crybabys here.

yeah without people like you this threat would be paradise on earth

 

[Juerhullycin]

MC seems to be during those years, more of stealth/ambushing type than a "1v1 duel me!" one, so facing Her face to face was to his disanvantage)

not only that all we here about is how bad ass MCs Demon persona is but we don't see it. All we see is him getting shoved around. Its like they tell him that so he doesnt feel bad about himself. It seems patronising.

 

[el_kabong]

What does it have to do with crybabies if someone expresses their opinion or feelings about how they perceived it? Everyone perceives it differently.

This is true, though I also understand the complaint as well as it comes up in most harem game discussions any time an MC shows weakness at all, or anything more than minimal initiative or personality from the LIs.

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Having said all that, the "crybabies' description is rather more harsh than deserved but it's not really about this game, it's just the latest installment in the arguments between those that insist on the most narrow definition of harem (MC/F only, basically no interaction between any of the LIs, MC must be in control of everything at all times and should never be even slightly shown to ever have a weakness) and those of us that also enjoy something other than just a strict harem power fantasy, not that those aren't also fun sometimes.

The larger problem is that this discussion ends up choking out productive discussion regarding the VN, instead everyone focuses on parts of a couple scenes that don't necessarily reflect on the VN as a whole, the Cerys sparring seems to be the focus of that for this VN.

 

[sisco1986]

and here we go, the first retarded post is already in

now the dev is just a woman that doesn't know how to write male characters and the main LI is the real main character, holy shit i swear some people here just want to play the same shitty game with terminator as the mc over and over again

 

[Juerhullycin]

some people here just want to play the same shitty game with terminator as the mc over and over again

which games are you talking about?

 

[spsp24]

Just finished chapter 1 and have to say: this one is straight shooting up on my top 5 of best HS games!
(if you are wondering the other are, in no particular order: Eternum, Ripples, Between Humanity and The Inn.
Yes, OIALT is knocked out of the top 5 here......)

Regarding the game, I like that it straight up TELLS you you will get a harem, so no worries about which LI path to pick etc.
(Yeah I know, got serious issues with FOMO )
Cerys is an almost-too-good-to-be true Waifu, this is not a complaint......

Regarding the powers of the MC, I actually think he is a bit OP. Picks up new skill a bit too easy.
I would have no problems if his learning curve would follow a slightly shallower path.
(And I agree with Cerys, he looks waaaaayyy better with the stubble, than with the smooth shaven babyface
)

 

[Giggling Raven]

This is true, though I also understand the complaint as well as it comes up in most harem game discussions any time an MC shows weakness at all, or anything more than minimal initiative or personality from the LIs.

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Having said all that, the "crybabies' description is rather more harsh than deserved but it's not really about this game, it's just the latest installment in the arguments between those that insist on the most narrow definition of harem (MC/F only, basically no interaction between any of the LIs, MC must be in control of everything at all times and should never be even slightly shown to ever have a weakness) and those of us that also enjoy something other than just a strict harem power fantasy, not that those aren't also fun sometimes.

The larger problem is that this discussion ends up choking out productive discussion regarding the VN, instead everyone focuses on parts of a couple scenes that don't necessarily reflect on the VN as a whole, the Cerys sparring seems to be the focus of that for this VN.

I feel like the criticism of MC being shoved around by Cerys is valid to an extent since like mentioned by others, he was indeed painted as a badass mercenary. It's was quite a feat for him to build that reputation up while knowing only 3 basic spells, so I expected more versatility in how he made use of them instead of just trying to brute force through the duel, kinda. I did expect him to lose to her during the duel since he's never had anywhere near formal education in magic while she probably started hers since she was able to cast her first spell, but it did end pretty anti-climatically with MC looking like a dumbass by the end.

When it comes to the pranks, I think you're totally right and he's indeed purposedly letting her do it since he feels guilty of how he ran away and cut all contact with her before, but I sure hope he gets a little bit of playful revenge in the future.

That's not to say I don't like the game, much the contrary, I ended up loving it despite the duel not being to my liking. I'm eagerly awaiting the next few updates not only because the story is genuinely really interesting, but it also teased a lot of girl on girl action that I find very hot.

 

[el_kabong]

I feel like the criticism of MC being shoved around by Cerys is valid to an extent since like mentioned by others, he was indeed painted as a badass mercenary. It's was quite a feat for him to build that reputation up while knowing only 3 basic spells, so I expected more versatility in how he made use of them instead of just trying to brute force through the duel, kinda. I did expect him to lose to her during the duel since he's never had anywhere near formal education in magic while she probably started hers since she was able to cast her first spell, but it did end pretty anti-climatically with MC looking like a dumbass by the end.

When it comes to the pranks, I think you're totally right and he's indeed purposedly letting her do it since he feels guilty of how he ran away and cut all contact with her before, but I sure hope he gets a little bit of playful revenge in the future.

That's not to say I don't like the game, much the contrary, I ended up loving it despite the duel not being to my liking. I'm eagerly awaiting the next few updates not only because the story is genuinely really interesting, but it also teased a lot of girl on girl action that I find very hot.

I understand your point regarding the duel. It didn't bother me given that it makes sense in universe, and was basically stacked against the MC as much as possible (straight 1v1, no stealth, no actual injury allowed). That said, the game is hinting pretty strongly that the MC will develop his skills far faster than expected, so a rematch with a different outcome may be much sooner than Cerys expects.

I'm definitely looking forward to future chapters. I really liked the build up between MC and Cerys, both their banter and the more physical aspect of their relationship. The other LIs are all interesting, and there is potential for a lot of content with all of them (M/F, lesbian, group scenes? sounds great, bring it on!).

 

[Juerhullycin]

I understand your point regarding the duel. It didn't bother me given that it makes sense in universe, and was basically stacked against the MC as much as possible (straight 1v1, no stealth, no actual injury allowed). That said, the game is hinting pretty strongly that the MC will develop his skills far faster than expected, so a rematch with a different outcome may be much sooner than Cerys expects.

I'm definitely looking forward to future chapters. I really liked the build up between MC and Cerys, both their banter and the more physical aspect of their relationship. The other LIs are all interesting, and there is potential for a lot of content with all of them (M/F, lesbian, group scenes? sounds great, bring it on!).

I said it before and i say it again, if necessary. For it to be banter it needs to be reciprocated, banter is an exchange of pranks and teasing and thats clearly not what happens.

 

[Raziel_8]

Hm, interesting game...but really brought down by Cerys, well for me at last.

I thought we get a chance if or who we want to marry, because Cerys is the last LI i would want, well, maybe together with Bael.
Overall just dislike Cerys, her personality and constant 'pranks' (yeah, sorry i don't find it funny at all), that she seems more interested in the other girls than the MC, which is quite off putting imo and yeah i'm not into lesbian content at all.
Tried a second run, this time completely turning down Cerys at every choice...what saddly changes almost nothing, well i also hate forced LI's...

As for the others, i didn't find most of them interesting or really likeable...
The only LI's i find really good so far are, Aine and Anwen, maybe Orlaith.

Also the MC looks really way worse without beard....

 

[Juerhullycin]

Hm, interesting game...but really brought down by Cerys, well for me at last.

I thought we get a chance if or who we want to marry, because Cerys is the last LI i would want, well, maybe together with Bael.
Overall just dislike Cerys, her personality and constant 'pranks' (yeah, sorry i don't find it funny at all), that she seems more interested in the other girls than the MC, which is quite off putting imo and yeah i'm not into lesbian content at all.
Tried a second run, this time completely turning down Cerys at every choice...what saddly changes almost nothing, well i also hate forced LI's...

As for the others, i didn't find most of them interesting or really likeable...
The only LI's i find really good so far are, Aine and Anwen, maybe Orlaith.

Also the MC looks really way worse without beard....

well Cerys is my favourite of the bunch by far, that's also why the inconsistency in the writing around their relationship are bugging me the most.

 

[Sennistrasz]

Is there a character that doesn't start with the letter C? Should I restart the game to name my character to start with C for the sake of consistency?

 

[e6mill]

Is there a character that doesn't start with the letter C? Should I restart the game to name my character to start with C for the sake of consistency?

You mean your name's not Bruce?

 

[Towik]

I have been naming male protos Thad for few years now... and if lastname / surname is available i go with Chadinski... I find that combination hilarious...