GibboBtw
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This game is a banger. Really happy to have found it. Anybody who's been following this for longer know what the dev times are like? Like how often can we expect a new episode drop?
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Not really, it's about a change in the direction of writing, it's about not enjoying cuck talk, talk detailing sexual experiences with other men as dirty talk, that's a part of cuckolding, a particular fetish. Some people like it, some don't.its the "pure pure harem" fans, you know the guys that want that vn where all LI are virgins ,super loyal, there can't be any other men or they have be old men,impotent or creepy losers ,MC is the only chad etc.
when ever that debate about a LI not being a virgin starts i always remember a scene from a vn(can't remember which one) where some fat nerd ,starts "preaching" the harem bible to the MC whom only progressively more annoyed,only to later find out it was the dev getting back at someone doing that here on the forum
And the change in writing is to do with how Aine talks about how staying together forever with the same partner is the most important thing in the world and then the writing for her changes during the scene and does a total 180 and becomes all about her experiences with men and how much she loves their cum dripping out of her. Just jarring and incongruous with her previous dialogue and portrayal.
I personally can't imagine anything more gross than someone I liked with old men, thanks for that image...
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OWSam000
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I think the old men he said actually mean old guys like over 60, or even 80 like you can smell the aging odor.
Great game. Love it. Keep it up. Good luck for the future.
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yeah no this all still fits into the "pure pure harem"
people have a issue with what is being said not when
aside from general statements about what Aine likes referring to the male form/body there is only one line that can be interpreted about not being about Aine or the MC.
now this line IMO is clearly meant to stroke the Players ego,as she's only touched it slightly and its already her favourite.
the thing is "favorite"(typo i only just noticed
) implies she has at least has some seen image off a penis before,what and how is never said.it can still be porn,a dildo,something she has seen as hear time as a healer , or a other relationship.
what it is is still 100% player interpretation.
even though before the scene it has been mentioned she tried dating combining everything she said about how she want her relationship etc. from the entire VN i'd say its fair to at least assume she was virgin and the farthest she "might've" gone is foreplay(handjob/blowjob) stuff,and even that i don't think she's really done herself.
my best example is about how and what all pure pure harem people would like to see change:
the change is very much about eliminating any and everything that can be interpreted as not being the MC,from what "she wants in a man" to "everything is about you"
even though the scene naturally flows to that conclusion,the changes made ensure that "there was never any other option besides me"
ill try to put my original statement more bluntly
the difference between a harem fan(having a harem) and the sub-faction underneath that the" pure pure harem" fan boils down to two things:
Virginity and (mainly)Competition(other viable men being present/available to choose from for LI)
for a most people(not just for a harem) competition is normal ,it simply means you have to work for the LI and proof yourself.
in the "pure pure harem" mindset that isn't something you have to do,because the MC is super cool/powerful aka the one and more importantly ONLY mega CHAD.
all other men are"old men,impotent or creepy losers"making the MC the obvious choice,no work or effort required but 100% security that she will(should) choose you.
The virginity bit ties into the competition part,aside from the biological instincts off 100% assurance that a child is yours
women in general are more prone to emotional attachments and having to require them before getting physically intimate with a man.
So a girl not being a Virgin can imply she had a emotional connection with a other man,leading to possible comparisons between the current and previous,AKA competition.
the biological reason can be easily solved with modern tech,DNA tests & contraceptives. in this VN's case doubly so with magic applications
so in the end its actually just one reason why its important for this VN,the absence off competition.
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The trouble with what you've just said is half of it is just wrong... it's just your own judgement about how you believe other people feel about things and your personal opinion on what motivates that. It's just conjecture, and therefore pointless.yeah no this all still fits into the "pure pure harem"
people have a issue with what is being said not when
aside from general statements about what Aine likes referring to the male form/body there is only one line that can be interpreted about not being about Aine or the MC.
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now this line IMO is clearly meant to stroke the Players ego,as she's only touched it slightly and its already her favourite.
the thing is "favorite"(typo i only just noticed
it can still be porn,a dildo,something she has seen as hear time as a healer , or a other relationship.
what it is is still 100% player interpretation.
even though before the scene it has been mentioned she tried dating combining everything she said about how she want her relationship etc. from the entire VN i'd say its fair to at least assume she was virgin and the farthest she "might've" gone is foreplay(handjob/blowjob) stuff,and even that i don't think she's really done herself.
my best example is about how and what all pure pure harem people would like to see change:
the change is very much about eliminating any and everything that can be interpreted as not being the MC,from what "she wants in a man" to "everything is about you"
even though the scene naturally flows to that conclusion,the changes made ensure that "there was never any other option besides me"
ill try to put my original statement more bluntly
the difference between a harem fan(having a harem) and the sub-faction underneath that the" pure pure harem" fan boils down to two things:
Virginity and (mainly)Competition(other viable men being present/available to choose from for LI)
for a most people(not just for a harem) competition is normal ,it simply means you have to work for the LI and proof yourself.
in the "pure pure harem" mindset that isn't something you have to do,because the MC is super cool/powerful aka the one and more importantly ONLY mega CHAD.
all other men are"old men,impotent or creepy losers"making the MC the obvious choice,no work or effort required but 100% security that she will(should) choose you.
The virginity bit ties into the competition part,aside from the biological instincts off 100% assurance that a child is yours
women in general are more prone to emotional attachments and having to require them before getting physically intimate with a man.
So a girl not being a Virgin can imply she had a emotional connection with a other man,leading to possible comparisons between the current and previous,AKA competition.
the biological reason can be easily solved with modern tech,DNA tests & contraceptives. in this VN's case doubly so with magic applications
so in the end its actually just one reason why its important for this VN,the absence off competition.
You may well have your own feelings and opinions about the script but that doesn't mean you automatically know what other people feel or why. I'm confused as to why you'd presume to know.
And you've said only one of the lines can be about someone other than the MC... when she describes how much she loves having past partners cum inside her and loves playing with their balls I mean, however many lines it is, it's more than one line and it's quite a bit of extra sexual info about other men to be telling someone while getting ready to have sex with them.
The point is that's an offputting image I didn't need and I'd be turned off by that, or rather I was turned off by it. The rewrite is important for more reasons than anything to do with whatever mega chad mentality you're talking about. It's about making it an intimate moment between two people and not going into cuck talk, which is talking about having sex with other men. Fine if that's wanted, like I said, some men love it, that's totally fine, no judgement at all, but I don't and it came out of nowhere with no warning of cuck talk imminent, hope you like hearing about the balls I've licked clean...
That was definitely the disturbing image that came to mind yeah... not sure why I needed that but hey, some like it gross it seems.I think the old men he said actually mean old guys like over 60, or even 80 like you can smell the aging odor.
HiHaHo
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when i'm wrong, you'll have to be a bit more specific about what's wrong and preferable provide a few arguments as to why,especially when you say its a conjecture.
you want me to provide tangible proof of a other persons feelings/opinions? so my own isn't pointless for you? where is your proof to validate yours? you could after all be lying..
im confused as to why you are confused why i assumed how other people feel and/or think about it.
i mean... not like i quoted someone.....or that multiple people have written posts with their opinions & perspectives.
is it because i had to use empathy to get a answer as to why? or do you disagree with the conclusion i came to?
i was ranting about people complaining about what was being said.
some have said they are ok with Aine "having a past" yet when its mentioned they have a problem with it.
and the answer to it is to change everything she said to something that removes all possibility/mention to "having a past".
i can understand the people that have a issue with the when.
but not the "im ok with aine having past but change all dialogue to her not having a past"
also if cuck talk is a big turnoff for you i hope you never come to realisation that all porn is cucking,you're basicly watching two other people having sex.
cuck porn is watching someone who watches others have sex.
i guess for VN's its about watching someone else his/her fantasy's in animation/render form. in the lewd scene's its still not you having sex,but other animated people having sex.
lastly i have this conjecture that shit tastes bad ,based on that it looks and smells bad,now i am just going assume it actually tastes bad.
but perhaps i am wrong,as you said you "It's just conjecture, and therefore pointless." if you're willing to stand by that and eat some shit,let me know after if you still think a conjecture is pointless.
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Now I had said my piece and stayed out of it. But I gotta swerve in right quick on this bit. Y'all two can continue on with everything else, have fun. But this? Nah we gotta nip this one. Knowing someone has a past, being fine with said past, and wanting to hear about things from said past. Are not the same things. Wanting that particular dialogue changed. Because let's not sit here and pretend it was just some casual mention. Nor will it "change all dialogue to her not having a past." It doesn't magically erase whatever her canonical past is. But there's a reason why people said TMI.
Some folks just don't want to know certain details. Especially in that way. Simple.
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I think context also matters. There is nothing wrong with her talking about her love of "Penis Worship". (Maybe does not need to explicitly mention partners as this is inferred by her knowing what she enjoys)
But in an intimate setting you should really focus on your partner. (At least I think so)
Telling them what you like about them. What you want to do to them. What you want them to do to you.
The porn logic that comparative compliments are super hot goes amiss (to me).
"Your is so much bigger/better than..." "X never gave me an orgasm" ...
As to compare you have to have both in mind.
But in an intimate setting you should really focus on your partner. (At least I think so)
Telling them what you like about them. What you want to do to them. What you want them to do to you.
The porn logic that comparative compliments are super hot goes amiss (to me).
"Your is so much bigger/better than..." "X never gave me an orgasm" ...
As to compare you have to have both in mind.
This is now getting obsessive quite funny really.
An older woman who maybe was a teenage crush when you first met her tells you exactly what she needs and likes from sex.
Next time you have sex she only talks about you its just amazing for both of you as you already know what she needs and likes.
The way she tells you makes you remember, as long as she doesn't talk about previous lovers constantly what's the harm.
You already know she has a past with her age and experience unless you are totally delusional.
This makes you sad what is wrong with you and why do women even talk to you ?
An older woman who maybe was a teenage crush when you first met her tells you exactly what she needs and likes from sex.
Next time you have sex she only talks about you its just amazing for both of you as you already know what she needs and likes.
The way she tells you makes you remember, as long as she doesn't talk about previous lovers constantly what's the harm.
You already know she has a past with her age and experience unless you are totally delusional.
This makes you sad what is wrong with you and why do women even talk to you ?
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I agree that the Aine sex talk argument needed to stop. This is going no where until Dev had a patch fix or make some change/no change in next update.
However, the argument did show some players fetish.
However, the argument did show some players fetish.
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Let's discuss whether it will be possible to destroy families.
Juerhullycin
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And this here, people is why you can't have productive discussions with retards.
if you identify yourself with the dude in a porn flick, you should shut down all your electronics, all of them, even the fridge and go outside and touch grass, the shrubbery, some trees, maybe go pet a dog or a cat, go to a petting zoo and make an appointment with a therapist.
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so everyone that uses immersion with VN's?
or are we conveniently excluding that?
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Then stop responding to it! I'm not trying to take aim specifically at you, but in general. It's weird how people complain the convo keeps going. But keep reinserting themselves with responses. That allow the convo to keep going. It's like complaining about a fire while throwing more kindling on it. The next time this starts to come up. Ignore it! Don't enable it.I agree that the Aine sex talk argument needed to stop. This is going no where until Dev had a patch fix or make some change/no change in next update.
However, the argument did show some players fetish.
Switch the conversation up by asking questions like. Who is best girl? Why is it Aerion? And why are all of you wrong if you disagree with this
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FYI: Public Release with full Info
Links are up on Itch:
For Discord folks: remember that all discussion should go in #spoilers-public for the first 30 days and that no spoiler tags are necessary there. If posting about it anywhere else, like #feedback-and-suggestions or #bugs-typos, remember to use the tags during that 30 day window
Numbers:
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Numbers:
- A little over 36000 words
- ~1450 renders
- 27 videos (six base animations with expression and view alternates)
Other stuff:
- Updated the early game exposition to spread it out a little and pepper in some more banter and time with the characters
- Updated the animations in "Hey", Cerys's first QT scene
- Added some options to help with readability:
- Slider for adjusting the size of the text outlines
- Slider for adjusting the dialogue box's opacity/transparency
- Basic colorblind-friendly toggle (white text for game menu and character names, black background in game menu)
- Added ability to cycle through outfits used for the image displayed in the character detail menu for romanced love interests
- Added option to always show pronunciation text
- Note that the code for this involved replacing a lot of the old name variables, so most of the dialogue from the previous updates will be marked as 'unread'
- Introduction of 'mini scenes'
- These are shorter scenes of intimacy with the ladies, meant to develop the intimate relationships without bogging down the pacing. They do not have animations