VN Ren'Py The Nature of Magic [Part 3] [Slate Interactive]

[Dactess]

It unfortunately goes astray with so many insults and words being completely misread, but that's not really the issue, mentioning having a past relationship is fine, talking about having your past partners cum drip out of you is not fine, for me. That's a graphic image, that I don't want.

And yeah, a break up option at the very moment she starts up that talk would be great and feel very cathartic I agree.

That is fair, and me being snarky probably doesn't help. I guess I just glossed over it or just saw it as dirty talk. I mean I didn't like how Cerys confesses her feeling and then literally the next day starts talking about wanting to fuck others (girls sure but still) like that kind of makes it feel like monogamy with her wont work off the bat. But at least her her you can say you don't want her to talk like that during sex.

Guess I thought she Aine was just talking about the feeling with MC and not about other guys. So yeah, talking about other guys during sex is a turn off.

Just proves the best character is Mean Fry... too bad you cant marry her. Maybe Leala (shes seemed more upfront despite MCs mistrust) lol I feel the rest of the girls might be too interested in each other for my taste and I don't feel like MC being made a boytoy for a yuri harem.

 

[Dactess]

Softcocks & Snowflakes! Why do you keep going on with this bullshit? This is not our world! This is not our society! Stop trying to force these people to fit your pathetic reality & enjoy the damn story! If you don't like it, then don't read it!

Thank you again for the ignore list! It is just a shame people keep responding to them.

I thought it was just a discussion about the love interests. I don't think I saw anyone hating on the game itself. You are right though, Aine is fifty and will outlive MC, so no doubt her and other elves will approach things differently when it comes to romance. And even the MC points out how different the situation with the families is for him and "normal ppl"

But I quite enjoy the game, I will talk about the love interests and how I might feel about them (whether i like or dislike them) however that doesn't change the fact I like the game as a whole. Idk if I came off like I disliked it but wanted to clear it up.

I do think some ppl take it too far but just discussing likes and dislikes isn't a bad thing.

 

[OWSam000]

How ironic is that for those who called people 'Softcocks & Snowflakes' are the real 'sensitive' and 'toxic' people when they saw and heard their 'favourite' character being disliked by other, their words and action just show who they really are and strictly insult other fans who also like the game as a whole despite some issues.

I won't even want to join the discord cause there might be full of these people in it.

Another topic I would want to discuss about is the MC power, is his power really unique than others even they had learnt it?

 

[slick97]

I looked and on her name there is a simple true/false flag for slapping her ass at the pool and touching her ears dont know if they are prereguisites for her romance the others are more vague the dev did something with the way values are descipted in the last update probably also the reason the walkthrough mod maker wasnt happy.

You need 7 or more affection points with Aine for the romance option to even appear in the first place. There aren't any other pre-requisite flags, though you will inevitably trigger some just to get the minimum points needed.

For anyone wanting to disable Aine's romance without having to load an old save then you can do so by enabling the console (you just need an .rpy file that sets config.console = True). Setting aine_values.romance = False will disable all lewd scenes with Aine.


To address the several pages of Aine discussion (I've already done this and even offered a patch to ensure no one will "accidentally" trigger her romance flag) I'll say this: you're more welcome to voice your own opinions, but that doesn't mean the developer needs to agree with it. As I've mentioned before it seems to be a rather vocal minority that has an issue with Aine's dialogue during her sex scenes whereas as the 100+ Patreon members haven't mentioned it once. I know some will continue to disagree with that sentiment but it doesn't change the reality that they're still part of that vocal minority.

I encourage everyone here to implement either of the options I've mentioned/provided rather than clogging this thread up with even further discourse. If you're unable to do that then perhaps this game isn't for you.

 

[hitman2511]

 

[pitao]

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Someone pin this to the OP lmao. Well it isn't like everyone that want to "cry" about this topic will read the OP anyway but at least some will be warned. If is not your cup of tea, move on and find your cup of tea. The core of this fictional story and characters won't change like the dev mention in that discord reply.

Edit: I didn't read yet what feedback made them give that reply but seems that those views labeling women as "disgusting" or "gross" just because they "behave" like most men in our reality (and how I know, I'm a Portuguese Latin dude/guy/man lol I see it everyday) and are more forward and assertive of what they want and think and say (most our societies are patriarchal and some to the extreme) are what is "disgusting" and "gross" to me.

 

[OWSam000]

Yeah, the Aine trash talk is finally done. Of course, nothing wrong at all, just Dev originally intention, it really open my eye by his reply on the issue.

 

[GibboBtw]

Someone pin this to the OP lmao. Well it isn't like everyone that want to "cry" about this topic will read the OP anyway but at least some will be warned. If is not your cup of tea, move on and find your cup of tea. The core of this fictional story and characters won't change like the dev mention in that discord reply.

Edit: I didn't read yet what feedback made them give that reply but seems that those views labeling women as "disgusting" or "gross" just because they "behave" like most men in our reality (and how I know, I'm a Portuguese Latin dude/guy/man lol I see it everyday) and are more forward and assertive of what they want and think (most our societies are patriarchal and some to the extreme) are what is "disgusting" and "gross" to me.

It was a wall of text from some guy, where skimming through it. His main complaints seem to be that Aine comes across like a "high class prostitute/mega slut" that's really quite "gross". (lmao)...And acts like a whore, that has no interest in Rane outside of his cock. Cerys is the same but milder, and the sex talk makes them both feel "gross" and like "the biggest slags in school"...

He then goes on to say that because of that, Aine should just be a one time encounter and shouldn't be a LI. And that we should have the option of telling Cerys that her and Rane are "not romantically compatible" and have them break up because, CLEARLY all we should be thinking about with how eager they both were to have sex with Rane, and with how "slutty" they were both acting. That we should (I'm not kidding, he actually wrote this...) be thinking about "how many men they've been with" and "we shouldn't take either of them seriously romantically".

Because apparently now even Cerys?!?!? has been hinting too much that she's been with other men...

 

[Meehaha]

It was a wall of text from some guy, where skimming through it. His main complaints seem to be that Aine comes across like a "high class prostitute/mega slut" that's really quite "gross". (lmao)...And acts like a whore, that has no interest in Rane outside of his cock. Cerys is the same but milder, and the sex talk makes them both feel "gross" and like "the biggest slags in school"...

He then goes on to say that because of that, Aine should just be a one time encounter and shouldn't be a LI. And that we should have the option of telling Cerys that her and Rane are "not romantically compatible" and have them break up because, CLEARLY all we should be thinking about with how eager they both were to have sex with Rane, and with how "slutty" they were both acting. That we should (I'm not kidding, he actually wrote this...) be thinking about "how many men they've been with" and "we shouldn't take either of them seriously romantically".

Because apparently now even Cerys?!?!? has been hinting too much that she's been with other men...

I Didn't read it either but sounds like it was written by someone who should go and play a different game.
Someone needs to seriously change the subject or delete this entire conversation.
Getting very off topic and kind of irritating now.

 

[pitao]

It was a wall of text from some guy, where skimming through it. His main complaints seem to be that Aine comes across like a "high class prostitute/mega slut" that's really quite "gross". (lmao)...And acts like a whore, that has no interest in Rane outside of his cock. Cerys is the same but milder, and the sex talk makes them both feel "gross" and like "the biggest slags in school"...

He then goes on to say that because of that, Aine should just be a one time encounter and shouldn't be a LI. And that we should have the option of telling Cerys that her and Rane are "not romantically compatible" and have them break up because, CLEARLY all we should be thinking about with how eager they both were to have sex with Rane, and with how "slutty" they were both acting. That we should (I'm not kidding, he actually wrote this...) be thinking about "how many men they've been with" and "we shouldn't take either of them seriously romantically".

Because apparently now even Cerys?!?!? has been hinting too much that she's been with other men...

Yes I went to the discord channel and just read it, well I didn't read all because couldn't stomach much more of it, it could of been a constructive feedback but all the adjectival description and labeling made it lost almost all value and meaning.

And yes I'm aware of the discussion here on this thread about Áine sex dialogue to the account of it I already ignored like 6 or 7 members since the update drop here. It is just pointless pilling on on a irrelevant topic in my view/opinion.

 

[prpa]

The guy was so butthurt by the dev's response that he left a two-star review.

He also kept bringing up "cuck" talk, which I never saw in the game at all, it's just dirty talk, IMO. Honestly, with all these cuck complaints, I think some people here have a serious problem and should probably seek professional help. Maybe they've got a cuck fetish they're just too scared to admit.

 

[Dactess]

The guy was so butthurt by the dev's response that he left a two-star review.

He also kept bringing up "cuck" talk, which I never saw in the game at all, it's just dirty talk, IMO. Honestly, with all these cuck complaints, I think some people here have a serious problem and should probably seek professional help. Maybe they've got a cuck fetish they're just too scared to admit.

I didn't even give her dirty talk much thought til I came here and ppl were talking about. Such a small thing to get that upset about, just go back and turn her down as LI. I get wanting to discuss your likes and dislikes, I mean I like Cerys but am still unsure about her so I will bring her up, but some ppl act like Aine fucked their father while they were forced to watch or something. Like chill. Just pick Anwen and be happy.

 

[KhunAguero]

I didn't even give her dirty talk much thought til I came here and ppl were talking about. Such a small thing to get that upset about, just go back and turn her down as LI. I get wanting to discuss your likes and dislikes, I mean I like Cerys but am still unsure about her so I will bring her up, but some ppl act like Aine fucked their father while they were forced to watch or something. Like chill. Just pick Anwen and be happy.

Obviously they had guns to their heads to force them to watch it, and not skip a single piece of dialogue so it could fuck them up psychologically....

 

[TsubameYui]

Just proves the best character is Mean Fry... too bad you cant marry her. Maybe Leala (shes seemed more upfront despite MCs mistrust)

Based on the dialogue you get if you turned down Cerys(without crushing her), marrying Mean Fry is actually an option. MC discusses marrying her instead of Cerys if you've turned Cerys down and mentions changing the law to allow MC to marry both if you haven't.

As for Leala, I was very pleasantly surprised by how likeable she turned out to be. Her first impression wasn't the best, but the more we learn about her, the sweeter she seems to be. She's definitely in my top 5 now, maybe even top 3.

 

[Dactess]

Based on the dialogue you get if you turned down Cerys(without crushing her), marrying Mean Fry is actually an option. MC discusses marrying her instead of Cerys if you've turned Cerys down

As for Leala, I was very pleasantly surprised by how likeable she turned out to be. Her first impression wasn't the best, but the more we learn about her, the sweeter she seems to be. She's definitely in my top 5 now, maybe even top 3.

I didn't know that, I felt bad turning down Cerys so didn't see that. I agree about Leala, she could be playing us but who isn't.

 

[ryansFLYIN]

Sounds like the dev feels Aine's dialogue could/should be more direction towards the MC, so I'm hoping that translates into some amended dialogue.

Calling her a slut is a bit much - she seems to only have sex with her partners and it seemed clear that she didn't just sleep around. She just happens to have a cum fetish, which is a good thing, but I just wasn't a fan of how she worded it to the MC.

The only person who I think was over-the-top with approaching the MC about sex was Bael, and we just found out why. I understand her line of thinking, but it was off-putting up til now. Though, she may have made her own fears come true on my run if there is no second chance now that we'll finally get to see who she really is.

All the rest of the girls are so-far-so-good besides muscle-mommy, but I'm just not really interested in tall & muscular.

 

[Giggling Raven]

Because apparently now even Cerys?!?!? has been hinting too much that she's been with other men...

That's crazy because Cerys confirmed she was a virgin when MC broke her hymen the first time they had sex. She might have had a boyfriend before but she never had sex prior to MC. And as for Aine, she's a 50-something elf which are said to be very sexual people, so she knows what she likes, just hasn't had much luck with a partner before.

I imagine most of the other LIs should be virgins since they're very high in the line of succession and who their husband is is important, so they have to be pickier, but it's pretty crazy to want all of them to be shy virgins. Everybody's gunning for MC's magical prick, so they need to let him know they want it.

 

[KhunAguero]

That's crazy because Cerys confirmed she was a virgin when MC broke her hymen the first time they had sex. She might have had a boyfriend before but she never had sex prior to MC. And as for Aine, she's a 50-something elf which are said to be very sexual people, so she knows what she likes, just hasn't had much luck with a partner before.

I imagine most of the other LIs should be virgins since they're very high in the line of succession and who their husband is is important, so they have to be pickier, but it's pretty crazy to want all of them to be shy virgins. Everybody's gunning for MC's magical prick

I think some people legit are just here for porn scenes and skip the dialogue...which causes them to say cerys has also been with others, i cant help but laugh at that

 

[Lynava]

My only complaint is that they take us from the forest in a damn limousine to a sex house, like a golden calf.
Maybe I'd like to stay in the forest

 

[GibboBtw]

My only complaint is that they take us from the forest in a damn limousine to a sex house, like a golden calf.
Maybe I'd like to stay in the forest

I don't think it's possible to reach that level of branching my dude.

Try 'The Last Challenge' maybe, as I know in that one if you just spend too much time fucking a girl in the bathroom early on, you miss the bus that takes you to the "main" route, and you instead basically start a new game with completely new characters.