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MasterHowl5944

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How much of the earlier dialogue got changed, is it required to replay or should I just continue with the new content?
Not really any new content added, more about spreading out the lore dump that was already there. If you restart and get past the new scene taking with Luther and Cerys out on the patio at night, you've seen like 95% of the changes. Otherwise it's some minor things and fixes.
 

MasterHowl5944

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for sure for sure, what I actually mean is that from the scene in the latest update, he doesn't strike me as a villain potential anymore, perhaps things may change in the future story, but I'm sure hope not, as we already have some potential hurdles lining up.
His scene changes quite a bit if you're on what I call the "monster" route. That's the one where you flirt with Cerys enough to get her to confess in the beginning, then don't say anything and crush her heart.
 

Lynava

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His scene changes quite a bit if you're on what I call the "monster" route. That's the one where you flirt with Cerys enough to get her to confess in the beginning, then don't say anything and crush her heart.
Is this at the very beginning? I'm interested to see.
 

Sir_Lancelot71

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For me, the story is too linear. You can give answers, but they don't really have any impact. The Lis are too boring—you can't give mean responses to annoy them. That would actually make the story fun. The protagonist is too weak. He should definitely be stronger than his fiancée. It makes him look like a loser. He should also take over the family, not that boring woman.
 

Meiri

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For me, the story is too linear. You can give answers, but they don't really have any impact. The Lis are too boring—you can't give mean responses to annoy them. That would actually make the story fun. The protagonist is too weak. He should definitely be stronger than his fiancée. It makes him look like a loser. He should also take over the family, not that boring woman.
If you make him any stronger, there is no story to tell.
 

Meabe37

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For me, the story is too linear. You can give answers, but they don't really have any impact.
I'm not sure i get it, this is how most/all AVN are. Player choices impact relationships, sometimes endings but the stories are always almost entirely kinetic (outside a small variations or fairly short branching.)


He should definitely be stronger than his fiancée. It makes him look like a loser.
Insecurity central alert.

Anyway, the MC is kinda a newbie at magic while she is a super trained mage why would he be stronger than her?

He should also take over the family, not that boring woman.
He can't take over a family is not part of ... that don't make sense. He is not Cymhen son.

The Lis are too boring—you can't give mean responses to annoy them.
That a you problem. Neither the LIs or the game are boring to me. And it's fine not everything is for everyone.

And for being "mean" part, same it's not that type of game and just not what you are looking for.
 

Meiri

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Now that I'm caught up, I will say I was expecting a bit more conflict between the wards, or at least for the conflict between Leala and Orlaith to last a bit longer, especially since their families are supposed to have different interests. But everyone already feels loyal to each other.

I hope we get a proper antagonist reveal "soon" at his public introduction because while I love the setting and the characters the story on this last chapter has become less interesting.
 

lorkdubo

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I'm not sure i get it, this is how most/all AVN are. Player choices impact relationships, sometimes endings but the stories are always almost entirely kinetic (outside a small variations or fairly short branching.)



Insecurity central alert.

Anyway, the MC is kinda a newbie at magic while she is a super trained mage why would he be stronger than her?


He can't take over a family is not part of ... that don't make sense. He is not Cymhen son.


That a you problem. Neither the LIs or the game are boring to me. And it's fine not everything is for everyone.

And for being "mean" part, same it's not that type of game and just not what you are looking for.
I think people don't understand that people outside the family cannot take over the family, and i blame it on movies and series. One similar situation is when they portray a villain that want to marry the princess to be king, but... he will be the monarch consort not the king. Only someone with royal blood, and that is privy to the throne will sit on it.
 
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The protagonist is too weak. He should definitely be stronger than his fiancée.
Are you talking about the duel? There is a purpose to that (and you see it in books enough that it's not uncommon).

  1. He is very new to using magic (already known).
  2. He is powerful in a sense - this is acknowledged both before and after the duel.
  3. But the knowledge of how to do it well is kept within the families (explained later, but can be assumed).
  4. It's easy to teach skills, but hard to discover (already noted by this point of the story).
  5. She has far, far, more training than him (known, but explained more later in the story).
  6. She is the 'jewel' of the generation (mentioned in both skills and for position).
  7. She's afraid of losing him (can be assumed, but how much so is explained much later).
The whole world is 'unfair' to people, and he receives some of it to make the point. The problem is that this isn't a book, and there should have been a branch where he could have avoided it.

Personally, I didn't enjoy that scene because the outcome was obvious. He never stood a chance, he knew it, and he was never going to try hurt her (which is where his limited skills are). You can't opt out, you have to be the idiot. It's inconsistent with him, and it's fairly inconsistent with what we know of Cerys (and Aine, who could have stopped it). There's enough in the story to demonstrate that he knew better, should have known better, and all of that. And a family of skilled magic users whose whole deal is 'reading people' wouldn't risk forcing him away, whether they care about him or not (where the latter would just be using him for his affinity). Despite her own insecurity about losing him again, she plays with him. She doesn't take it seriously. And when she does, it's over in an instant. You don't even get the chance to point that out and just end it quickly. The overwhelming skill/power gap is fine; him not being consistent with himself before, or after, is not.

In terms of him, taking the fight is a sign of insecurity: having the strength to say no, and then admitting he knows he can't win, and wouldn't learn much from it, would have been the better outcome. There's nothing to stop them re-using the same renders to 'teach' him the same skills he learns through a non-duel learning experience, which would have been far more in keeping with everything. There's still a chance they'll do that (it'd require some branching dialogue elsewhere), and it would have made more sense to do it because it could have been as a respect-increaser with people who hear about it. (Including for Cad.)

But they made a choice, and, IMO, it shows how little agency matters here. Other than romance options, and some minor dialogue changes to date, there is no real agency. I don't care if it's linear, but it makes the character (and story) inconsistent.

The second lack-of-agency issue is the end of the second update. If he has to end up in that position, there should have been different routes to it. It was clear that he'd worked out how to 'solve' it, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have just kicked something instead (breaking his leg and falling that way), allowing for his hotheadness to dictate his actions (possibly linked to the earlier duel choice?). Probably doesn't even need a render; breaking his leg(s) instead slamming into it with his head would be another character split. Cerys calls out his creativity, which is, at this stage, his strength. So him not using it doesn't add up. But I'll leave that to the devs to work out.
 

MixYin

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I'm less than 20 minutes into this game, but I had to pause and come post this to say my many hats are all off for the writing of this game so far. The jokes are well written and simple, the plot hook is interesting, the worldbuilding is both enthralling and demure, and hot damn I was not expecting the level of writing that went into the narration and the characters. It's nothing groundbreaking, but it is an incredible breath of fresh air with current releases.

It feels like whoever spend the time to write the dialogue either has a deep love for writing, is an English major, or spent a lot of money translating. The language is immaculate, with the only nitpick I could claim being in the hardest part to do, the dialogue, and even then being quite minor. Some of the lines are a bit stuffy early on, but that's no deal breaker with these sorts of games. It can often end up making other lines stick out better, so I wouldn't remotely dock the game for that. It is just excellent so far, every hat I own on a stand for the dev, great writing, and I love what you're doing here.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
 

Sneak Monkey

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His scene changes quite a bit if you're on what I call the "monster" route. That's the one where you flirt with Cerys enough to get her to confess in the beginning, then don't say anything and crush her heart.
lol, guess I'm going the monster route then as Cerys really didn't work for me as a LI, just stopped playing before as she's so central, but figured I'd give it another go and this gives me a little more entertainment at least
 
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ImariKurumi

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So they got winds of magic?
It feels like that's the case, they're using spells via manipulating or drawing mana from the surroundings.
Seems that they can use magic on their planet Eorpe but they can't use it in space. Dunno about on their moon though but i guess they can't too.
Honestly their magic sounds more sci-fi with alien origins rather than a fantasy setting. Probably an alien artifact crash landed on Eorpe, saturating their world with 'mana', babies were born with affinity and can use 'mana'. Or their goddess has extra terrestrial origins.
 
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Sneak Monkey

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Jealousy? She openly encourages you to get with the other girls, she wingmans with a few of them. She even says that he can date them, fuck them and he can have children with them. He just can't marry them. Because by their laws everyone married to you is also married to each other and they cant marry Cerys like that since they are family. She's a lot of things bit jealous isn't one of them.
Just when I'm debating whether or not to actually give this a go again and you point out that I can't actually marry Anwen... cos the game locks you into a marriage with Cerys, so that'd be impossible. Ok, I think that's answered that for me rather well, stuck with the one I'd rather not be involved with and no choice to pursue the best girl. FFS, why have all the options, if they aren't options?
 
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