From what I repeatedly read you have done similar actions in the past. Perhaps instead of wasting brain power to be a smart ass you should spend it on how to plan to actually complete a game that you start.> pic of MC being a couch potato surrounded by pregnant mom, preg aunt, preg lil sis, and preg big sis.
> THE END
that's an ending, bro
ending was rushed, story was too big and game was not selling so I decided to cut my losses before I went broke
if you can pay me 1000$ a month I can pay the artist to finish the story, wanna do it?
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Somehow this conversation all seems vaguely familiar... And yet here we are, another 'remade game' that definitely was not 'abandoned', once again gets a big "THe ENd" placard taped on it....
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Not really, no.
All plot threads were dropped. This post in that game's thread summarizes it best
There are various other posts in that thread expounding in detail on how the plot was dropped.
Here is the thing, people don't like to be lied to or treated as fools.
If you run out of money and have to stop developing. just say so. you wouldn't get any criticism for it, in fact you will get sympathy.
maybe it will even encourage people to actually donate more to keep it alive.
and you should be commissioning art by the picture not via fixed monthly salary
You explicitly state that game development is purely business for you.
because you treat them as just business then those games are not financially successful and the business fails.
this is exactly the king of thinking and behavior that saw the downfall of ubisoft.
I am reminded of how a bunch of successful businessmen have said over the years
> Mencken in 1920: “Do a good job and you won’t need to worry about the money.”
> Phil Knight (Nike founder) is often quoted as saying in his memoir Shoe Dog and interviews: “Make something people want… the money will follow” or simply “Just make a great product.”
> Jeff Bezos (Amazon owner) has said many times: “Focus on customers (i.e., make a great product/service) and the profits will follow.”
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>If you run out of money and have to stop developing. just say so.
I did, on the platform where the game is being sold. Not on f95.
Also, all my other games were financial success, this one is an outlier, which is why i decided to rush and finish it.
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The game may already be complete, but you can still bring updates to it even if it's finished. Like the game Prince of Suburbia, if I remember correctly, the game was completed last year, but the developer brought a new update with more content a few months ago.
Maybe in the future you can bring one or more updates to this game, it's never a end.
Even though you rushed the end of the game unfortunately, keep up the good work, and good luck.
Thanks. I don't think I'll add more updates to this. Like I said, people on Steam were really not digging the theme. I think I'll focus on simpler stories with less characters and almost zero plot. I did it with Family Breeding and My Demon Family and it has worked so far.
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man just pointed to his current v0.03 game and said it is "Almost Finished"?
wild......
I hate to dogpile but i think this was a missed opportunity for Whiteleaf to have something that encompassed more than the "everyone wants to jump the MC's bones" plot. Good setting, good hook, good artwork, and they clearly wanted more for the project with the early inclusion of multiple choices and a karma system. Just got up to plate and whiffed an at bat for whatever reason.
I'm hoping they make a good project and get rewarded monetarily for it and i hope they come back to this in the future because this does have potential whatever the critiques are in its current state.
I'm hoping they make a good project and get rewarded monetarily for it and i hope they come back to this in the future because this does have potential whatever the critiques are in its current state.
0.04 (the final version) already has 10k Renpy Lines and I still have around 10 scenes to write which the art is done, I estimate it will be around 15-16k renpy lines.
Family Breeding (our best seller) has around 13200 renpy lines.
Tell me, rmatty111, if a game in 0.9 has 6 sex scenes and a game in 0.04 has 15 sex scenes, which one is closer to being finished?
It's almost like...the number version means nothing.
I could release an update every month, game would already be 0.9 or something.
I wish I could have finished all of the story, I think no game dev would want to rush and not finish a game properly.
But I don't have the resources to keep paying 1000$ a month for my artist to keep making art for a game if said game is not selling at least 1000$ a month. I'm not gonna pay from my pocket to work and create porn games, lol.
Shit happens. Like I said, it seems my public (or at least the part of them who actually buys my stuff) didn't enjoy this story. Maybe the name was bad, maybe the theme was bad, who knows? It was a failure and it got treated like a failure.
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I feel like this might be a difficult thing to grasp - a v1.0 typically means the game is done and if a dev is releasing updates to the game in versions v0.1, v0.2, v0.3, etc... - then you assume at v0.9 the dev is probably at the end of the game or the whatever their vision is.
Going from v0.06 to v1.0 is a bit more of a jump there no? Especially if releases were going from v0.01, v0.02, v0.03. People assume that a dev plans on releasing the other v0.07 to v1.0 updates no? Or at the very least attempting it...
Maybe just be a bit more honest with your update versions that way no one will accuse of you of rushing because the game was going to end in 10 updates or less
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Fuck those people, I just finished and there's about a million more scenes I was expecting. Those bastards rate match3 games as fucking perfect porn games. I'm depressed, I'm glad you speed ran 5 million sex scenes at the end though, I appreciate you for that.
My fucking necromancer battles and plot though bro Q_Q what about the car he could have purchased? What about the zombie route or that lesbian haired chick who said looked familiar or what about boning my pink-haired mechanic teacher with the mega tiddies. Aoi lava sex or Skye invis exhib sex at a rave, I had dreams Q_Q
Overall I understand, and I still enjoyed. It was bittersweet. You did good bud, you did good.
Good on you for cutting your losses. Game was really not my cup of tea. Family Breeding and Awakening were great tho.> pic of MC being a couch potato surrounded by pregnant mom, preg aunt, preg lil sis, and preg big sis.
> THE END
that's an ending, bro
ending was rushed, story was too big and game was not selling so I decided to cut my losses before I went broke
if you can pay me 1000$ a month I can pay the artist to finish the story, wanna do it?
The entitlement here is crazy, just move to other games if his shit is annoying to you.
Good luck for your next project and follow your own advice and don't do messy or big plots lol
And this is why devs learn to do it themselves if need be (though most are Daz or HS2). Many (most?) are 1-man shows and make all of $2 an hour on average. AVN not selling as expected = quit paying others and do it yourself. To me it sounds like eating overpriced fast food where you pay 5x as much for someone else to cook it vs learning to use a microwave for Sam's Club bulk buys, even as times get tough and you lost your job right before rent was due. Really though maybe 1% do ok enough in the long term to make it a decade-long career, but most don't (there's far more efficient ways to make money vs the time and effort of AVN dev if money is the main goal). And with the profit-first attitude that's counterproductive profit wise, as over time you will end up with the reputation of rushed and disappointing endings if not abandoned ones. Like this one, after reaching the ending it has I'm hesitant to even try the others, even as a die hard incest fan (which is it's own can of worms, the basic "here's your family, now go get your orgy and knock them all up" by itself over and over with the only changes mainly the looks of the characters gets old fast).