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>If you run out of money and have to stop developing. just say so.

I did, on the platform where the game is being sold. Not on f95.

Also, all my other games were financial success, this one is an outlier, which is why i decided to rush and finish it.
The game may already be complete, but you can still bring updates to it even if it's finished. Like the game Prince of Suburbia, if I remember correctly, the game was completed last year, but the developer brought a new update with more content a few months ago.

Maybe in the future you can bring one or more updates to this game, it's never a end.

Even though you rushed the end of the game unfortunately, keep up the good work, and good luck.
 

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The game may already be complete, but you can still bring updates to it even if it's finished. Like the game Prince of Suburbia, if I remember correctly, the game was completed last year, but the developer brought a new update with more content a few months ago.

Maybe in the future you can bring one or more updates to this game, it's never a end.

Even though you rushed the end of the game unfortunately, keep up the good work, and good luck.
Thanks. I don't think I'll add more updates to this. Like I said, people on Steam were really not digging the theme. I think I'll focus on simpler stories with less characters and almost zero plot. I did it with Family Breeding and My Demon Family and it has worked so far.
 
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Massive dissapointment game, looks like it was rushed with AI shit. The mom looked so good in the first parts and with such fantastic details, the butt job event looks so fine and then she becoms more and more shit and lacking. Nothing more to say.
 
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I hate to dogpile but i think this was a missed opportunity for Whiteleaf to have something that encompassed more than the "everyone wants to jump the MC's bones" plot. Good setting, good hook, good artwork, and they clearly wanted more for the project with the early inclusion of multiple choices and a karma system. Just got up to plate and whiffed an at bat for whatever reason.

I'm hoping they make a good project and get rewarded monetarily for it and i hope they come back to this in the future because this does have potential whatever the critiques are in its current state.
 

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man just pointed to his current v0.03 game and said it is "Almost Finished"?

wild......
0.04 (the final version) already has 10k Renpy Lines and I still have around 10 scenes to write which the art is done, I estimate it will be around 15-16k renpy lines.

Family Breeding (our best seller) has around 13200 renpy lines.


Tell me, rmatty111, if a game in 0.9 has 6 sex scenes and a game in 0.04 has 15 sex scenes, which one is closer to being finished?
It's almost like...the number version means nothing.

I could release an update every month, game would already be 0.9 or something.
 
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I hate to dogpile but i think this was a missed opportunity for Whiteleaf to have something that encompassed more than the "everyone wants to jump the MC's bones" plot. Good setting, good hook, good artwork, and they clearly wanted more for the project with the early inclusion of multiple choices and a karma system. Just got up to plate and whiffed an at bat for whatever reason.

I'm hoping they make a good project and get rewarded monetarily for it and i hope they come back to this in the future because this does have potential whatever the critiques are in its current state.
I wish I could have finished all of the story, I think no game dev would want to rush and not finish a game properly.

But I don't have the resources to keep paying 1000$ a month for my artist to keep making art for a game if said game is not selling at least 1000$ a month. I'm not gonna pay from my pocket to work and create porn games, lol.

Shit happens. Like I said, it seems my public (or at least the part of them who actually buys my stuff) didn't enjoy this story. Maybe the name was bad, maybe the theme was bad, who knows? It was a failure and it got treated like a failure.
 
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0.04 (the final version) already has 10k Renpy Lines and I still have around 10 scenes to write which the art is done, I estimate it will be around 15-16k renpy lines.

Family Breeding (our best seller) has around 13200 renpy lines.


Tell me, rmatty111, if a game in 0.9 has 6 sex scenes and a game in 0.04 has 15 sex scenes, which one is closer to being finished?
It's almost like...the number version means nothing.

I could release an update every month, game would already be 0.9 or something.

I feel like this might be a difficult thing to grasp - a v1.0 typically means the game is done and if a dev is releasing updates to the game in versions v0.1, v0.2, v0.3, etc... - then you assume at v0.9 the dev is probably at the end of the game or the whatever their vision is.

Going from v0.06 to v1.0 is a bit more of a jump there no? Especially if releases were going from v0.01, v0.02, v0.03. People assume that a dev plans on releasing the other v0.07 to v1.0 updates no? Or at the very least attempting it...

Maybe just be a bit more honest with your update versions that way no one will accuse of you of rushing because the game was going to end in 10 updates or less
 
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LoneS2K

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Thanks. I don't think I'll add more updates to this. Like I said, people on Steam were really not digging the theme. I think I'll focus on simpler stories with less characters and almost zero plot. I did it with Family Breeding and My Demon Family and it has worked so far.
Fuck those people, I just finished and there's about a million more scenes I was expecting. Those bastards rate match3 games as fucking perfect porn games. I'm depressed, I'm glad you speed ran 5 million sex scenes at the end though, I appreciate you for that.

My fucking necromancer battles and plot though bro Q_Q what about the car he could have purchased? What about the zombie route or that lesbian haired chick who said looked familiar or what about boning my pink-haired mechanic teacher with the mega tiddies. Aoi lava sex or Skye invis exhib sex at a rave, I had dreams Q_Q

Overall I understand, and I still enjoyed. It was bittersweet. You did good bud, you did good.
 

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> pic of MC being a couch potato surrounded by pregnant mom, preg aunt, preg lil sis, and preg big sis.
> THE END

that's an ending, bro :p:p:p
ending was rushed, story was too big and game was not selling so I decided to cut my losses before I went broke


if you can pay me 1000$ a month I can pay the artist to finish the story, wanna do it? :BootyTime::BootyTime:
Good on you for cutting your losses. Game was really not my cup of tea. Family Breeding and Awakening were great tho.

The entitlement here is crazy, just move to other games if his shit is annoying to you.

Good luck for your next project and follow your own advice and don't do messy or big plots lol
 
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I wish I could have finished all of the story, I think no game dev would want to rush and not finish a game properly.

But I don't have the resources to keep paying 1000$ a month for my artist to keep making art for a game if said game is not selling at least 1000$ a month. I'm not gonna pay from my pocket to work and create porn games, lol.

Shit happens. Like I said, it seems my public (or at least the part of them who actually buys my stuff) didn't enjoy this story. Maybe the name was bad, maybe the theme was bad, who knows? It was a failure and it got treated like a failure.
And this is why devs learn to do it themselves if need be (though most are Daz or HS2). Many (most?) are 1-man shows and make all of $2 an hour on average. AVN not selling as expected = quit paying others and do it yourself. To me it sounds like eating overpriced fast food where you pay 5x as much for someone else to cook it vs learning to use a microwave for Sam's Club bulk buys, even as times get tough and you lost your job right before rent was due. Really though maybe 1% do ok enough in the long term to make it a decade-long career, but most don't (there's far more efficient ways to make money vs the time and effort of AVN dev if money is the main goal). And with the profit-first attitude that's counterproductive profit wise, as over time you will end up with the reputation of rushed and disappointing endings if not abandoned ones. Like this one, after reaching the ending it has I'm hesitant to even try the others, even as a die hard incest fan (which is it's own can of worms, the basic "here's your family, now go get your orgy and knock them all up" by itself over and over with the only changes mainly the looks of the characters gets old fast).
 

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>.<, balls. sorry, no seriously. I've been critical of you in the past. Now I'm going to commend you for having the balls to actually respond to comments, well done there clearly made of brass. that said, now I'm going to rake them over the coals a bit.

First this is the one work here of your works that had the best traction as far as interest went, fairly sure from checking other places where you have it and your other works that it is mostly the same there too. Yet you worked to completion on those works that had lower interest and projected to be less lucrative than the most promising title in your arsenal. So, in the words of one of my favorite characters Rory Mercury "are you a goddam idiot". don't take that as an insult as much as an affirmation of a clear mistake you don't seem to be adequately apologetic enough about.

Second all your Works are VN, so you really can't justify much of anything as a dev if you can't make the most basic of a works that 90% of people don't even consider games. (yea VNs are stories, there not games). the only hard work is the writing and art, your writing is poor, and you don't do any of the art. All you have done is just throw the pieces together. Take this as ether NooB hazing or the clear stick you deserve for laziness. (because it's clear your just not a professional and clearly a noob; or your lazy as hell and are making excuses)

Now that my 2 critical points are done with, I can say well done getting it finished, now FIX IT or better luck next time. (Honestly man, I can't stress how pissed people here are with this game, so I'll leave it at this considering I'm not the only one giving your grief about it)
 

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Where is the story?
This game started with 'Take up my mantle, do it all in MY NAME' and the name isn't ever given?
MC never uses his necromancer powers aside from 'summon/unsummon the one 'zombie' he is just given.'
While on that topic... You make it a cute girl summon, she snuggles up to MC and then promptly gets no more content for the rest of the game???
You build up some bits of an interesting story and then never address them again and rush the ending? What?
What a letdown ...

Credit where credit is due though, you doubled down on the fetish scenes and those are pretty good. Although the story to lead into those was also just... not really existent. If this was how it was going to be, why not make his superpowers pheromones or aura or something so it would at least make sense?

Edit: After reading some comments I realized this is from the people behind Tamas Awakening. Everything makes sense now... *groan*
 

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Come on guys... there is plenty of DEVs who have abandoned countless games, change names and keep fooling everyone...

At least the game is completed, even if it's short (for me it's better this way) or a bit rushed.
Definitely it's not my favorite game, not all games have to be masterpiece, but it's not bad... Incest games are dying, let's appreciate what we got.
 

Bellona321

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Not sure if anyone noticed but OP post has the Space station 13 nanotrasen logo on their uniforms.
One in the red looks alot like Security officer and even has the laser/stun gun?
Other appers to be generic engineer from the game?

Anyone know if this is some Space station 13 reffrence?
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