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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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Elduriel

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so I truly hope that there's some actual thought behind all of this from the devs side.
I would be surprised if there wasn't, so far everything has been spot on, looks to me he doesn't make shit up on the spot but has the story plotted out pretty much start to finish. Maybe not down to every little detail but all good AVN devs have the overall details and plot lines planned out for the whole game.
 

Rehwyn

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...no way to trust someone who goes from literal generational hatred to "nah you cool" in a single day. No one does that without without being mentally unstable or with an ulterior motive, especially not within a species that holds grudges for thousands of years.
Minor nitpick, but they spent time together for about six or seven weeks, and it took a good bit of that time for her to start softening on him.

I believe also at some point she mentions that her hatred was based mostly on second-hand information, so with MC being the first actual human she's spent considerable time with, it could have a larger impact than if she'd had extensive interactions with humans already and had hatred born from that.
 
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nitkonikic

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Guys, the overall plot of this story is much simpler than you are making it out to be. The protagonist is an isolated entity in the middle of brewing troubles. There is, obviously, a third party playing upon the shortcomings of the two sides. The potential conflict is being manipulated because of the isolationist policies of the Alfar and the moronic arrogance of the Templars. MC will likely save the day but, maybe, if we are lucky, he'll stand back and watch it all burn to the ground...
Now, now, we're all allowed to sometimes bring silly ideas to the table.
Let the people speculate.

Granted, I completely disagree, but at least it's a discussion :)

P.S. Yep, that's also how I see things, at least realistically. But there will certainly be some twists.

I would be surprised if there wasn't, so far everything has been spot on, looks to me he doesn't make shit up on the spot but has the story plotted out pretty much start to finish. Maybe not down to every little detail but all good AVN devs have the overall details and plot lines planned out for the whole game.
And thank heavens for that. Those who don't usually end up with their stories being complete mess.
 

Ciaran8023

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I would be surprised if there wasn't, so far everything has been spot on, looks to me he doesn't make shit up on the spot but has the story plotted out pretty much start to finish. Maybe not down to every little detail but all good AVN devs have the overall details and plot lines planned out for the whole game.
That's what I'm thinking aswell but you never know. This entire conflict thing is a pretty conflicting point (EDIT: pun wasn't intended, but funny nonetheless) and I'd be a bit sad to see if there's an easy answer to it as it's incredibly nuanced right now. There's also been plenty of VN's that have historically started out strong but tapered off quite fast, so I'm merely hoping that this isn't one of those.

Minor nitpick, but they spent time together for about six or seven weeks, and it took a good bit of that time for her to start softening on him.

I believe also at some point she mentions that her hatred was based mostly on second-hand information, so with MC being the first actual human she's spent considerable time with, it could have a larger impact than if she'd had extensive interactions with humans already and had hatred born from that.
I was more pointing towards the fact that she went from literally willing to kill him on the spot to, the very next day, be more than fine to train him.
That was the biggest alarm bell to me.

Also, the vast majority of hatred is born from second-hand or even third-hand information, or information from YEARS ago (we even have modern conflicts that have their roots set hundreds of years ago) and no matter what way she gained that hatred from, it's very unlikely to uproot someone who's indoctrinated within it.
Most of the older elves remember a lot of the conflicts, they in turn pass on their hatred and all of that information to the younger generation, and when you've basically grown up being taught how to hate.. it tends to not be something that just flips in a day (again, talking about her willingness to train him after just a single day).

Even after 6 - 7 weeks, I still wouldn't be convinced that any of that hatred has lessened, as we are not certain that she wasn't just keeping up an act towards him given that he's a templar and automatically elves cannot trust him, it would make sense if she was keeping a smokescreen and it would also explain why she was fine with hopping in bed with a templar since it wouldn't be the first time in history that someone working with an intent decides to use sex as a tool of persuasion. (EDIT- and yes I know that we know he isn't one, the elves do not have that information however)

Honestly we have equally little information pointing towards her being trustworthy as we have towards her being untrustworthy, as the only narrative we have access to is the MC.. which is also the prime candidate to be lied to by every single entity in the game, that being said however, there's just something that doesn't add up in the explanations we've gotten thus far from a logical standpoint.
 
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lepoutanol

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Need more of medb . Please dev make her and MC have a great love story. You are doing great so far. Just please don't screw it up
 

Maviarab

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I'm just happy that he wants to nibble, Joshy wanted to stick his tounge inside her ears :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
I'm SO glad I continued reading what you wrote....

I see nothing wroing with a little ear tongue action.....drives women crazy. However, what I thought you were going to say at first....is where I'd definitely draw the line at....
 

xapican

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I'm SO glad I continued reading what you wrote....

I see nothing wroing with a little ear tongue action.....drives women crazy. However, what I thought you were going to say at first....is where I'd definitely draw the line at....
It's Joshy, no normal or pretty tame things with him.....:eek:
If you see a big Ice cube with him inside then you know that he intended not only a bit of tounge action :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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