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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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Krytax123

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No, that particular part I agree with but then again, I give room for A LOT of suspension of belief in VN's ;)
Obviously, youre supporting WVM after all.

But i dont remember anyone ever giving the MC any diplomatic immunity and he wasnt there as an envoy from anyone. Legally he was more or less just a random guy who walked into their territory.

Even the valkyre tells him its gonna be dangerous and not safe (the bodyguard girl too).

So yeah the alfar behave like assholes but im not sure they are damaging any international(interdimensional?) diplomatic guest rights.
 

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Obviously, youre supporting WVM after all.

But i dont remember anyone ever giving the MC any diplomatic immunity and he wasnt there as an envoy from anyone. Legally he was more or less just a random guy who walked into their territory.

Even the valkyre tells him its gonna be dangerous and not safe (the bodyguard girl too).

So yeah the alfar behave like assholes but im not sure they are damaging any international(interdimensional?) diplomatic guest rights.
Don't remember the actual wording in that scene so you could very well be correct of course.
 

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Obviously, youre supporting WVM after all.

But i dont remember anyone ever giving the MC any diplomatic immunity and he wasnt there as an envoy from anyone. Legally he was more or less just a random guy who walked into their territory.

Even the valkyre tells him its gonna be dangerous and not safe (the bodyguard girl too).

So yeah the alfar behave like assholes but im not sure they are damaging any international(interdimensional?) diplomatic guest rights.
fuck it, I went back and checked, you are right. This is the line from the script:
"We will bring you to Ãlfheimr. I guarantee you safe travel until you've had your chance to speak there. After that, you're on your own."

It's still a sorta asshole promise.
 

Rehwyn

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Don't remember the actual wording in that scene so you could very well be correct of course.
Yeah, if I remember correctly, the only reason MC had any protection at all is because Ailill extended him "guest" status until he delivered his message to Medb, with the understanding that he'd essentially be on his own from there. Obviously, Medb could have chosen to extend that protection, but she didn't.
 

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Yeah, if I remember correctly, the only reason MC had any protection at all is because Ailill extended him "guest" status until he delivered his message to Medb, with the understanding that he'd essentially be on his own from there. Obviously, Medb could have chosen to extend that protection, but she didn't.
That sounds very familiar, yes :) Thanks!
 

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But i dont remember anyone ever giving the MC any diplomatic immunity and he wasnt there as an envoy from anyone. Legally he was more or less just a random guy who walked into their territory.
Yes, that was what I wanted to point out as well he was only protected by the Hospitality customs of the Alfar.
(similar to the Celtic/ gaelic customs) And (in case you didn't kill Finn) Medb extends these, as she jumps on the ocasion to teach her daughter a lesson.
 
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Yes, that was what I wanted to point out as well he was only protected by the Hospitality customs of the Alfar.
(similar to the Celtic/ gaelic customs) And (in case you didn't kill Finn) Medb extends these, as she jumps on the ocasion to teach her daughter a lesson.
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Krytax123

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fuck it, I went back and checked, you are right. This is the line from the script:
"We will bring you to Ãlfheimr. I guarantee you safe travel until you've had your chance to speak there. After that, you're on your own."

It's still a sorta asshole promise.
Yeah it is but to be fair he didnt got invited. The alfar didnt want him there. And i dont think fin's father even had the authority to give the MC a "official" guest status.

He's the son of the fucking grandmaster and they didnt allowed ANY human into their realm for like forever and not without reasons.

He's literally spying on them (with their knowledge) and they dont have any real clue whats he's gonna do with the information he got, im actually more suprised that they (medb) are willing to let him go easy peasy before/during the war.

He has a lot of information about them and would be an awesome hostage, they kinda redeem their asshole behavior from the beginning wiht being too trusting now lol
 
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Yeah it is but to be fair he didnt got invited. The alfar didnt want him there. And i dont think fin's father even had the authority to give the MC a "official" guest status.

He's the son of the fucking grandmaster and they didnt allowed ANY human into their realm for like forever and not without reasons.

He's literally spying on them (with their knowledge) and they dont have any real clue whats he's gonna do with the information he got, im actually more suprised that they (medb) are willing to let him go easy peasy before/during the war.

He has a lot of information about them and would be an awesome hostage, they kinda redeem their asshole behavior from the beginning wiht being too trusting now lol
I think Medb warmed up to him quite a bit and she saw what an impact he had on Fin so she went with the compassionate choice.
 
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Krytax123

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I think Medb warmed up to him quite a bit and she saw what an impact he had on Fin so she went with the compassionate choice.
Yeah and the King did too in their sparring session i guess and the one queen the mc did meet could probably at least tell that theres something special about him.

Still seems kinda irresponsible in a war and i think Medb should face repercussions from the queen/king/other authoritys. They will need her for the war tho so shes probably safe.

Or the alfar have their own goal in mind with letting him go.
 

xapican

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I think Medb warmed soaked up to him quite a bit
Now it is right ! you're welcome,
regarding Whaaat! , If you got "invited" by any member of the clan who takes resposability over you (Ailil) you only can be touched by challenging you for a duel, Ailil also "invited" him because else Finn would have charged again.
TLDR no formal status here no Diplomatic imunity, just Guest / Host customs.
 

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Yeah and the King did too in their sparring session i guess and the one queen the mc did meet could probably at least tell that theres something special about him.

Still seems kinda irresponsible in a war and i think Medb should face repercussions from the queen/king/other authoritys. They will need her for the war tho so shes probably safe.

Or the alfar have their own goal in mind with letting him go.
Yeah, I don't think that their 180 in behaviour towards the MC is out of goodwill, more likely that they deemed they can either gain something from him or manipulate him to do something for them.
Just seems very unlikely for the king himself to just go "yeah kid seems cool I'll hang out with him" when it comes from a species that has held a grudge against humans (specifically templars) for like what, 1800 years or some shit?

Unless there's some like Gary Stu "the power of charisma and friendship" shit going on given that he's holding on to Durendal, but dev doesn't seem to be the type of person to write that way.
 
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HornyyPussy

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Yeah and the King did too in their sparring session i guess and the one queen the mc did meet could probably at least tell that theres something special about him.

Still seems kinda irresponsible in a war and i think Medb should face repercussions from the queen/king/other authoritys. They will need her for the war tho so shes probably safe.

Or the alfar have their own goal in mind with letting him go.
Yeah, that's one of those things we'll just have to wait for how story progresses but since she's a potential LI she is most likely safe (especially since Fin's points went to her).

Now it is right ! you're welcome,
regarding Whaaat! , If you got "invited" by any member of the clan who takes resposability over you (Ailil) you only can be touched by challenging you for a duel, Ailil also "invited" him because else Finn would have charged again.
TLDR no formal status here no Diplomatic imunity, just Guest / Host customs.
Sorry, that's not what the meme was for (I forgot to highlight that part ;) ).
 

Dessolos

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The elfs were just impressed by my head patting skills after all that's how I beat Fin in that duel so easily they thought I was gonna kill her but I just booped her nose and grabbed her hand
 

motseer

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The elfs were just impressed by my head patting skills after all that's how I beat Fin in that duel so easily they thought I was gonna kill her but I just booped her nose and grabbed her hand
Wait... Nobody told me we could use our super powers...
 

Rehwyn

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The elfs were just impressed by my head patting skills after all that's how I beat Fin in that duel so easily they thought I was gonna kill her but I just booped her nose and grabbed her hand
Yeah, as we've discussed recently, they all probably saw the nose booping and hand holding and couldn't help but get hot and bothered imagining ear nibbling (which everyone knows is an Elven weak-point).
 
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