VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

4.40 star(s) 56 Votes

Pixillin'

Member
Oct 8, 2024
276
199
Fair enough. I am a big believer in no secrets in a relationship. For me, wearing your heart of your sleeve is one thing, trying to kill me twice is another. It tends to set of a lot of red flags. I tend to take stuff like that personally. Being a game, I explored the various Finn paths from killing her straight up to letting her live and screwing her. The reality is, I don't trust her not to stab me in my sleep because I pissed her off. My MC has enough dramas without taking on that. A shame, I love blondes.
Nah, she wouldn't kill you in your sleep. She'd let you get 8 hours, have breakfast and a shower and then tell you to get your sword. Trying to kill me was just part of the heart on the sleeve thing - she'd been training for longer than MC has been alive and this was her chance to fight a Templar.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Grumpy Old Aussie

yossa999

Engaged Member
Dec 5, 2020
2,497
16,696
Fair enough. I am a big believer in no secrets in a relationship. For me, wearing your heart of your sleeve is one thing, trying to kill me twice is another. It tends to set of a lot of red flags. I tend to take stuff like that personally. Being a game, I explored the various Finn paths from killing her straight up to letting her live and screwing her. The reality is, I don't trust her not to stab me in my sleep because I pissed her off. My MC has enough dramas without taking on that. A shame, I love blondes.
A man of principles, I respect that. Usually, unhinged hatred for Kaija's guts and boundless worship of Finn's ass go hand in hand. :KEK:
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

Engaged Member
May 6, 2023
2,337
4,889
Nah, she wouldn't kill you in your sleep. She'd let you get 8 hours, have breakfast and a shower and then tell you to get your sword. Trying to kill me was just part of the heart on the sleeve thing - she'd been training for longer than MC has been alive and this was her chance to fight a Templar.
And the next time she gets the urge to prove herself...
You can have Finn all to yourself.

A man of principles, I respect that. Usually, unhinged hatred for Kaija's guts and boundless worship of Finn's ass go hand in hand. :KEK:
Nah, I hate everybody:LOL: . I love Elea and I like Fiona. Medb I'm on the ropes still. I'll wait and see.

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Did you find a unicorn or something?
Yep, I did. She feels the same way I do. We shower together every night and catch up with the details of our days. We know each other passwords, etc. In 20yrs never had a reason to doubt her. My ex wife, well that was another story.
 

UnoriginalUserName

Forum Fanatic
Sep 3, 2017
4,385
15,670
Yep, I did. She feels the same way I do. We shower together every night and catch up with the details of our days. We know each other passwords, etc. In 20yrs never had a reason to doubt her. My ex wife, well that was another story.
Well, in that case congratulations, man. I hope you realize how lucky you are (sounds like you do). I hope it stays that way for you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Grumpy Old Aussie

Grumpy Old Aussie

Engaged Member
May 6, 2023
2,337
4,889
I haven't played the last chapter do the other girls know the MC's secrets yet?
Fiona is hunting for a guy in Australia called Joshy. While Medb wants to freeze his nuts off and Elea has the secret code to your computer. And Kaija wants to hang this Joshy character upside down and gut him for breakfast. I think that is all the secrets ;):sneaky::LOL:

Nah mate only a few things about Medb
 

Knightcvel

Newbie
Jan 13, 2019
76
67
I think that in those witch trials, when women were burned in batches, they were guided by roughly the same logic and used the same level of argumentation and evidence as some people in this thread. Kaija is a brainwashed fanatic, but for some reason it is the kind and sweet champions for justice and piety who are going to stone her for wearing a slutty skirt. They even speak on behalf of everyone, just like those witch hunters. Jeez, what a funny thread. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
Kaija is brainwashed as most of the members of her order and you can see it in the dialogue held among her and MC before going to Neverwhere for the first time. Actually, there are routes where LP is low and she actually confess she sees her relationship only as a mission. The skirt is found among her clothes after she worked until late and arrived while MC was sleeping. It is slutty and not associated to work, especially with she went to work dressing another apparel.
 

Knightcvel

Newbie
Jan 13, 2019
76
67
I bought the game on Steam and I am a patreon supporter as well. My response is speak for yourself and no CEO doesn't at all. He has his own plans for the unfolding of his story. He doesn't have to bow to anyone. I don't want a more aggressive Templar path, the opposite. I'd like to see the Templars redeemed and I was hoping the MC may clean house with the Templars and restore them towards a better path. If that doesn't happen so be it. It isn't my story to tell.

The Templars of Assassins Creed bear little resemblance to the Templars of history. Assassins Creed is a game, not a history lesson. It's pretty concerning you let games influence you so much that you bear a fanatical hatred for a group a people from a 1000 years ago.
Sorry, but I have problems with those who claim to be their legacy. Some members of freemasons and related groups. My work is mostly in politics and we have a relationship of love and hate with several groups and individuals who once in a while presents themselves as modern day templars. I don't like that kind of influence in the medium where I work and the activism they sometimes engage have made us crash in a few instances.
 

yossa999

Engaged Member
Dec 5, 2020
2,497
16,696
Kaija is brainwashed as most of the members of her order and you can see it in the dialogue held among her and MC before going to Neverwhere for the first time. Actually, there are routes where LP is low and she actually confess she sees her relationship only as a mission. The skirt is found among her clothes after she worked until late and arrived while MC was sleeping. It is slutty and not associated to work, especially with she went to work dressing another apparel.
Bro, do you hear yourself?

She serves in an organization that maintains secrecy, has a clear hierarchy, discipline and goals that are known only to some extent to its agents. In this sense, there is no difference between the Order and any agency with three letters. She is just as brainwashed as the average soldier, police officer, detective or government agent, she serves and protects.

Decisions that change the past are entirely the developer's fault. :BootyTime: On the other hand, they add additional variability to the game and make it more interesting. If you don't like the way Kaija treats you, it's because of your choices towards her, and you alone are to blame.

A skirt is just a skirt. I've seen shorter ones, I've seen more revealing ones. Right in this game. Not associated with any sluttiness, in no way indicating that the owner of the skirt is a whore. These are your prejudices, nothing more.

By the way, if you saw her, MC and other people in their outfits when they were in Neverwhere, then the skirt question is disappears on its own. She was probably in Neverwhere before she came home.
 

SamualHand

Engaged Member
May 4, 2018
3,422
4,739
Sorry, but I have problems with those who claim to be their legacy. Some members of freemasons and related groups. My work is mostly in politics and we have a relationship of love and hate with several groups and individuals who once in a while presents themselves as modern day templars. I don't like that kind of influence in the medium where I work and the activism they sometimes engage have made us crash in a few instances.
There is a whore in your head, be careful with her, she might murder you one day!
 
  • Haha
Reactions: yossa999

Knightcvel

Newbie
Jan 13, 2019
76
67
There is a whore in your head, be careful with her, she might murder you one day!
In my job (I was ellected and reellect two years ago) most of the time we are paranoids. We see danger in other groups that disputed with us and even among our coleagues and unfortunaly most of the time our gut feelings are right. It's an entirely peculiar environment and now and them our interests and the interests of groups sponsored by those who claim to be modern templaries (some politicians, public administrators indicated by them, social observatories and rivalries) made us crash in a few issues. The social observatory in my city was formed by 9 mansonic lodges and a rock extraction company and it was pretty intense when they opposed to two bills that were important to us.
 

Knightcvel

Newbie
Jan 13, 2019
76
67
Bro, do you hear yourself?

She serves in an organization that maintains secrecy, has a clear hierarchy, discipline and goals that are known only to some extent to its agents. In this sense, there is no difference between the Order and any agency with three letters. She is just as brainwashed as the average soldier, police officer, detective or government agent, she serves and protects.

Decisions that change the past are entirely the developer's fault. :BootyTime: On the other hand, they add additional variability to the game and make it more interesting. If you don't like the way Kaija treats you, it's because of your choices towards her, and you alone are to blame.

A skirt is just a skirt. I've seen shorter ones, I've seen more revealing ones. Right in this game. Not associated with any sluttiness, in no way indicating that the owner of the skirt is a whore. These are your prejudices, nothing more.

By the way, if you saw her, MC and other people in their outfits when they were in Neverwhere, then the skirt question is disappears on its own. She was probably in Neverwhere before she came home.
I don't think she serves and protects in the same scope as those professionals you mentioned. They have a hidden agenda in this game that attracted hatrad from otherwise peaceful and noble beings. I only mentioned the skirt because it was show in the beggining of the game as a cue to a double hidden life, it's not prejudice of my part, just an observation about a plot element.
 

yossa999

Engaged Member
Dec 5, 2020
2,497
16,696
They have a hidden agenda in this game that attracted hatrad from otherwise peaceful and noble beings.
Sounds like every govt agency. :KEK:
And this is where I shut up, because politics and religion are off-topic and forbidden by the general rules of this forum :KEK:
I only mentioned the skirt because it was show in the beggining of the game as a cue to a double hidden life, it's not prejudice of my part, just an observation about a plot element.
Her panties and bra were lying next to her skirt. What does this tell us about her hidden life? :KEK:
Shouldn't she have put them in the washing machine right away to hide... uh... any possible traces of... hmm... her job.

Look, I'm not ruling anything out in this game, especially given this twist with the hotheaded young Finnabair.
But to conclude that the skirt's owner was on a secret seduction mission is, in my opinion, too far-fetched.
 

Joshy92

Devoted Member
Mar 25, 2021
11,475
25,524
Sounds like every govt agency. :KEK:
And this is where I shut up, because politics and religion are off-topic and forbidden by the general rules of this forum :KEK:

Her panties and bra were lying next to her skirt. What does this tell us about her hidden life? :KEK:
Shouldn't she have put them in the washing machine right away to hide... uh... any possible traces of... hmm... her job.

Look, I'm not ruling anything out in this game, especially given this twist with the hotheaded young Finnabair.
But to conclude that the skirt's owner was on a secret seduction mission is, in my opinion, too far-fetched.
You can rule out Kaija sleeping with someone else Ceolag said that years ago.
 

Knightcvel

Newbie
Jan 13, 2019
76
67
Sounds like every govt agency. :KEK:
And this is where I shut up, because politics and religion are off-topic and forbidden by the general rules of this forum :KEK:
They are mostly a family centered order where most of the members are sons and daughters of senior members. Very few find out about them and request to join. They are like zealots who want to do anything and everything for what they believe. They are indoctrinated since very young and their actions are an element of instability. Remember that the Elvar wants them dissolved and out of Neverwhere and Elvar are not imperalistic warmongers.
 
4.40 star(s) 56 Votes