VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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Dessolos

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ew, y'all can have Kaija, I'll just take the rest of them :ROFLMAO:
well you know me I'll always love Kaija she hasn't done enough wrong in my eyes yet ( on the love path anyways). I am liking Medb nearly as much however after the update so I might end up flip flopping once we get more Medb updates.
 
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you can also have my Kaija, I dumped her
Aber Bärchen....! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I can see Kaija, Fiona and Elea are mostly in discussion. Well, fine by me.
In the meantime I'm gonna take my chances with Medb ;):cool:

She will need somebody to cheer her up.
Yeah penetrate deep into Medbs mind.....(or how is the lower part between the legs called?) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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While we're on the topic, what do we think the odds are that if you and Finn fuck she told Medb? Elves are pretty open about sex it seems, and she was pretty much already telling her mom everything she did with you...

That could have some interesting implications later on if it comes up in conversation with other LIs you might be with. :KEK:
 
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How do you guys feeling about killing off our alfar mentor girl?

Usually its hated in avn's when a "LI" dies but imo the story implications are great for this one and gives the mc (more) reason for personal involvement, how do you feel about it?

I felt like it was obvious thats shes gonna die since their lewd and the talk about the future.
I have mixed feelings about it. While obviously sad, I think it served an important narrative function in the larger story. In that sense, I think it worked well. But as the central arc of the current chapter - in a vacuum - I think it had several shortcomings. First, it focused too much of our time in Alfheimr on a single character, who then died. Second, I strongly dislike tying closure of Finnabair's story to another character's path. You can read my initial thoughts if you want the full chapter and verse.


Yeah I mean I think Kaija will be in it but I do think be more of a focus on at least those 2 than Kaija + the story elements. As I feel we need to start to learn a bit more about Fiona and Elea , especially Fiona's family. but that is just me
Honestly, I think all the girls need time in the spotlight ASAP. Kaija is obviously a charged topic and plenty of players will want nothing more to do with her, but for those who are on her path, there's a lot of her backstory still being withheld. More importantly, she and the MC have some huge issues to discuss after the stunt he just pulled, and putting the discussion on hold (after completely ignoring her in chapter 5) isn't going to work well.

Meanwhile Elea desperately needs a solid connection to the plot; I like the character well enough, but thus far she might as well be in a separate game. Medb, despite a lot of camera time in Chapter 5, remains a very thinly sketched presence in the game and has less chemistry with the MC than poor Helena (IMHO). Fiona might actually be in the best position to spend time on the back burner, since we've established the basics of who she is and how she could tie in to future events, and her mysterious backstory isn't tied to current events (AFAWCT). Still, it will grate if the MC ignores her for another chapter given how quickly their relationship has developed to this point (if he's on her path, of course).

Combine all that with some long overdue details of what the Templars actually do and how this much ballyhooed war with the elves will be fought, and Chapter 6 has a lot of ground to cover even before we get to advancing the main story. It makes me a little nervous, I'm not going to lie.
 
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For those who broke up with Kaija and burnt bridges with parents (hence Templars) the next chapter will be just the closure, as far as Kaija concerns the "truce" is over, Grandmaster is back, and MC don't need Kaija to team up, plus he got advanced "fencing lessons" so those can go other path to the end of the story.
those who are on Kaija and parents path, will have the oportunity to help father out and Maybe avoid a war between the Alfar and Templars. so all is still open, totally agree that next chapter is fully loaded, and it must by mere logic bring the decision if we side with Alfar, Templars, or seek for other alternative more so that there are only 10 to 11 chapters planned.
 

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For those who broke up with Kaija and burnt bridges with parents (hence Templars) the next chapter will be just the closure, as far as Kaija concerns the "truce" is over, Grandmaster is back, and MC don't need Kaija to team up, plus he got advanced "fencing lessons" so those can go other path to the end of the story.
those who are on Kaija and parents path, will have the oportunity to help father out and Maybe avoid a war between the Alfar and Templars. so all is still open, totally agree that next chapter is fully loaded, and it must by mere logic bring the decision if we side with Alfar, Templars, or seek for other alternative more so that there are only 10 to 11 chapters planned.
Obviously any given LI can be brushed over very quickly if you aren't on her path, but my point was that none of their paths are at a particularly good pausing point going into Chapter 6. And IMHO, Kaija's path is the most in need of attention of all of them. As I keep saying, on her love path the MC chose to forgive her deception and committed to spending time with her as a couple... only for Chapter 5 to ignore her completely when confronting the parents, then double down by having the MC run off for a holiday with one of her mortal enemies. All without so much as a text message. This is NOT some little detail that can wait for Chapter 7 to laugh off, it's a fully blown relationship crisis for a relationship that barely survived the last crisis a week earlier.

Unfortunately, with so many other irons in the fire and Kaija herself roughly as popular as an IRS audit, I fear waiting for Chapter 7 could easily happen. :(
 
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Unfortunately, with so many other irons in the fire and Kaija herself roughly as popular as an IRS audit, I fear waiting for Chapter 7 could easily happen. :(
Sometimes I do wonder if there was a poll what % would say they like Kaija vs hate. While not a metric you can go by and won't be accurate. Every once in awhile when I do see a post on reddit about this game and I see more comments about liking Kaija than hating her over there but the complete opposite on this thread.
 
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: hey they're popular too, just not the nicest thing what could happen to someone :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: (I guess IRS is the same as DGI over here Tax agency ?)
Probably.
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Sometimes I do wonder if there was a poll what % would say they like Kaija vs hate. While not a metric you can go by and won't be accurate. Every once in awhile when I do see a post on reddit about this game and I see more comments about liking Kaija than hating her over there but the complete opposite on this thread.
I'd love to know, too. I like Kaija quite a bit, but I can see why others would not.

Sadly, I don't think the game has handled Kaija all that well. Not only is her variable backstory easy to miss (and sometimes downright confusing), but the game has really had to bend over backwards to keep the two extreme sub-paths on the same page. Players who want nothing more to do with her are still stuck dealing with her quite a bit, while players who want to treat her as a partner never get a chance to confide in her the way they can with Elea or Fiona.

Despite Ceolag's valiant efforts to accommodate other options, the game clearly works best with Kaija as a mostly friend who could eventually become more. But I think we're approaching a breaking point for the love route. Eventually the MC has to start treating her like a girlfriend if the choice is to have any meaning, and Chapter 5 was a big step in the wrong direction.
 

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Sometimes I do wonder if there was a poll what % would say they like Kaija vs hate. While not a metric you can go by and won't be accurate. Every once in awhile when I do see a post on reddit about this game and I see more comments about liking Kaija than hating her over there but the complete opposite on this thread.
It would depend how the question is worded and if there are options. There are people like me who hate Kaija as a girlfriend. No way in hell would I forgive and trust her as a gf. I can't stand women who do that sort of shit. In saying that, I do like her as a Templar, she has plenty of skills and moves and is very loyal and dedicated.
 

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While we're on the topic, what do we think the odds are that if you and Finn fuck she told Medb? Elves are pretty open about sex it seems, and she was pretty much already telling her mom everything she did with you...

That could have some interesting implications later on if it comes up in conversation with other LIs you might be with. :KEK:
Would be pretty based if that decision grenades the Medb path .

It would depend how the question is worded and if there are options. There are people like me who hate Kaija as a girlfriend. No way in hell would I forgive and trust her as a gf. I can't stand women who do that sort of shit. In saying that, I do like her as a Templar, she has plenty of skills and moves and is very loyal and dedicated.
It would probably depend on where the Poll is at, Steam, Patreon, or here.

The LI's are quite something in this game.
The red head's a traitor.
The ginger is Sus.
The blonde is bland.
The brunette a bitch.
 

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Sometimes I do wonder if there was a poll what % would say they like Kaija vs hate. While not a metric you can go by and won't be accurate. Every once in awhile when I do see a post on reddit about this game and I see more comments about liking Kaija than hating her over there but the complete opposite on this thread.
Poll would be heavily in favor of Kaija.
Simple truth is, people will mostly raise their voice to complain about something/someone (vocal minority).

Most also play VN just as it is, VN, not really "putting themselves in shoes of protagonist". And in that case, eh, why "lose" content?
You can't "feel" betrayal if you just see it as fun twist in a story, nothing else.

My prediction would be strong 80/20 in favor of Kaija fans, if not even higher.
p.s. (fuck Kaija)
 
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