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boys i come to you with a theory. we know linnae HAD a relationship but shit was tough because of her job and it wasn't healthy to raise a family. we never got conclusive evidence that she SAID she didn't have a child though, just that her husband left and her duty wasn't fit to raise a family.
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i noticed this necklace after replaying because i had forgotten the story, i remember it was a banger but forgot alot of the details but then i realized
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elea has the same necklace. what do we know about elea's family? her mom split and never bothered to look for her and her dad died. she has always believed in mythologies and likes to study them for fun. what do you think the chances are theres a relation here?
 

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elea has the same necklace. what do we know about elea's family? her mom split and never bothered to look for her and her dad died. she has always believed in mythologies and likes to study them for fun. what do you think the chances are theres a relation here?
Could be... but I know 3 or 4 girls with that as a tattoo. The eye of Ra isn't that unusual a symbol...
 

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Maybe she didn't faked it and it was her way to give MC an easy opt out on that route, because obviously their relationship was a little bit tensed as you can see when you don't get the early relationship points. You've to act more cold towards her to get on her "it was just friendship" path. Acting cold isn't helpful in a relationship. What if she does love him but recognized her jobs hurts MC and their relationship way too much and with the truth about being a Templar on the table, she decided to sacrifice herself to give MC the opportunity to start new?
I don't think she did it as a deliberate sacrifice, but I generally agree. Kaija was reluctant to 'commit' to the relationship precisely because of the inability to come clean about her real job - at least on the love path. That put even more of a strain on the relationship since to the MC it appeared like she was being distant, leading to the situation we saw at the start of the game.


Maybe my interpretation is a bit different then or I just simply forgot something been awhile and I do need to replay anyways whenever the update drops. But damn if that's the case kind of weird and pointless to fight against the order on the love path if she is going to do it anyways only to make her job easier. My interpretation always been she never did it to make her job easier on the love path but did it cause it was something she actually wanted but of course she be a fool not to use it to her advantage for her work too.
The exact details of Kaija's relationship are a mess, partially because her motivations retroactively change based on our actions, and partially because the dialog was kept a little vague on the details (I suspect to facilitate the branching).

My own take is that Kaija didn't intend to get into a relationship with the MC. She intended to get closer to him by doing "friend stuff" to facilitate her role as a bodyguard, which I take to mean moving in with him and spending a lot of time together. The relationship happened accidentally, partially because the MC saw it as natural, and partially because Kaija went along with it (likely since there was no graceful way to back out without spilling the beans). On the Love path she really enjoyed spending time with the MC and eventually developed feeling for him, whereas on the other paths it was more a matter of convenience and she never felt anything beyond a basic friendship.

That's the only way I can see to square her insistence that she didn't intend to start a fake relationship with her admission that "everything but the original friendship" was an act.


boys i come to you with a theory. we know linnae HAD a relationship but shit was tough because of her job and it wasn't healthy to raise a family. we never got conclusive evidence that she SAID she didn't have a child though, just that her husband left and her duty wasn't fit to raise a family.
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i noticed this necklace after replaying because i had forgotten the story, i remember it was a banger but forgot alot of the details but then i realized
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elea has the same necklace. what do we know about elea's family? her mom split and never bothered to look for her and her dad died. she has always believed in mythologies and likes to study them for fun. what do you think the chances are theres a relation here?
Interesting idea.
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Could be... but I know 3 or 4 girls with that as a tattoo. The eye of Ra isn't that unusual a symbol...
the tattoo seems to be the symbol for the templar order i believe since kevin and kaija both have it on their hands but the same necklace seemed coincidental and the way that the scene in the elea's bathroom focused on that corner where the necklace was seemed to show it was important to see. i mean it could very well just be a reused asset and im jumping to deep down rabbit holes but i don't think i noticed it the first time around
 

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Not that tattoo - the eye of Ra.
Are you sure it's the eye of Ra? I know the way it's sitting it is a right eye, but that necklace could be turned around and it would become a left eye.

I'm not an expert by any means, only remember some things my daughter told me, when she was studying it a couple of years ago and I may be remembering wrong.

I though the eye of Ra symbolized masculinity, strength, power, and protection through violence.
While the eye of Horus symbolized femininity, restoration, protection, and deflecting malevolent forces.

Which one would suit Linnae better? I really don't know, (I can see a case for both), but I'm wondering about the significance since Elea has the same/similar one.
Perhaps it is deliberately made to be able to apply for both Horus & Ra.

Or maybe it's just a necklace and I'm wasting far too much time thinking about it.
 
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Are you sure it's the eye of Ra? I know the way it's sitting it is a right eye, but that necklace could be turned around and it would become a left eye.

I'm not an expert by any means, only remember some things my daughter told me, when she was studying it a couple of years ago and I may be remembering wrong.

I though the eye of Ra symbolized masculinity, strength, power, and protection through violence.
While the eye of Horus symbolized femininity, restoration, protection, and deflecting malevolent forces.

Which one would suit Linnae better? I really don't know, (I can see a case for both), but I'm wondering about the significance since Elea has the same/similar one.
Perhaps it is deliberately made to be able to apply for both Horus & Ra.

Or maybe it's just a necklace and I'm wasting far too much time thinking about it.
gotta wait for the next update or until ceolag hits us with that "i would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for that dumb dog and pesky kids!" for confirmation but until then good work gang, pretty sure we solved another mystery
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boys i come to you with a theory. we know linnae HAD a relationship but shit was tough because of her job and it wasn't healthy to raise a family. we never got conclusive evidence that she SAID she didn't have a child though, just that her husband left and her duty wasn't fit to raise a family.
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i noticed this necklace after replaying because i had forgotten the story, i remember it was a banger but forgot alot of the details but then i realized
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elea has the same necklace. what do we know about elea's family? her mom split and never bothered to look for her and her dad died. she has always believed in mythologies and likes to study them for fun. what do you think the chances are theres a relation here?
I also had some small thoughts about that back when chapter 4 was released, I'm glad you guys are actually developing on it.
 

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Hey everyone,

another week gone, one week closer to the release of Chapter 5.

This week I finished the work on the the long scene with most of the remaining animations.
The animations still need to be rendered and will keep the PC busy for a while.

I also started work on the 2 short scenes. The first is almost done and will be finished later today.
The 2nd one is written and waiting for its renders which I'll start working on when I'm done with the current scene.

I hope to finish the renders for that scene early to mid next week and move on to the final scene.

The final scene won't be very long but I have a pretty clear image in my head of how it should go and look like.
And I'm not sure if I have the skills to do it in DAZ.

I have 2 backup plans if it doesn't work out, so I won't spend banging my head against the DAZ wall for 4 weeks.
If everything goes well, next week at this time I'll be working on the last bits of the Chapter.

The numbers for this week:
81 new static renders for a total of 2355
4 new animations for a total of 52
257 new lines in the script file for a total of 6613

Thank you all for your support and patience with this Chapter. I know it's a pretty long while since the last release but we're pretty close now.

Have a nice weekend.

Cheers,
Ceolag

P.S. No preview renders for this week as all would be spoilers. I hope to come up with a few from the 2 short scenes next week.
 

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Hey everyone,

another week gone, one week closer to the release of Chapter 5.

This week I finished the work on the the long scene with most of the remaining animations.
The animations still need to be rendered and will keep the PC busy for a while.

I also started work on the 2 short scenes. The first is almost done and will be finished later today.
The 2nd one is written and waiting for its renders which I'll start working on when I'm done with the current scene.

I hope to finish the renders for that scene early to mid next week and move on to the final scene.

The final scene won't be very long but I have a pretty clear image in my head of how it should go and look like.
And I'm not sure if I have the skills to do it in DAZ.

I have 2 backup plans if it doesn't work out, so I won't spend banging my head against the DAZ wall for 4 weeks.
If everything goes well, next week at this time I'll be working on the last bits of the Chapter.

The numbers for this week:
81 new static renders for a total of 2355
4 new animations for a total of 52
257 new lines in the script file for a total of 6613

Thank you all for your support and patience with this Chapter. I know it's a pretty long while since the last release but we're pretty close now.

Have a nice weekend.

Cheers,
Ceolag

P.S. No preview renders for this week as all would be spoilers. I hope to come up with a few from the 2 short scenes next week.
According to these numbers, Ceolag is now averaging approximately 89 static renders, 2.0 animations and 250 lines per week since work on Chapter 5 officially began. Here are the charts:
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We're clearly approaching the finish line, the question is exactly how far away it is. The animation rate dropped noticeably this week even though we're well below my estimated animation totals and we know Ceolag finished posing most of the remaining animations. It's always possible these animations are technically complex and thus there's a large rendering queue built up, but most likely it indicates that my estimates are too high. We'll probably know for sure when we see next week's numbers, as well as hear how Ceolag's plans for the finale faired against DAZ.

There's still a little ways to go, but it does sound like we're getting close. Fingers crossed we won't have to wait too much longer.
 
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I don't think I have ever seen Medb looking so vulnerable, sad even. Maybe there is a soft beating heart under all that ice afterall. I volunteer to comfort her.
You're a good man Grumpy. Taking one for the team. :) She just needs someone to hold her hand and rub her head. ;) I'm almost positive she won't cut off any off your body parts. :unsure: Best of luck, my friend.
 
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