VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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Raziel_8

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I think if we exclude a relationship with the MC, fighting is Kaija's only reason for existence. He was trying to stop a river with his hands
Did they even try ?
I mean, someone is giving her all those missions she's on all the time...and are you implying Kaija would disobey direct orders :eek:
 

Canto Forte

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MC is a nepo baby who likes the ignorant life he has while being whatever about everything around him.
The fact MC accepts that his mom is casually socialising with his boss and she can make work place decisions over his head directly to his boss - he accepts that and it means he is used to it without question:
Like Paris Hilton accepting her money came from her parents but her being oblivious to all of it was painfully obvious with MC as well.
MC spent his uni years just chatting his life away with Kaija at the peer, no escalation, no romance, no plans together, no build their life together - if MC ever tried to make something of himself, without falling back on his mom and dad for everything important in his life, the talk about the reality of life in this multiverse of madness would have come to a head sooner.

MC is not ready to become a man - he accepts his mom making job decisions directly over his head with his boss - how much more nepo baby can you be before players see how shallow and uninteresting MC is to himself first and to everyone around?


MC becomes a human shield for Madb one time and suddenly he falls onto three magical macguffins that make him literally impervious to Fina - becomes the casual chat buddy to Nimue who is not talking to MEdb for centuries and MC finds out truths that the Alfar have got all wrong for the longest time - Fin would have died not knowing the truth had MC arrived a couple of days later to her kingdom.
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motseer

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MC is a nepo baby who likes the ignorant life he has while being whatever about everything around him.
The fact MC accepts that his mom is casually socialising with his boss and she can make work place decisions over his head directly to his boss - he accepts that and it means he is used to it without question:
Like Paris Hilton accepting her money came from her parents but her being oblivious to all of it was painfully obvious with MC as well.
MC spent his uni years just chatting his life away with Kaija at the peer, no escalation, no romance, no plans together, no build their life together - if MC ever tried to make something of himself, without falling back on his mom and dad for everything important in his life, the talk about the reality of life in this multiverse of madness would have come to a head sooner.

MC is not ready to become a man - he accepts his mom making job decisions directly over his head with his boss - how much more nepo baby can you be before players see how shallow and uninteresting MC is to himself first and to everyone around?


MC becomes a human shield for Madb one time and suddenly he falls onto three magical macguffins that make him literally impervious to Fina - becomes the casual chat buddy to Nimue who is not talking to MEdb for centuries and MC finds out truths that the Alfar have got all wrong for the longest time - Fin would have died not knowing the truth had MC arrived a couple of days later to her kingdom.
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Krytax123

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Im late to the party and will make it short: Really really really awesome update! Loved everything about it and the possibilitys it created for the future storyline.

The MC's dad seems like such a loser tho (and not in the way avns usually present the bad/evil/loser dad) that its hard to imagine him being the leader of the templars for so long. He seems to lack any kind of perspective about his organisation and his own family.

He just seems very weak (not talking about his unknow fighting abilitys here) and not able to lead a organisation.
 
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nitkonikic

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Im late to the party and will make it short: Really really really awesome update! Loved everything about it and the possibilitys it created for the future storyline.

The MC's dad seems like such a loser tho (and not in the way avns usually present the bad/evil/loser dad) that its hard to imagine him being the leader of a templars for so long. He seems to lack any kind of perspective about his organisation and his own family.

He just seems very weak (not talking about his unknow fighting abilitys here) and not able to lead a organisation.
What do you mean?
He's proven to be extremely capable of messing up his sons life.
It's underappreciated skill.

EDIT: Damn my boredom.
I've expressed my love for parents in excruciating detail last few pages, so you'll know this is unusual, but let me be devils (appropriate for this bastard) lawyer.

He was kidnapped, rescued by his own son, son he kept in the dark all this time.
He is, understandably, lost.
Think those who didn't burn bridges might get to see dad in action.

In situation such as chapter 5, he is fucked. Nothing he says or does can be easy to do. Lying to his son, messing up his life, then having to rely on same son to save his ass and have to provide full explanation on why he did what he did that same day.

Him being lost, confused and worried actually plays in favour of those who are pro-forgive.
He feels like that because he knows he messed up, and it will be really hard not to lose his son because of it.
It's because he actually cares that he looks weak.

Give him few days to process everything and I'm sure he'll be back to leadership.

Then again, rest of council is made out of morons, so who knows...
 
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For me the father could have told him and kept him out of the Templar. It would have better prepared him just in case he had to enter that world. With that knowledge when his mother told him to leave he would have been able to react. Katja situation is understandable but manipulative. A relationship created through a lie even if love becomes true can it be trusted by the one who was lied to.
 

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A relationship created through a lie even if love becomes true can it be trusted by the one who was lied to.
We can't ever know for sure. At some point you have to decide to trust the person you love. If you can't, maybe the problem is you. :shrug:
 

Dr.TSoni

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For me the father could have told him and kept him out of the Templar. It would have better prepared him just in case he had to enter that world. With that knowledge when his mother told him to leave he would have been able to react. Katja situation is understandable but manipulative. A relationship created through a lie even if love becomes true can it be trusted by the one who was lied to.
Just because it went badly for Professor Jones in the Last Crusade it doesn't always have to be that way
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For me the father could have told him and kept him out of the Templar. It would have better prepared him just in case he had to enter that world. With that knowledge when his mother told him to leave he would have been able to react. Katja situation is understandable but manipulative. A relationship created through a lie even if love becomes true can it be trusted by the one who was lied to.
We can't ever know for sure. At some point you have to decide to trust the person you love. If you can't, maybe the problem is you. :shrug:
Kaija...Katja....tells you a different name depending on her mood. You want to trust her e6? Pff....on your severed head one night be it :ROFLMAO:
 
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e6mill

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You want to trust her e6?
Sounds like a better deal than "Waa, my GF didn't tell me everything, must be time to get pointy ear surgery and start chanting 'death to all humans!' with my new fam"...
Yes, you hate Kaija and your butthurt is so great that you want to kill every last human, we GET IT already. Maybe there should be an "I hate Kaija with the fire of thousand suns" thread we can have this one back to talk about the game?
 

Raziel_8

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"Waa, my GF didn't tell me everything, must be time to get pointy ear surgery and start chanting 'death to all humans!' with my new fam"...
Hey now, shared hobbies are good for a long and healthy relationship :p
"I hate Kaija with the fire of thousand suns"
Curious if Ceolag will make an achievement out of it, it has a nice ring to it :ROFLMAO:
 
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