VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

[Dessolos]

It's the mark of a good writer to get the reader so emotional over the loss of a character. Ceolag has some skills. LOF, AL, AFS, and a few other games were good story telling as well. Its for VNs like these that I am here. Porn is porn and you can get it anywhere, good story telling, that is much harder to find.

I agree while I don't play for the porn but rather the character interaction / slice of life dating sim bit a bit more. When there is good story telling I don't even care about that part anymore.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I agree while I don't play for the porn but rather the character interaction / slice of life dating sim bit a bit more. When there is good story telling I don't even care about that part anymore.

I was always a fan of comics and graphic novels. VNs are not much different. I enjoy novels but being old, comics and graphic novels were always easier to cart around to read while travelling etc. A friend gifted me a VN on Steam and I liked it and bought a few more and got hooked on them. Deliverance was one of the first I read and Leap of Faith and so on. Been a fan ever since.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I agree while I don't play for the porn but rather the character interaction / slice of life dating sim bit a bit more. When there is good story telling I don't even care about that part anymore.

I can find 'decent' porn with a 30 second search.

I can spend weeks to months playing AVNs and not find a truly engaging story that draws me into another world.

Ceolag is, IMO, a very good writer/AVN creator.

I've seen both good writing that was poorly translated into an AVN and beautiful AVNs with very good renders/animations and the poor story telling kept pulling me out of immersion.

Finding both in one dev is the gem.

Spoiler: The Finnabair Story Arc and Medb

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The downside to finding such a good story is trying to be patient for more Of that story...

Still - this is a better problem to have than the one of never having found that story in the first place.

Cheers!!

 

[Dessolos]

I can find 'decent' porn with a 30 second search.

I can spend weeks to months playing AVNs and not find a truly engaging story that draws me into another world.

Ceolag is, IMO, a very good writer/AVN creator.

I've seen both good writing that was poorly translated into an AVN and beautiful AVNs with very good renders/animations and the poor story telling kept pulling me out of immersion.

Finding both in one dev is the gem.

Spoiler: The Finnabair Story Arc and Medb

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The downside to finding such a good story is trying to be patient for more Of that story...

Still - this is a better problem to have than the one of never having found that story in the first place.

Cheers!!

yeah finding a story you can get into is rare. Finding a game that you enjoy not so much at least for me as I tend to get into characters and enjoy them rather easily even if they are fuck fest haha. Which is why after playing AVN's for like 6 months straight when I first started , I had to take a step back and start to play normal video games again. I finally found a okay way to balance both for now I think, only took me like 9 months to find it lol. Tho I will say I notice im able to enjoy alot of games people just don't , unless they are harems those are harder for me to enjoy.

 

[minibaer12]

Spoiler: The Finnabair Story Arc and Medb

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I totally agree with you, the whole trip to Alfheimr has really broadened the MC's horizons.

You could literally watch how enemies (Finnabair & Medb & MC) became friends with a very tragic ending. Now I'm wondering whether the Dev is pulling THE trump card that he himself built into the plot???

He (the Dev) has created a way to prevent Finnabair's death!!!

[edit] We don't know what the Dev had in mind or what the purpose of her death is, and we know even less how the story continues. We also don't know if the Dev intentionally had or had this possibility in mind. We'll see in the future.

 

[Maviarab]

Now I'm wondering whether the Dev is pulling THE trump card that he himself built into the plot???

He (the Dev) has created a way to prevent Finnabair's death!!!

First....spoiler your damn post please.

Secondly, she is dead...D...E....A...D...she ain't coming back.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Finnabair arc definitely changed the MCS perception especially when it comes to relationships and family. Will his feelings for his family change.

 

[Canto Forte]

MC went over to stop the war. He failed while being totally in the dark about both Templars and Alfar movements: MC does not even have a Ygdrasil map thast would track the movements on various factions in and out of various realms for him.
There are no feelings lost between him and his family, as MC was never privvy to their movements before.
MC resisting the succubus is totally random, as is MC picking up a fight in the smugglers territory or getting himself inbetween MEdb and a sword of peace - MC should hone his peace skills if he is to outrun Romeo and Juliet curse he has cursing through his heart rigth now after saving Finnabar from her own self-destroying fate, only for some unforseen outworldly event to snatch her from MC.
MC did not intergrate with either the templars or the Alfar - both factions made damn sure to keep MC out of their affairs.
I mean - they had a guy conversing with Nimue and wielding the Peace Maker Sword - yet they never integrated him in their plans - possibly because they wanted war all along - nobody seems to need the Peace Maker MC and his Pacifying sword.

Finnabair arc definitely changed the MCS perception especially when it comes to relationships and family. Will his feelings for his family change.

MC is not looking for more fights, antagonists or killings. If he had, then MC would have killed Fin himself to put the Alfar in their place.
Did you?

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

First....spoiler your damn post please.

Secondly, she is dead...D...E....A...D...she ain't coming back.

But you don't have a death certificate in triplicate, sealed, signed and rubberstamped by the Alfar, the Templars and Ceolag himself.

 

[minibaer12]

First....spoiler your damn post please.

Secondly, she is dead...D...E....A...D...she ain't coming back.

I never said otherwise!!! I just noted that the dev left a back door open and that it is up in the air whether he uses it or not. Nothing more.

 

[Maviarab]

I never said otherwise!!! I just noted that the dev left a back door open and that it is up in the air whether he uses it or not. Nothing more.

There is no back door open. Use whatever damn colour text you like to keep deluding yourself.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Question is how and who killed her. I have a theory but since I really have issues with the spoiler button rather keep my mouth shut not to offend anyone.

 

[Raziel_8]

wondering whether the Dev is pulling THE trump card that he himself built into the plot???

He (the Dev) has created a way to prevent Finnabair's death!!!

[edit] We don't know what the Dev had in mind or what the purpose of her death is, and we know even less how the story continues. We also don't know if the Dev intentionally had or had this possibility in mind. We'll see in the future.

I never said otherwise!!! I just noted that the dev left a back door open and that it is up in the air whether he uses it or not. Nothing more.

There is no trump card, nor a backdoor.
She's death, we are at her funeral, her body is there, which we can clearly see and her remains get burned viking style.
-The End-

The purpose of her death is quite clear, it's escalating the conflict with the templars.

 

[Dessolos]

I never said otherwise!!! I just noted that the dev left a back door open and that it is up in the air whether he uses it or not. Nothing more.

only way I see that being a possibility is if someone like Nimue or a goddess used some kind of magic to bring her back from the dead but don't even know if there is magic strong enough for that in this world. Even if there is I'd say it's like 0.01% chance of happening.

 

[Raziel_8]

only way I see that being a possibility is if someone like Nimue or a goddess used some kind of magic to bring her back from the dead but don't even know if there is magic strong enough for that in this world. Even if there is I'd say it's like 0.01% chance of happening.

I don't think Nimue can change things as she wants and there are limits/restrictions to her ability. She would the most op character in existence otherwise, also deus ex machina sucks imo, even if i really like Finn.
I think Mav posted some answer from Ceolag's discord some time ago, which made it pretty clear it's final.

 

[Maviarab]

Question is how and who killed her. I have a theory but since I really have issues with the spoiler button rather keep my mouth shut not to offend anyone.

Even though you have a huge spoiler in what you still wrote...

Also i think Mav posted some answer from Ceolag's discord some time ago, which made it pretty clear it's final.

Thanks. I did and it is. Like talking to a godamn wall at times on this site.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Even though you have a huge spoiler in what you still wrote...

??? What spoiler???

 

[Canto Forte]

She is a gate keeper along with her father. She likes to jump into death duels.
Couple those thoughts with the fact that bounty hunter killers - like the lady with the hat promissed MC to kill him for his sword - they know Nimue lives in Alfheimr and she makes swords with outworldly powers - even the demons knew that sword was imbued with outworldly powers - why do you think they used it to try and assassinate MedB? - you should know by now that all the realms we know of - nowhere, Alfheims, Midgard and the demons know of the powerful artefacts and of Nimue existing in Alfheimr - so we got literally countless factions and powers and bounty hunters and assassins who know how to get to the entrance and might also know either who is there - Fin - the hothead elf death dueller - or that they would welcome a battle with the elves - like the demons outright did in neverwhere.

Question is how and who killed her. I have a theory but since I really have issues with the spoiler button rather keep my mouth shut not to offend anyone.

The list of possible culprits is endless - starting with the hat lady who might have gottten trigger happy waiting on MC who kept extending his stay while she wanted to kill him and get the sword already.

I don't think Nimue can change things as she wants and there are limits/restrictions to her ability

The one established super power is: Nimue grabs MC from the moment in time they talk to her, or just asks Fin to come with - they all have boners bigger than MC when it comes to infatuations with Nimue - then she delivers her and MC back to Midgard, or simply gets her back to her mom a couple of days after the funeral

Nimue might not necessarily be a goddess per se - but as a nimph she has access to the power of the lake, that power is massive, like stargate levels of massive.

The story is about MC and his ways to navigate becoming a man: the wonky deliberately uncertain life he enjoyed until recently.

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[Adhdclassic]

She is a gate keeper along with her father. She likes to jump into death duels.
Couple those thoughts with the fact that bounty hunter killers - like the lady with the hat promissed MC to kill him for his sword - they know Nimue lives in Alfheimr and she makes swords with outworldly powers - even the demons knew that sword was imbued with outworldly powers - why do you think they used it to try and assassinate MedB? - you should know by now that all the realms we know of - nowhere, Alfheims, Midgard and the demons know of the powerful artefacts and of Nimue existing in Alfheimr - so we got literally countless factions and powers and bounty hunters and assassins who know how to get to the entrance and might also know either who is there - Fin - the hothead elf death dueller - or that they would welcome a battle with the elves - like the demons outright did in neverwhere.

The list of possible culprits is endless - starting with the hat lady who might have gottten trigger happy waiting on MC who kept extending his stay while she wanted to kill him and get the sword already.


The one established super power is: Nimue grabs MC from the moment in time they talk to her, or just asks Fin to come with - they all have boners bigger than MC when it comes to infatuations with Nimue - then she delivers her and MC back to Midgard, or simply gets her back to her mom a couple of days after the funeral

Nimue might not necessarily be a goddess per se - but as a nimph she has access to the power of the lake, that power is massive, like stargate levels of massive.

As far as Nimue think the most she might do is show him the event. But he can't intervene.

 

[Dessolos]

I don't think Nimue can change things as she wants and there are limits/restrictions to her ability. She would the most op character in existence otherwise, also deus ex machina sucks imo, even if i really like Finn.
I think Mav posted some answer from Ceolag's discord some time ago, which made it pretty clear it's final.

yeah I dont think so either but was more or less saying only if such magic existed only way I can see it happening.