VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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War Lizard

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At least the Templars didn't try to kill the MC instead of saying hello, like that bitch Finn.

Oh, my bad, I should be addressing her by her proper title: Dead Bitch Finn. :giggle:
Aw c'mon. A woman trying to kill you is mostly just flirtation. I'm very sad about it and hope to get revenge but at least she's a fond memory - unlike Honeytrap Kajia sucking dicks for info down in Neverwhere.
 
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yossa999

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Aw c'mon. A woman trying to kill you is mostly just flirtation. I'm very sad about it and hope to get revenge but at least she's a fond memory - unlike Honeytrap Kajia sucking dicks for info down in Neverwhere.
If her attempt to kill me is flirtation, then beheading her in a duel is an orgasm. Such a lewd game!

And I got the impression that it was rather the regulars of Neverwhere who sucked Kaija's dick for the right to provide her with information. For example, Chet Pussy immediately became nervous as soon as he saw her.

However, it doesn't matter, this is an adult game, everyone sucking dicks here, and you said this like it's something bad.
 

Rehwyn

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You mean the decisions that resulted in an attempt on their son's life
Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that having mercs called on the children of Templar Grandmasters is not the norm. Remember that until very recently, Hellspawn hadn't been encountered in a long time and the conflict with the Alfar had been at a low simmer, comparatively. So when MC's parents were making their decision, they likely had little reason to believe their children would face a threat of that nature.

I'm not saying they necessarily made the right decision, but I think a lot of people saying the parents should have known and prepared them are looking at it from the perspective of the current conflict which we see in the story and not what had occurred in the decades (or longer) leading up to it.

P.S. You might be thinking about how you can destroy the Templars, but the dev has said the MC will stay "neutral" so I doubt MC is thinking that destructively.
 
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AHA! So "she" is a man!
Those damn cheekbones and jawline can't fool me! I knew she had a dick from the moment I looked at her face! Bet you "her" Adam's Apple is prominent too!
Compared to you all women are men. Could you disappear somewhere before this gets weird?
 

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Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that having mercs called on the children of Templar Grandmasters is not the norm. Remember that until very recently, Hellspawn hadn't been encountered in a long time and the conflict with the Alfar had been at a low simmer, comparatively. So when MC's parents were making their decision, they likely had little reason to believe their children would face a threat of that nature.

I'm not saying they necessarily made the right decision, but I think a lot of people saying the parents should have known and prepared them are looking at it from the perspective of the current conflict which we see in the story and not what had occurred in the decades (or longer) leading up to it.

P.S. You might be thinking about how you can destroy the Templars, but the dev has said the MC will stay "neutral" so I doubt MC is thinking that destructively.
The Hellspawn and Alfar things might be new, but the Templars always have enemies - they talk about how understaffed they always are and how they can't deal with all of the threats because they don't have enough people. All of the Templars enemies will know who MC is but MC has no idea who they are, or even that they exist. That is not 'protecting him' that's leaving him in the wind.


AHA! So "she" is a man!

Those damn cheekbones and jawline can't fool me! I knew she had a dick from the moment I looked at her face! Bet you "her" Adam's Apple is prominent too!
Well, after months and months of debates and arguments, I'm glad that we've finally established that Kajia is a male prostitute.
 

Rehwyn

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The Hellspawn and Alfar things might be new, but the Templars always have enemies - they talk about how understaffed they always are and how they can't deal with all of the threats because they don't have enough people. All of the Templars enemies will know who MC is but MC has no idea who they are, or even that they exist. That is not 'protecting him' that's leaving him in the wind.
Even if there have always been threats, I hope we can agree that the recent events are a dramatic shift in terms of threat level from the circumstances leading up to it.

Again, not saying keeping him in the dark was the right decision, just that it's biased to only consider it from the position of the current state.
 
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Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that having mercs called on the children of Templar Grandmasters is not the norm. Remember that until very recently, Hellspawn hadn't been encountered in a long time and the conflict with the Alfar had been at a low simmer, comparatively. So when MC's parents were making their decision, they likely had little reason to believe their children would face a threat of that nature.

I'm not saying they necessarily made the right decision, but I think a lot of people saying the parents should have known and prepared them are looking at it from the perspective of the current conflict which we see in the story and not what had occurred in the decades (or longer) leading up to it.

P.S. You might be thinking about how you can destroy the Templars, but the dev has said the MC will stay "neutral" so I doubt MC is thinking that destructively.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the first part - as for the second, we'll see.

If it's actually written so that MC - finds out that everyone - his parents, his girlfriend, his boss etc have been hiding the truth from him his entire life - that everything he thought was true was a Templar lie, and then he leaves to a place where the Templars have no reach, starts a relationship with a woman (who is definitely not a Templar, or in league with them) and the Templars kill her and the MC is neutral toward the Templars after that - it does not bode well for the devs abilities as a writer.
 

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The Hellspawn and Alfar things might be new, but the Templars always have enemies - they talk about how understaffed they always are and how they can't deal with all of the threats because they don't have enough people. All of the Templars enemies will know who MC is but MC has no idea who they are, or even that they exist. That is not 'protecting him' that's leaving him in the wind.
That's the reason I don't believe in the story of keeping them in the dark and creating them out of the order for protection. Templars are basically a family bussiness and their numbers are filled by their descendents. The parents of Roland and Helga were templars. Roland promissed to the grandfather of Kaija taking care of her, which implies he was related to the order, too. Rarely someone is recruited from outside and it happens when one is able to find out the templars and their secret world by their own means and it could be a way of keeping them quiet. But it's rare. The rule basically is that new templars are daughters and sons of former templars and their numbers are dwindling. MC father isn't simply a templar, but the boss, and he more than any other should be worried about adding new members but Linnae says he resists to the idea of recruit them outside their families. So I don't believe he would deprive the order and compromise its future by preventing his children of becoming templars when generations of his family traditionally followed these steps. I don't see him as a free thinker or independent thinker to act otherwise. He is keeping MC out from the order by fear he will escape control as soon as he get in touch with supernatural and develop his abilities to the full extent.
 
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Knightcvel

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Yeah , and those fuckers are to blame of the length of my dingus, and the piss weather we have !
burn''em all !
(but not Statinator, he stinks better to drown him) :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Burning them was the way used by King Philip IV of France to get rid of them and it was effective. We have to abide for tradition and centuries-tested methods.
 

Pixillin'

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Burning them was the way used by King Philip IV of France to get rid of them and it was effective. We have to abide for tradition and centuries-tested methods.
Yeah, it’s too bad they didn’t wait until the late 18th century. The French were much more thorough and efficient by then.
 

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P.S. You might be thinking about how you can destroy the Templars, but the dev has said the MC will stay "neutral" so I doubt MC is thinking that destructively.
I think even following a neutral path it is unavoidable that there will be a struggle against a hidden faction inside the templars. I expect their headquarters will be a battleground among two groups. MC may side with the "official" one, of his parents or even try to prevent another conflict with the Elves that involves fighting against the rogue group. I foresee fighting templars in the future.
 
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Rehwyn

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I think even following a neutral path it is unavoidable that there will be a struggle against a hidden faction inside the templars. I expect their headquarters will be a battleground among two groups. MC may side with the "official" one, of his parents or even try to prevent another conflict with the Elves that involves fighting against the rogue group. I foresee fighting templars in the future.
Sure, I can see that as plausible or even likely. But purging a hidden faction from within the Templars is a very different thing from destroying the Templars. It's essentially the opposite.
 

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Sure, I can see that as plausible or even likely. But purging a hidden faction from within the Templars is a very different thing from destroying the Templars. It's essentially the opposite.
Sigh.....there you go with that pesky logic again.......
 
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Pixillin'

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Sure, I can see that as plausible or even likely. But purging a hidden faction from within the Templars is a very different thing from destroying the Templars. It's essentially the opposite.
I don't know about a hidden faction. I see the Templars as bad - just as an organization, even under their ideal "this is what the Templars should be" sort of mission statement, I consider them a net negative for humanity. There may be a hidden faction that is even worse, but that doesn't make the rest of the organization good.
 

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Well, no he has a point, it is bringing the Order back to it's originaly values.
Much better as the widespread "Sicario" logic of some.
A further point - which a lot of alfar lovers here fail to consider - is that the templars are probably the best safeguared for neverwhere and the alfar.

Medb says herself that they could never compete with all of humankind simply because of the numbers.

IF the templars fall and neverwhere becomes public knowledge, neverwhere would get swarmed by humans sooner or later. We would invade, colonize and breed like humans do.

At some point even the alfar territory could become affected.

Overall i feel like a lot of people here look at this conflict with way too much emotions involved (similar to the mc), at least if they want the mc to become someone making a difference and not staying a kid throwing tantrums.

I would argue even if you think the templars are the pure evil, its not smart to cut ties with them, it just restricts the mcs influence, knowledge and information as long as there is no hard choice to make.
 
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